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    skyrim and d3 failing on 12.7

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by esca, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. esca

    esca Notebook Guru

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    So last night I went to the amd website and dl'd 12.7beta from them overtook of 12.6 which I already had, now Skyrim on steam crashes after 5 min. And diablo3 glitches constantly. Was I spose to driver sweep 12.6 or not? I figures since I was from amds website 12.7 would run its proper overlay ontop of 12.6. Was I wrong to think like this? And would I have to do a clean sweep of both and reinstall 12.7beta?
     
  2. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    No errors in those games here, works perfectly.
    Yeah you need to remove drivers and caps, then driver sweep them in safe mode, and install 12.7 along with 12.7 cap1 beta.
     
  3. esca

    esca Notebook Guru

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    Damit. Lol. That's what I was afraid of. Dam me trying to take the ez way out. Thanks for the quick reply. It's much appreciated.
     
  4. Zymphad

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    You don't need to driver sweep. The AMD uninstaller is thorough, it only leaves behind your settings that you created, such profiles behind. In fact for many who have switchable graphics etc, the sweeper will actually remove too much. Removes what it shouldn't and then makes installing drivers difficult. Even Leshcat, who modded drivers for switchables has stated this, someone who seems to know the ins and outs of these AMD drivers for mobile better than anyone other than AMD staff.
     
  5. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Have you tried this driver? And yes, a clean install would be recommended, since this is a modded driver.
     
  6. esca

    esca Notebook Guru

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    Hmm. So your saying I should technically be fine with the drivers then. Maybe its just a steam and d3 lag thing? I run a constant 100 fps or better on d3 and a constant 60 or better on Skyrim. It's just that d3 so glitchy and Skyrim crashes quick. Not sure what's up then. Any suggestions?
     
  7. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Have you already patched Skyrim to the latest version?
     
  8. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    You know you could always give it a go, I mean with driver sweeper method.
    There's not a specific rule that works all the time for everyone, it's just worth a try and doesn't take much time, just a step more.
    Give it a go if you want and try to see if you get your problems sorted.
     
  9. esca

    esca Notebook Guru

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    Prasad, I think its the latest version. I just dl'd it on my new comp last Saturday but ill see off it lets me update to night after work. And i will mess with a couple things amd if it doesn't work ill do the driver sweep method. Ps. This forum rocks. U guys r always helpful and thorough. Thanks much.
     
  10. lentus

    lentus Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a noobie question.
    I have just gotten my clevo p150em upgraded to a 7970m, and this is my first AMD gfx card ever, so I'm kinda unfamiliar with how things work.

    So my problem:
    Skyrim runs on the Intel HD 4000 rather than the 7970m, the options don't even see the Radeon.
    Diablo III works fine, but haven't tried any other games yet.

    I downloaded Skyrim from steam with the latest patches.
    Also i'm running the Clevo drivers with the 12.7 gfx driver overwritten. I also have the CAP1. Skyrim and steam is set to Highest Performance.

    Any ideas on how to get it working?
     
  11. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    In the Switchable Graphics section of CCC (Catalyst Control Center), allow Skyrim to be forced to run on the 7970M.
     
  12. lentus

    lentus Notebook Enthusiast

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    how do i do that? all i seem to be able to do is set High Performance (red) or Energy Efficient (green) from 3 last applications launched, and to manually browse a program on my hdd.
     
  13. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    You can individually configure which GPU each application works under.. There is a force dedicated GPU option for the individual application selections. If your gmae isn't under there, add it manually and configure it as such.
     
  14. moviemarketing

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    I'm still on 12.6, but I stopped doing driver sweeps quite some time ago. I think it might have been the 10.1 version of Catalyst, one of those versions around a year or two ago that incorporated an update system so you no longer needed to use third party driver cleaner/sweeper applications to remove the old drivers. Since that time I've never had to do it again.
     
  15. lentus

    lentus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you sure this option is available with the Clevo CCC version?
    I can't seem to find it anywhere.
     
  16. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Yes. CCC is an AMD application and is uniform, atleast as far as Enduro is concerned. If you still can't find it, I'll upload some screenshots later..
     
  17. lentus

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    I would appreciate it. I think i looked everywhere, and can't find it.
     
  18. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    same for mine :p
     
  19. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Here you go, guys...

    You can open AMD CCC as shown below.
    [​IMG]

    Ensure you've enabled "Advanced View" from the "Preferences" menu.
    [​IMG]

    Under "PowerPlay Settings", you can configure as such.
    [​IMG]

    Under "Switchable Graphics", you can click the buttons on the right, selecting "High Performance" for individual applications to enable the use of the discrete GPU. You can also browse and add applications and configure how they are used.
    [​IMG]

    Finally, from the Windows Power settings, click "Change Advanced Power Settings" and configure as such. The 4 options shown here would work as follows: Force IGPU, prefer IGPU, prefer DGPU, force DGPU, respectively. Select "Maximize Performance" to force use of the AMD GPU.
    [​IMG]


    NOTE: I'm using the 12.7 Beta (June 26) MODDED Driver.

    Cheers!


    -Prasad.
     
  20. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    oh yeah i already did those i guess ur explainations confused me lol. but anyway +rep for u!

    btw, what are you getting for battery life? my envy isnt getting very high idk why
     
  21. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    I've barely taken my laptop off my desk, so I wouldn't know. The last time I used the notebook on battery, Windows reported 6 hours or so of battery life on "High Performance". I watched a 2 hour long movie, and the battery was ~70% remaining, if I remember correctly.

    By the way, did you do the last step from the Windows Power options? That would FORCE the DGPU, as was requested.
     
  22. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    haha i can get dgpu working but idk how to turn it on while on battery... im getting max like 3 hrs... just browsing
     
  23. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    You'd configure it the same way I've shown in the screenshots, the only difference being you'd configure it for "On Battery" instead of "Plugged in", and for the respective Power Plan being used by Windows. The changes in Power settings should also reflect in CCC. And remember, the DGPU performance on battery can never match that on AC.
     
  24. PaKii94

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    crap i meant turn off on battery haha. but i think its just me being an idiot. i was running the battery eater test and im getting normal results
     
  25. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Once you get familiarized with all the settings over time, you shouldn't have any such issues. :)
     
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    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    it is prolyl just this stupid high powered display with my battery haha
     
  27. lentus

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    thanks for the screenshots Prasad, but unfortunately it didn't help my case...
    supposedly this is a known issue for some 7970m users.
    i'll try to fnd the link where it is described.

    either way, thanks a lot and +1rep for you!
     
  28. lentus

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    This might be related, might not be. What DPI Scaling have you set Windows to? And are you using your native screen resolution?
     
  30. lentus

    lentus Notebook Enthusiast

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    100%, and the Windows XP scaling is checked.

    Yes, native fullhd resolution.
     
  31. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    You're not on Windows 7? Try 125% and try assessing your problems again, after a restart. I had a similar issue on 100%...
     
  32. lentus

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    there's an option which is called Windows XP style scaling - i have it checked.
    i am on Windows 7.

    i'll try 125%, and report back.
     
  33. lentus

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    it's weird, when i changed the scaling to 125% the programs i have set to High Performance are displayed in a lower resolution (not native), even tho windows 7 is set to native fullHD.
    But the Skyrim problem still persists, it only sees the HD 4000.
    EDIT: Just checked Diablo 3 - now Diablo is running on the HD 4000 too.
     
  34. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Seems like a roadblock here. Let me try a thing or two or two, and get back. In the mean time, try the Windows power settings I mentioned earlier, if you haven't already.
     
  35. Zymphad

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    Skyrim ran beautifully for me on 12.7
     
  36. lentus

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    Hmm under Switchable Dynamic Graphics i only have two options:
    Automatic GPU Selection (my translation from a foreign Windows 7)
    Force Power Savings

    I don't even have the options you have in your screenshot:
    Imageshack - 82129353.jpg
     
  37. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Well, then it might be an Alienware thing. Did you add the Skyrim executable in CCC and enable it for "High Performance" yet?
     
  38. lentus

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    Yea, first thing I did...
     
  39. esca

    esca Notebook Guru

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    I don't get it. Skyrim doesn't crash now but all my bars r messed up. The health bar doesn't change as I attack. The magic and stamina bars don't lower as I use them, they stay the same length and just move outside the frame. And all the way points on my compass extend all the way across the screen instead of in the confines of the compass.

    On a side note. My diablo 3 problem is being felt by a lot of ppl so I don't think its a problem on my side. Micro stuttering seems to be running rampant, so at least I'm not alone. I've fryed every fix in the world for the stuttering problem and nothing. I'm 100% sure its on blizzard now. Just sux I have a $2250 computer and the 2 games I want to play r messing up. Just my Luck. Might have to dl some other games till patches come.
     
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    try unparking your CPU cores. This helped my microstutters in some games
     
  41. lentus

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    try this:
    New Stuttering Workaround! - Forums - Diablo III
     
  42. SlickDude80

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    ya this works.

    Just an FYI...you get microstutters in D3 because of the way the game always loads content on the fly.

    So your harddrive plays a big role in this. This has nothing to do with the vid card or vid card drivers...

    you want to make this better? install the game on a SSD.

    EDIT: and just a note to OP, i'm running the official 12.7 beta and both of these games run flawlessly
     
  43. esca

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    yeah, i've tryed the processor fix, didnt work. tryed moving d3 to my SSD and didnt help either. gettin angry at some of this stuff. im tryin that last help link to see if it works. but my expectations r low.
     
  44. esca

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    well. throw another attempt on the fire. the new stuttering fix did nothing. still angry.
     
  45. esca

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    Well, for the 3rd time, i ran driver sweeper and reverted back to 12.6 and skyrim seems to be fine, now if blizz would get off their asses and fix the micro stuttering of D3 i'd be a happy man.
     
  46. lentus

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    do you have vsync on?