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    regret of buying high end notebook?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by PC_pulsar, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. Johnksss

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    off topic:

    they do deadsoulaxix, but it's just not the 3 layers we like...*LOL*

    very high/high/medium/low. very very rough example

    but i do completely understand what your talking about...
     
  2. deathstick

    deathstick Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree with johnksss, the question produces more answers that focus on the notebook part rather than gaming.

    Hmm... I bought the laptop out of necessity but didn't have the extra cash to spring for a laptop AND a desktop (much less a gaming desktop), so I opted for a gaming laptop. It has served me well for both functions (gaming + general-use laptop) for the past 1 1/2 years, and will probably last me another year before it will have to be retired from gaming.
    So do I regret the purchase? Not at all. :D It will be useful to me for about 4-5 years; 2 1/2 of those years it will be useful as a gaming computer. At around Windows 7 SP1 time, I will buy a desktop rig for gaming, and at the 4-5 year mark I will finally replace notebook for a younger, sexier model. ;)
     
  3. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    back on topic *l*

    windows 7 SP1 will be out before dec 2010 ill bet ,
    no regrets really in any of my computers and laptops i have bought in the past years

    but really, all these dx10 cards now wont last very long (which i knew they wouldnt,just as the dx9 are old news now)

    dx11 is coming, what a trap kinda.
     
  4. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    that is not true 1.35 k minimum for an high end laptop you must be looking at alienware now and days with 2k you can make a pretty powerful machine
     
  5. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    sorry, i was drinking rum and pepsi when i posted that , u got me there :eek:
    2k can buy u a awesome desktop machine but not a laptop with the same (gaming) speeds, thats all.
     
  6. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    Unless you specifically plan to play games away from your desk, a gaming desktop + netbook is cheaper than a gaming desktop. Even a $400 14" notebook with integrated graphics and a powerful enough CPU will get the job done for media encoding. $300 netbook (Buying after I sell my Vostro) + my $800 desktop = $1,100 total for a notebook + adesktop that does what only SLI 9800M GTX's beat.

    Summary: Unless you need to game on the road, desktop + netbook or $400 14" is the way to go, and is the way the market is trending.
     
  7. miro_gt

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    I paid 1,600 usd for mine an year ago, and have upgraded the RAM and the HDD since then.

    I'm pretty happy with my laptop, and don't plan on changing it for the next like 3 years :)

    eventually, I'll put a nice SSD on it and that's about it as far as upgrades go
     
  8. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    I disagree here, most want gaming laptops to play games at work/school instead of working at what there suppose to be doing*l* thats the plan i had :p
     
  9. Jlbrightbill

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    As someone who played many games in many classes, nothing you can run in a class and get away with it is demanding enough to require a dedicated video card.

    While there is a place for a high performance notebook among some people, once I actually built a desktop, I realized what I was missing.
     
  10. Johnksss

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    i have both. im still not giving up my "performance laptop/desktop replacement/notebook. :) :D
    off topic:
    just waiting to see the performance of the new gtx295's against the hd 4870x2's...might be time for an upgrade.. or a switch..who knows.
     
  11. deadsoulaxix

    deadsoulaxix Notebook Consultant

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    getting fished into buying better and better, just as i am every year :(

    all in hopes of running software better and faster
     

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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Depends, like I said I do not play any games on my G50V anymore, just no time, but that goes the same for my really high end desktop too.

    Sure my desktop can play any game out 1920x1080 maxed settings and look really great, but when I was on the go I had no problems playing those same games at 1280x800 medium settings.

    Games like Crysis, CoD4, ect. If I had not got a "gaming" notebook there is no way I could have played those. I get stuck as a stay over at work now and then so I sleep at the hotel. Its nice to be able to play a game to kill the time.

    I do not think you lose anything, just because you cant play it at the same settings, being able to play the game at all, as long as its at a good frame rate is all that matters. Gameplay > Graphics being able to play the game obviously falls under gameplay.

    If you are at home every day and have time to play games. Sure a desktop makes sense. However others travel often, or are away from home for extended amounts of time, for those people a gaming notebook does make sense.
     
  13. Jlbrightbill

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    Definitely, that group falls under the "some people" heading. I think a large portion of the gaming notebook crowd however are teens, college students, and early 20 somethings who won't need mobile power so it's the worst of both worlds for them.
     
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    crash NBR Assassin

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    I haven't read through the whole thread, so I hope I'm not repeating what everybody has said so far...

    While I did not spend an astronomical amount for my laptop 1.5 years ago, I do regret spending so much on it. I was going to college and wanted to get something I could game on and would be portable enough to carry around. I settled on the Dell Inspiron 1520.

    95% of the time I use my laptop I use it on my desk and don't move it. The few times a month I want to take it somewhere, I'm always reminded that it's just a little too big and heavy to be lugging around all the time with my other school stuff (I bike to and from campus a lot).

    In hindsight, it would have been much smarter to buy a smaller laptop that was portable and wouldn't be a burden to carry around and build my own desktop that I could keep on my desk all the time. I'm currently saving up for a desktop so I can do just that. I don't think I'll be replacing my laptop anytime soon, but I'd like to. Hopefully I can win the lottery or something :p
     
  15. fred2028

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    My laptop plays games very well (beyond my expectations) and I do not regret getting it. I regret getting it so early, since there are laptops with 9800m's now, but that's technology. Don't think I'll get another gaming laptop after this, since I'll go with the desktop option and have a light laptop on the side.

    My laptop was $1,049 CAD + 13% tax. A bit over my $999 before tax budget, but worth it IMO. Got it July 21 this year.
     
  16. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    Well then again there is refurb gateway 7811. For $700 you can not really do much even at desktop space. The max 3dmark06 you would get is around 16K. This laptop gets 10K with alittle bit overclocking. The performance/price ratio between desktops and laptops is closing everyday.
     
  17. Jlbrightbill

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    Well, from what I'm reading an overclocked Core i7 965 + GTX 295 can pull in close to 30k in 3dMark06, if we're talking high end of each
     
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    yeah, didn't see that score on there jlbrightbill. where might that be??
     
  19. Jlbrightbill

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    xtremesystems, GTX 295 benches are slowly trickling in.
     
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    Buzz around the net is that preliminary benchmarks are NVidia tossing home run derby balls at the card -- They only let them benchmark 5 games and NVidia picked each game out, reviews weren't allowed to talk about temperatures, power usage, or noise levels either. I'll wait until a respectable review site gets it without NVidia's restrictions.
     
  22. Johnksss

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    read about that part as well.
     
  23. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    I do to a certain extent. I rarely play games on my computer anymore. The last game I bought was The Orange Box, and I still haven't finished any of the games. I sacrificed portability to get power, too. What's more upsetting is how modern games (like Crysis) will barely run on it now at medium settings, and it's only two years old. I've switched all my gaming to my PS3 now.

    But on the other hand, it has provided me two and half years of very solid performance in all other areas, including lots of MATLAB programming and 3D modeling, and that's really what I needed it for, so I can't complain too much. In hindsight, I probably should have gotten a 15" midrange laptop with a decent CAD GPU, but I'm pretty happy with my M90 + MacBook combo right now. Plus, having this high end computer has had tons of benefits... it still runs Vista like a champ, though it came out long before Vista did, it has tons of ports (6 USB, Firewire, ExpressCard, dual-link DVI, etc), and has provided a level of performance that will last until I finish grad school; that's exactly what I bought it for.

    So yeah, I regret it in a way, but I've got the MacBook now for portability, and the combo has been great. Had I not bought the MacBook, my regret would probably be higher. Now that I live off campus, I take a laptop to school every day, and the Dell is simply too large for that. But it's serving it's true purpose now as a portable desktop, and I would say my fondness for it has grown since it has slid into this role.
     
  24. BX_TECH_GOD

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    Ive been using gaming laptops all my life until I finally decided to build a desktop for myself this year. My desktop is now dedicated to playing games but I do alot of other tasks on it as well. I watch blu-rays on it, I watch tv on it, I listen to music on it, I compose music on it, I use it to film score, I edit pictures on it, I convert and edit videos on it, etc. When I realized in the past when I bought my high end gaming Laptops that I kept them home 95% of the time I figured I'd be better off building a desktop for gaming. The one thing that I did love on my gaming laptops was the 17" 1920x1200 LCD screen. I don't think I could use anything smaller especially for what I do.

    So I decided to get me a Laptop with gaming being the last chore in mind. I appreciate my desktop more bcuz I have a much better upgrade path with it then I ever did with my laptops. But now that I have my M70 I dont regret paying $1699 for it ($1799-$100 rebate) bcuz I use it for all my multimedia tasks as well as music production purposes. And for tasks like that it will never get outdated. My desktop has a 24" 1920x1200 LCD and I can still maintain the same resolution on my laptop and not miss a thing. All in all my suggestion is to get a Gaming desktop for home and a mid-range Laptop for on the go. Until Gaming laptops provide a better upgrade path for their GPUs its not worth it to me anymore. Besides does anyone do anything else productive with their laptops besides gaming?
     
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    i do everything you just mentioned plus use it to fix hard drives and other computers...gaming is actually the last thing on the list for me. you know...when i need a break from working on some form of a project... :)
     
  26. deathstick

    deathstick Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, no. I'm also studying mechanical engineering, and our 3d modeling software require at least a mid-range computer. I didn't mention that before as it was somewhat irrelevant. :)
     
  27. Dreidel

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    I regret it. I am studying computer Engineering so I knew I would need a laptop. I also figured I would want to play computer games for the next 4 to 5 years of college. I bought the Sager in my signature.

    I now realize that I don't have time nor care as much for computer games as I once did. Don't get me wrong - I love computer games. But I am finding that less and less games are appealing to me and it is becoming quite hard to find a game I like.

    A 17" Laptop Brick is proving to be quite incapable of any serious mobility. I only take it around campus when I KNOW I will need it. But, when I don't know, I leave it. Then it might turn out I need it and I am out of luck. The thing is, it weighs 10 pounds and when I have books to carry, it becomes very bothersome. Also, other people are able to use theirs in classes. I cannot. Sometimes I want it out to do online homework and stuff, but I am out of luck.

    I guess I should have purchased the 15" Sager model with the 9600m GT. It runs around $1200. It's cheaper and lighter. And it would have served me well for the light amount of gaming I am doing.

    So, the moral of the story is: If your laptop is for school, buy it for school. If it's for games, buy it for games.

    Edit: One thing I didn't add is that I am very happy with the performance. The 9600m GT would not last me nearly as long as the laptop I have now, thus, saving me money.
     
  28. icon007

    icon007 Notebook Evangelist

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    look, it is like everything else in life. no matter what you buy now, it will always slowly get out performed by newer stuff. that is why when someone say if you buy a boat, you better love it to death because it looses its value as soon as you sign the line.
     
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    hey, look on the bright side, if you buy a boat, you can always use your lappy for an anchor................
     
  30. Johnksss

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    yeah. a anchor at the girlfriends house, home or at the dorm while you run off with a 400 dollar netbook to class.
     
  31. link1313

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    Don't regret it at all. I get 2+ hours of battery life and the 15.4" form factor makes it easy to use on my lap during class. Take it home, place it on the cooler and you are good to game. Its really quite brilliant actually.
     
  32. Jlbrightbill

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    The thing about 3D modeling is that you don't need a high end GPU for that, a mid-range GPU and high end CPU will benefit you more. High end GPUs are where all the money goes into notebooks, you can get a solid CPU in a very reasonably priced system.
     
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    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

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    High end GPUs don't mean high price. The Asus G50VT-X1 has a 9800M GS for $999. It's pretty good considering the 9800M GTX is in laptops over $2000.
     
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    I can't say I regret it, it was $1800 and thats a big chunk of change. I've had it for about a month now and used it about twice. Went to visit my grandparents in-laws and it was great for the hotel ahah almost worth the money and I'm gonna love it even more at my parents house this weekend. When I go to guam for the 4 month next year to play wow with the wife and friends I'm sure its going to be a worthy investment but I'm sure I could have got away with a cheaper laptop but I play other shooers like bf2 crysis and i wanted something that would last a few years. But when I'm at home I play on my desktop, more comfortable and a better keyboard.
     
  35. Jlbrightbill

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    The issue though is price compared to what you could get in a desktop, if you don't need mobile gaming power. I'm not at all disparaging or saying nobody should buy high end notebooks if needed, I'm just saying that the majority of these notebooks weigh in at 6-7 pounds and at a minimum of a 15" display it's hardly portable for general computing.

    As many others have said, their gaming notebooks stay on their desk 90% of the time. With that same money you could build a gaming desktop and buy a netbook.
     
  36. cha

    cha Notebook Deity

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    No regrets here whatsoever.

    I use my laptop all day at work on battery. Game with it at home while charging. Been 6 months since purchase ;)
     
  37. Aeris

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    I have no regrets for having spent $4,800 on my Sager NP9262, really, absolutely no regrets, it has worked fine so far and it satisfies my gaming needs (current), while also having some portability and the battery is just a really great plus.

    I purchased it back in July 2008, and it is still really awesome! :) Especially when I boost the 8800m GTX's clocks up to 650 MHz Core / 1,650 MHz Shader / 1,020 MHz Memory, then that is awesome!

    I have no regrets on getting "outdated" quickly, as I am currently working on building a really powerful Desktop PC (signature link) and will enjoy the performance for quite some time, that is until that I have to upgrade again!

    So, purchasing a Gaming Notebook is not bad, if that is what you really want and need, and if it will fit your needs, a lot of intensive research is required to know what you really want.
     
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