underclocked gtx 260m vs gts 250m

basically how does the graphics performance of the gts 250m compare to that of an undeerclocked gtx 260m? (its from the G51vx)

what are pros and cons of each the 250m is stock and maybe OC, whereas the 260m in underclocked. so which is better are the equal, whats temps like/power consumption?

thanks!

 

If you want to know which has the best performance per watt between both, then we could fairly affirm that the GTS 250M wins. Best idle comsumption and probably very low full load temps due to the 40nm. Not to mention there should be room to do a pretty decent OCing.

Now, there's a bench for the GTS 250M on notebookcheck. Don't know if it's reliable. The rig got a 720QM...so the GTS 250M should score just 8k with a high-end dual core.

3DMark 06:
0% 100%
min: 8310, avg: 8310, max: 8310 Points ...
720QM 6144 MB 8310

 

i just want to know performance in general

 

There's a new G51J comming out soon.. with core i7 processors and GTX260M.. i'm quite sure it would own an i7 laptop with GTS250M... 128bit bus kills the GTS250M.. it would be a great card if it had a 256 bit bus..

 

the 260m in the G51j is just as underclocked as it was in th previous G51 models. My G51VX-X1A actually gets a better score stock with 186.81 WHQL than the G51J wth teh i7 720QM

 

how would the g51j compare to the MSI GT640, or GT740 with the gts 250m?
thats really my question. underclocked vs. a stock lower GPU which will win?

 

The biggest determinant is whether the GTS 250M you're considering is GDDR3 or GDDR5. If it is GDDR5 it will be equal to a 256-bit GDDR3 card, else it will be far inferior.

 

The GTX260 will be a better performer than the GTS250 be it GDDR3 or GDDR5. However, the GDDR5 version will be much more powerful than GDDR3, and will be near GTX260 levels. Most high end GPU are around the same level. the GTX260 on the Asus is clocked exactly like a 9800M GTX too, so you can check out benches from that.

So even if the GTX peforms better in games and all, it will still consume much more power and run much more hot. GTS probably gives 40% more battery life with such little power consumption.

 

okay thanks so i might be able to get like 3-4 hr vs 1-2 on the g51j?

 

also could i play emire total war at 1080p at max settings? along with most future releases of empire total war?

 

the gtx 260m, even underclocked, will be better then the gts 250m, even with gddr5. But I would think both will be able to play any of your games just fine.

Why not get the sager/clevo with the 280m? Rjtech sells a barebone of it and you can get the 820 i7 es cpu on ebay for cheap.

 

The normal Geforce GTX 260M is basically an overclocked Geforce 9800M GTX, but since the one in the ASUS has the same clocks as the 9800M GTX then it should perform near the same. The Geforce GTS 250M on the other hand, with its 128-bit memory buss is more or less a crippled Geforce 9800M GT having the same amount of shaders and identical clock speeds. Now if I remember correctly the deference between the Geforce 9800M GTX and 9800M GT was around 20%, so I would take a guess the difference between the ASUS GTX 260M and GTS 250M would fall around 30%.

 

A GDDR5 GTS 250M will be within 10% of the 260M clocked at 500/1250/800.

Period.

fyi the 9800M GTX less than 5% over the 9800M GT.

 

There you go, then the difference between the ASUS Geforce GTX 260M and the DDR3 Geforce GTS 260 would probably fall around 10-15%. I guess the 20% difference was between the Geforce 9800M GT and Geforce 9800M GTS.

 

well im debating between the msi and clevo, but the clevo is heavy, thick and runs hot, so im thinking maybe a lighter lappy with a lower gpu, take the price diff and buy a nice desktop too

 

ya, the msi barebone is dirt cheap compared to everything else.

 

well im in a situation where some mobility would be nice, and well the clevo does not do a very good job of it, it has GPU power yes, but cpu is just the same as everything else, i cannot see speding $400 more for a gpu. However the question is the GT740 or GT640? the GT740 will most likely run cooler, as there is more space for cooling, am i correct in this assumption?

 

Sorry, your guess is wrong, 9800M GT wins over 9800M GTS by about 5% at best, not even close t0 10%. The performance difference between high end cards is very small, performance doesn't increase linearly with the increased amount of shaders. Check how these cards perform in real world, if you look at the chart closely, the difference between 9800M GT and 9800M GTS is not even 5%, and 9800M GTX is about 10% faster than 9800M GTS.

What this guy said is correct.

 

Actually, it seems reliable, comes from the Toshiba Qosmio X505 review here :

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptop/toshiba-qosmio-x505.aspx?page=2

And it seems to have 1GB GDDR5 on-board :

http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/Qosmio/X500/X505-Q830

 

yes you can play.. you get a WUXGA screen , 2 hard drives , altec larsing speakers and core i7 processor.. and certainly way more cheaper than the toshiba.. the ASUS G51J is going for $1499..

 

3dmark06 aside, the gaming results fall in line with the 9800M GT.

 

yea, that 3dmark06 score is just odd

it's sad that msi decided to use gddr3 instead of gddr5

 

well, for what it's worth, I have the Asus G51 with GTX 260M, along with a T9300 CPU, and with stock GPU clocks @ 500, or Nvidia stock of 525, or overclocked to 550 (all these with proper ratio shaders and memory), my 3DMark06 varies more with drivers than overclock...

So, I wouldn't worry about the Asus underclock much. The 260M GTX is a GREAT GPU, and my scores are always around 10,000 +/-500

 

Not that odd to me. 8k with a 28W TDP. It's great. Means the GTS 260M (38W) will hit 9k, barely below the GTX 260M (75W !!!). Less heat is always a good news.

 

I think it's odd because the vantage score is high for a card that only scored 8k in 3dmark06.

 

Hey Be77solo,
Kinda off topic here but I can't use the PM ... I was looking at your old x205-sli posts about oc. You threw some numbers up that are pretty stable, but when you increase mem clock speed don't you have to increase voltages? I have never oc'd anything, but it seems like a lot of people adjust voltages when they oc. I have a x205-sli1 and its getting pretty old. So i am just trying to give it a little speed.

 

Hey S Dub,

I never did increase voltages, I'm not a huge fan of doing that as I just don't like the extra heat. I did have great luck with the SLi1 though, even at stock voltages, and never had any big issues with the machine. They are solid laptops, and I would have still had mine, but I had somebody offer me more than I could refuse so sold it to them and bought the Asus.

Try just overclocking at stock voltages, see what that gets ya. Raw power wise, that things still a beast! Trick is to just make sure the game is using both GPU's properly in the SLI profile.

 

The only vantage score I see is the PCmark Vantage in the linked review. That, of course, would be helped greatly by the i7.

 

you're right, i just saw "vantage" and assumed it was the 3dmark vantage total score.

 

erm so basically its a 9800m gt with the power draw of a 9600m gt.

 

Concerning the review of the Toshiba X505 850 with the NVIDIA GeForce 250GTS DDR5...

The review revealed 3DMark06 results of... 8,313
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptop/toshiba-qosmio-x505.aspx?page=2

Now compare this to the recent review by Notebookreview of the Acer Aspire 8940G with the NVIDIA GeForce 250GTS DDR3

The review revealed 3DMark06 results of... 8,140
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=434902

Am I missing something here? The DDR5 doesn't seem to be "far and away" much better than DDR3 like some people have claimed.

 

No need to double post...