projected 9800m GTX performance better than 8800m GTX SLi?

as nvidia doesn't have any specs for the 9800m GTX on their website, how is the expected performance numbers look like?

Will it be better as a single card than 2x 8800m GTX?

 

I am almost sure it won't be. IT won't be much better then a single 8800M GTX.

 

SLI 8800GTX will eat the crap out of the 9800GTX rofl! the difference would be a smaller die shrink, less heat, and 112 SP units. which isnt any kind of difference above 8800GTX unless some game comes out that a 96 Shader processing unit cant handle.. lol

 

Maybe the 9900M GTX will surpace or equal the 8800M GTX SLI, but not the 9800M GTX.

 

It's the same die, actually, still a G92. A 128SP G92 would much more powerfull. Look at the difference between the 96SP GTS and the 8800GTX. It will probably be the same difference than the 8800M GTS and the 8800M GTX

 

its not that huge difference JCMS, unless its a very shader intensive game , IE: Crysis

 

Logic says:

If 7950M < 8800M => we can say (logic) 8800M < 9800M

Simple an clear

But ist stronger that 8800m in SLi.....???

I dont think so

 

The past series haven't followed logics lol. The desktop 8800GTX is better than the 9800GTX. The 9800GTX will probably have 112 or 128shaders so it will be better.

 

We can safely(??) say that the following is false:

9800m GTX >>>>>>>>>>>> 8800m GTX,

The following is more likely(as compared to ^^):

9800m GTX>8800m GTX

 

Well, by your logic.

Since 8800M GTX > 7950M GTX SLI, therefore, 9800M GTX > 8800M GTX SLI

That said, I doubt the performance increase will be that much.

 

Okay I got it, but for real-world-performance sake:

2x 8800m GTX in SLi is still having problems, issues, with drivers and certain games, from what I read. People having lower FPS with SLi on, etc.

So it's safe to say that a single 9800m GTX is the best bet in the near future, right?

 

Sounds good. Assuming of course that it fits in the chassis of your choice and price range.

 

Of course I will be waiting for reviews, but as far as I know, there are a couple of laptops coming mid-July with the 9800m GTX.

There's the Edge from pcmicroworks 15" and the Qosmio X305 17" which particularly looks interesting. Especially the chassis design, I do hope they have a proper cooling system, unlike AW's m15x.

So that's why I was asking for 9800m GTX projected performance numbers..

 

Erm, Clevo has stated that the M860TU (edge) will not be released with the 9800M GTX. Not at launch anyway.

Pcmicroworks doesn't seem to have gotten the word though.

 

This G92 core isn't much more than an optimization for this series. Most of our mobile hardware had to use it because the original was too power sucking. So yeah, use a processor analogy. A Penryn is 5-10% faster (clock for clock) than a Conroe. So a good 10% improvement + whatever you get extra in clock speed.

It isn't going to surpass the 8800m GTX SLI. Not unless they almost double the clocks.

 

Yes I think the 9800m GTX will be default clocked at Core 600/1550/900 compared to 8800m GTX. But there is no way it would beat an 8800m GTX SLI setup. People stating they have less FPS than with SLI with the 8800m GTX has some serious issues. I have 8800m GTX SLI myself, sure there is microstuttering in some games, due to SLI not capable games, but SLI doesn´t decrease FPS.

It might in some games scale better with SLI, but it doesn´t make it worse, never seen that at all myself

 

I saw at some benchmarks the SLI(6,7 and 8 series) being worse than single card, but probably it was some driver issue and these bizarre situations probably don't get past some driver revisions

 

It's all in the drivers,which have gotten very good lately.
SLI is good , esecially in newer games,where it`s actualy close to doubling performance.

 

I have had zero problems with my 8800s in SLi.....well none that concerned games. A couple problems with Vista resuming from sleep mode....but games have been running beautifully.

I am surprised people are still talking about the 9800 since the GTX 280 is out now. Come on peoples. Lets start with the wild speculations about its future laptop performance!!! Hrm, there is probably a thread already started somewhere about it and I am the one that is slow.....

 

Actually, it could very well beat the 8800m GTX SLI depending on the game. Some games have horrible optimisation and arent a whole lot better than a single 8800m GTX.

the jump from 7950m GTX --> 8800m GTX was massive. the change to 9800m GTX will not be unless they included GTX 280 tech.

and the only reason the desktop 8800 GTX can beat the 9800 GTX at HIGHER res is because of the larger memory.

 

and that's where SLI shines compared to a single card anyway, higher res.

 

you guys are nuts.. now way in HELL a 9800GTX will outperform 8800GTX SLI! theya re the same technology, just a change from 96SP to 112. Which isnt any kind of a performance upgrade over 8800GTX!, and yes, the Jump from Single 7950GTX to 8800GTX is massive actually, since new tech is used and higher Clocks, but the Change from 7950GTX "SLI" to single 8800GTX isnt considered a jump at all, its just lower temps and better scaling with older games that dont know what SLI is. and in shader count, a single 7950GTX had whats equal of lets say 32SPs, With SLI enabled its able to match the 8800GTx's performance, now Imagine a card with 96 SPs in SLI, with the right driver, it'll DOUBLE the 9800GTX performance period.

and at many posters in this thread, we are in the second half of 2008. there is nothing such as games that doesnt scale with SLI, thank you very much.

 

There's a lot of speculation in this thread, and it is misleading.

The 9800M0-GTX is nothing different - it is the same card as the 8800M-GTX, with the only likely differences being higher clocks (and higher power consumption). Performance increases will be marginal at best. The Nvidia 9-series is nothing we have not already seen.