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    regret of buying high end notebook?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by PC_pulsar, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. PC_pulsar

    PC_pulsar Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello all,

    Those who bought a high end notebook (> €2000) have regret of it?

    I bought one about 2 years ago (core duo with go 7900gtx) and atm i was thinking about it. I loved the notebook these 2 years, but in those 2 years the whole notebook isnt worth much anymore. Now i am about to buy a desktop for less than €900. Now i'm still thinking if i will have regret or not, i would like to hear the opinions of everyone (especially those who bought an high end notebook :p )
     
  2. The Commodore

    The Commodore Notebook Consultant

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    Can't you upgrade a lot in that Clevo?

    I bought my Sager knowing I would be able to upgrade it if I wanted to. When 9800m GTX prices go down I might buy one.
     
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    joshthor 100% Crazy Sauce

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    i bought a mid range gaming laptop now i love it, but i kinda regret it. its really heavy and rips my backpack so im going to buy a eee pc for school, and im planning on building a desktop for gaming over the summer. if you have to go alot of places then i'd suggest getting the laptop, but if you are mostly getting it for home get a desktop, and keep your old laptop just as a secondary. you can buy a 5x more powerful desktop than a laptop with the same money.
     
  4. Levenly

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    i constantly move my rig, and over the last year it has served me well. and seeing how the ATI 3870's can fit in my notebook, i think it will serve just fine for more years to come once i can get ahold of them. and if the 4870's fit then even better.

    a desktop isn't suitable for me because i'm constantly moving my setup, and a netbook isn't worth getting as i couldn't really game on it.
     
  5. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    I regret because I don't play computer games anymore... I should have gotten a $1000 notebook rather than $1600
     
  6. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My laptop was 2440€ (60€ less than Sony recommends :D)

    Do I regrat it - no, I love it.

    Sony SZ - I don't play computer games, and the few I did play on it - well, Age of Empires, Anno 1701 and World in Conflict - they got boring very quickly.

    My SZ is a daily companion at university - and with photography a hobby I recently discovered photoshop and how powerful it is.

    It really depends what you want your laptop for - I wanted power & little weight - and I won't regret this decision for quite some time.
     
  7. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I have a semi high end gaming notebook. I do not regret it because its great for what I do (photoshop & video editing) but I admit I almost never game on it anymore.

    Thankfully it was not over $2000 Asus makes pretty fairly priced products. I do wish the screen was not so glossy though.
     
  8. Luthi3n

    Luthi3n Notebook Consultant

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    I just got mine about 2 months ago, but the reasons I decided on the OCZ Whitebook was because of the upgrades that could be done to it. Someone from RK Computers mentioned in the OCZ forum that the ATI 4870s are going to be compatible with the Whitebook and that seems to be the growing consensus among users too.
     
  9. Rahul

    Rahul Notebook Prophet

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    I regret purchasing my Vaio TZ as sadly, I have rarely taken it outside my home in the 11 months I've had it, not even to my college classes where many others have brought their 14"+ laptops. :(

    Now my next computer purchase in Jan/Feb will be a desktop or desktop replacement notebook, though it seems a desktop would be a better idea since I barely travel with my ultraportable TZ and you get a lot more gaming power with a desktop for less. But the portability of a notebook is always nice.

    My Vaio TZ is being useful here in India right now where I'm typing this. :)
     
  10. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Buy a desktop for gaming. You already have a decent notebook if you need something on the go.

    Its not like your gonna spend an extra $1500~ just so you can play hardcore games while on a plane.

    Much better and cheaper gaming on a desktop.
     
  11. sa17dk

    sa17dk Notebook Enthusiast

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    if you game at home for the majority of the time its almost always better to buy a decent laptop for general use, and using the money you would have spent on a gaming laptop and using it to build a desktop. not only do you save money initially and get better performance, but if you build a rig with upgrades in the future in mind, you save a lot of money in the long run as well.
     
  12. Johnksss

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    for me...it's more about being able to do anything i want to do and where ever i am to do it. be it on the plane, at the hotel, at the studio, at a friends, in the car or just at home. not to mention the difference in me encoding files from 20 to 30 minutes vs 10 hours or more. ill pass! no regrets here
     
  13. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    Moved from a €2000+ MacBook Pro to a €1000- (gaming) desktop and I haven't regretted it for a second.
     
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    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Highly significant keywords = Gaming @ MacBookPro
     
  15. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    you seriously dragging a d901c on a plane? also you have to fly first class to get enough space to boot the machine.
     
  16. Johnksss

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    no! im seriously "dragging" 3 laptops on a plane. but then...this is my line of work.
     
  17. nic.

    nic. Notebook Evangelist

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    Absolutely, I doubted it once (Like most people, the price) and move down to a mid range notebook (I've no desktop :cool: ) and it still did everything that I threw at but not as good and the experience is full of frustration :mad: . It runs hotter, same weight (I feel like a dumb when carrying a worse machine but its as heavy) and relatively poor build quality.

    Taking the advantage of Christmas, I gave myself a good reason (I know its lame :rolleyes: ) to replace that dumb machine. And partly thanks to NBR, this is a dangerous place, a place where you will learn about all the good stuff especially the review section and it.will.make.you.pay.the.money :D .
     
  18. Johnksss

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    there comes a time in ones life to forget about the budget and get exactly what you want.... you don't have to do it every day or every year...but at least once in your life time.....
     
  19. PC_pulsar

    PC_pulsar Notebook Evangelist

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    i never had trouble carrying it, i am still wondering why so many people complain about the weight of a notebook.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    just something else to speak on i guess. my notebook bag has wheels so who cares about weight. :D
     
  21. wobble987

    wobble987 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i think most people that regret purchasing a high end notebook is the one that expect everything can be done in a notebook, i think the worst offender here is a gaming notebook. it is just a compromise (usually to big and heavy, get hot or noisy). unless you do some LAN gaming to friends house or something.

    get a desktop for gaming, its got nicer screen and keyboard.

    keep in mind that price will always drop no matter what. so i think no matter what you buy today (concerning computer), it will usually gets heaps cheaper tommorow.

    then again, everyone is different, i suppose in the end you know if it is worth it or not, yourself.

    i personally get:
    17" MBP for stationary multimedia (music, internet)
    cutom Desktop for gaming
    13" macbook for portability use.

    i think that is the best compromise.
    say you get a laptop for everything, and the thing is broken and/or stolen, you lost your data or have a downtime at the very least. these days, if you rely on a computer for your day to day, it is good if you can have 2 or more computer.

    i think the only IT equipment i really regret getting was a PDA.
     
  22. eleron911

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    I had a high end Clevo and now a high end Dell.

    Have not regretted buying either one.
     
  23. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Once you carry 15kg you'll understand...

    If your laptop weighs 4kg, your case 4kg empty and then you add books and folders...

    Within reason weight doens't matter - that is within a few hundred gramms.
     
  24. Levenly

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    well another key thing to remember is, laptops use a small portion of the power of a desktop.

    with new gpu's coming out, and new mobile cpu's, laptops aren't really far off from most gaming desktops. hell, my notebook still rivals most people's gaming desktops unless they have upper end desktops.

    so the whole it gets outdated isn't really that true. think of it more as after a year, your notebook goes from high end to mid grade. i believe my gpu's are about 2 years old, and i still max new games.

    gaming is portable on a laptop. i can go into panera and play any game i desire. with a desktop you can't do that. i can also close my lid and move my rig much faster than anyone can with a desktop. 10 pounds isn't all that heavy, so weight really isn't a factor.

    i travel a lot, and i don't really like having my power constricted to my room. prior to a laptop, i had a small form factor PC because i moved it around a lot, but it became a hassle breaking down everything.
     
  25. kreidel

    kreidel Notebook Evangelist

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    I completely disagree with that statement. Maybe in the future things will even out but mobile power doesn't touch desktop power. And you can't match performance money wise either.
     
  26. rapion125

    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

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    If I'm going somewhere on vacation for a week, I can't bring my desktop. But I can bring my gaming laptop, plug it in at the hotel, and game on.
     
  27. Deathwinger

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    I do not regret purchasing my m860tu, power and portability in one. Its what I game on and work on and thus I bought a laptop to suit those needs.

    From what I'm seeing here, many people who regretted the purchase seemed to think that, at the time, a desktop replacement would be the cool thing to have, and such, an impulse buy.

    Most individuals regret an impulse buy because at the time, their emotions over logic dictated the purchase.

    In future, one should weigh their wants and their needs and find a middle ground to appease both.
     
  28. PC_pulsar

    PC_pulsar Notebook Evangelist

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    when i bought my notebook i think the 8800gtx was about to come out. But it wasnt for sale yet. The fastest gpu at that moment was a 7900gx2. Then the fastest card was a 7900gtx which isnt that different at all with my go 7900gtx (5/6 of the performance i guess?). So i bought it at a pretty darn good moment :)
     
  29. chonga

    chonga Notebook Deity

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    Never bought a high end notebook but for those of you contemplating what way to go, I had a gaming desktop in college and found a thinkpad t40 for $300 on cragislist. The desktop was $900 (in my sig) about a year and a half to two years ago. So for about $1200 total I got a superb gaming desktop, and a wonderful laptop for daily use in the classroom and library.

    Still use both today, the laptop is fast enough for web surfing, movie watching, music playing, and pretty much anything else besides gaming and when i want to play a game, i'll fire up the desktop and go to town. Much better for me to game on a 22" monitor with 5.1 sound with maxed out settings.
     
  30. Huskerz85

    Huskerz85 Notebook Evangelist

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    That's pretty much the reason why I changed my decision from a good midrange do-it-all machine to something near/at the head of the pack (same specs.....only $26.75 more!). With as much as I stay 'connected', I'd like to be able to harness the power of my desktop in a portable package.

    If you go high enough, more often than not you can avoid the "could've/should've/would've" that comes along when you buy something cheaper and discover some of the limitations/drawbacks.
     
  31. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I also wonder - I think its the gaming people who seem unsure - I haven't seen a business laptop in here (or have I overlooked something??).
     
  32. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Well the topic is high end notebook, that term sort of means a gaming notebook as they have the most ram, high end gpu's, and faster cpu's.

    Even the "high" end business machines do not compete spec wise, they just usually pick up more points in cosmetics by being smaller/lighter, leather, ect.

    Id rather have a semi bulky high end gaming machine like the G50VT for $1600 than a high end business machine thats only a bit smaller for $1600 with only half the specs.

    I have no problems breaking out the G50 at a business meeting :p but I almost always use my EEE 1000H instead. I love that little guy.
     
  33. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Are you sure on the specs?
    I'd say my SZ only really "looses out" on the graphics card.

    At least my T9300 processor is quite strong :D
     
  34. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    i think the regret part going to be that way comes after you see desktop gaming machines that easily surpass your gaming/higher end laptop for less money

    but its always going to be that way
    your paying for portability to some degree, hense the higher cost

    same as people buying the best video card on the market
    only to see 6 months or less later, there ALWAYS will be a better one *l*
     
  35. kal360

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    well ive only had my laptop for 5 months or so, but i paid premium price for mine, and i think it will age well, since formats arent gunna change from blu ray any time soon, the 8800m gtx will be able to play games on medium in 2 years and i aint really looking to jump onto windows 7....
     
  36. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Windows 7 may give you better performance ;) (if you use Vista that is)
     
  37. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    if windows 7 uses less memory and better drivers for hardware,(i heard that it will next year)
    you will jump on board and so will others as the news spreads

    if your happy with your laptop,thats great, some people are content with there's and the rest just want the best, and to get the best will always empty your wallet *l*
     
  38. motherpuncher22

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    my only regret is that i think i should have bought a desktop for my gaming and spent less money on a laptop to take to school other wise i really enjoy having the high end type laptop.
     
  39. greyfox882002

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    the best way really is to buy a high end desktop for gaming and have a separate laptop for work/school. The price and lack of upgrades for "gaming" laptops are outrageous.
     
  40. AznImports602

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    I kind of regret getting my MSI here for $1500 because it had its moments in gaming with me and im still using it today. I just think I over paid for what I got and a couple months later the dual core models came out.

    Im still in college and im probably going to get a new computer next year, but can't decide whether I should get a laptop or a desktop, because I like mobile gaming but it is so much cheaper to config a desktop....
     
  41. deadsoulaxix

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    u can build a great gaming computer for just under a $1000
    you cant get a gaming laptop for under that really thats good.

    $2000 minimum for a 'half decent' gaming laptop by 2009.
    if paying double for portability seems fair to u, then get a laptop.

    if not,then seriously think about your next machine.
     
  42. illmatic8

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    OP, sooo true...I got my notebook for $989 after everything (including a $500 HP coupon so it was really more expensive than what I paid for)

    But not too long ago I got my brother a pretty standard notebook from Circuit City for $399 (was on sale) and I reformatted that bad boy and installed a fresh Windows, and it ran good just like my expensive one did.

    I feel pretty stupid spending that extra money now, the only time I can warrant spending the extra money is on a MacBook
     
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    I haven't regretted buying any of my gaming notebooks yet...simply because I have been mobile and it makes it easy for me to be able to bring my computer with me. However, I think next purchase I make in the next couple of years...it will be a full-blown desktop computer and a small netbook type computer which I will use for mobility.
     
  44. Johnksss

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    say chaz, if you reading...should this thread be changed to high end desktop replacement instead of notebook? im thinking to many people are focusing on the notebook part of it. high end laptops can play all the games and play about 90+ percent on maxed out. (speculation on your definition of high end) and most of the desktops are not playing every game out on maxed out. i can name 3 off the top of my head(gta4/crysis original/crysis warhead) that aren't doing that. the top two high end laptops can play these games at 1680x1050@high fine, with the exception of gta4 which has issues. you pay the extra premium for portability and power. not how small and cute it might look.
    laptops/notebooks/desktop replacements are for people on the go. you cant go downing the next person because they chose to spend more or buy different than your personal opinion. usually most people start to regret when they get other folks in their ear telling them they spent to much and the 50 reasons on why they wouldn't spend that kind of money.... people who buy high end, know just what that means. and it's not always about how much you spend....but what you got for your money....

    technology is always changing so one will never ever be really....ahead of the game....
     
  45. deadsoulaxix

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    QFT. your never ahead, thats how they snag your wallet every year :rolleyes:
     
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    yep! exactly! well they got mine this year....while last year i bought 3 laptops totaling the price of this one. which beats all 3 of them put together.... :D
     
  47. Pommie

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    I wanted a powerful machine that could play all my games, plus be portable (I move around the country heaps). A desktop was never going to cut it. I did the sums, with salary sacrificing, plus tax rebate, plus the amount I could sell it for in 1 - 2 years it was a no brainer decision.

    Yes you pay alot for a top of the line gaming laptop, but this machine still runs all the games I throw at it very well, and most likely will for another year. When the next gen GPU configs are released, I'll most likely sell this, and do the same again. I'd lose more money buying a "cheaper" gaming desktop and having the thing go out of date, then upgrading the components. Anyone thought about this?

    I think you'd be nuts to buy a big machine like my XPS and lug that around school/university all day! I'd just pickup a cheap netbook and use that for classroom activities, then have the gaming laptop back in the room.

    Just my opinions anyway!
     
  48. deadsoulaxix

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    you shouldnt have to have top of the line gaming computer or laptop for that matter ,JUST to play the latest games smoothly. by smooth i guess i meant locked at highest settings/60fps.

    but thats life ,the industry forces you to shell out thousands just to get that experience and i for one .............................think its retarded.
     
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    the price you pay or don't pay to play....
    sort of like gas prices...shake your fist at how high it rises, but if you want to drive...you will buy. (now how much you buy is of a nother matter :D)
     
  50. deadsoulaxix

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    i know thats how the market works but i think it backfired on them in some ways ...sure you pay to play , be it on PC ,console or whichever

    but still, games in general should be built with 3 sets of textures,mapping,shaders,etc etc.

    then you pick the set that best suits your machine, that way you get a better game experience and developers make more from higher sales, thats all i really meant, but what do i know *l*
     
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