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    using PCI express slot for dedicated graphic card???

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mdtajghori, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. mdtajghori

    mdtajghori Newbie

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    hi,
    I have Integrated Graphics on my notebook(Intel 945 Gm Express Chipset). I want to know if we can disable the integrated graphics and use a dedicated graphic card using a pci express port(x 16) which I fortunately have on my motherboard. These integrated graphics suck when gaming and I really want to get dedicated graphics. Thanks in advance.

    Asus F3F Notebook
    Intel Centrino Duo (1.86 GHz)
    1 GB RAM
    Windows vista home premium
     
  2. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    You mean an Express card slot? notebooks dont just have a PCIe 16x slot on them (Unless it's an MXM)
     
  3. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    Do yourself a favour. Read the stickies, for a change.
    And no, you can't upgrade your graphics card that way. The Free PCIe slots are all x1.
     
  4. mdtajghori

    mdtajghori Newbie

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    This is what i got from the intel website and according to this though i have an integrated card i can use a discrete graphic card in the pci e port.
    this section was extracted form the specification of mobile intel 945 gm chipset which I have in my notebook.My notebook is quite new so its possible that it has MXM.(Bought it in march 2007)

    Discrete Graphics using PCI Express*
    • One 16-lane (x16) PCI Express port for external PCI Express-based graphics card.
    • Compliant to the current PCI Express* Base Specification base PCI Express
    frequency of 2.5 GHz only.
    • Raw bit-rate on the data pins of 2.5 Gb/s, resulting in a real bandwidth per pair of
    250 MB/s given the 8/10 encoding used to transmit data across this interface.
    • Maximum theoretical realized bandwidth on interface of 4 GB/s in each direction
    simultaneously, for an aggregate of 8 GB/s when x16.
    • 100-MHz differential reference clock (shared by PCI Express Gfx and DMI)
    • STP-AGP/AGP_BUSY Protocol equivalent for PCI Express-based attach is via creditbased
    PCI Express mechanism.
    • PCI Express power management support
    • L0s, L1, L2/L3 Ready, L3
    • Hierarchical PCI-compliant configuration mechanism for downstream devices (i.e.,
    conventional PCI 2.3 configuration space as a PCI-to-PCI bridge).
    • PCI Express Extended Configuration Space. The first 256 bytes of configuration
    space aliases directly to the PCI compatibility configuration space. The remaining
    portion of the fixed 4-KB block of memory-mapped space above that (starting at
    100h) is known as extended configuration space.
    • PCI Express Enhanced Addressing Mechanism. Accessing the device configuration
    space in a flat memory mapped fashion.
    • Automatic discovery, negotiation, and training of link out of reset
    • Supports traditional PCI style traffic (asynchronous snooped, PCI ordering)
    • Supports traditional AGP style traffic (asynchronous non-snooped, PCI-X Relaxed
    ordering)
    • Support for peer segment destination write traffic (no peer-to-peer read traffic) in
    Virtual Channel 0 only.
    • APIC and MSI interrupt messaging support. Will send Intel-defined “End Of
    Interrupt” broadcast message when initiated by the CPU.
    • Downstream Lock Cycles (including Split Locks)
    • Automatic clock extraction and phase correction at the receiver.
     
  5. Hackman84

    Hackman84 Notebook Guru

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    You have "Integrated Graphics" so there is no free slot on your motherboard.
    And I couldn't find any Asus F3F with dedicated graphic...
     
  6. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    is the asus F3F your notebook? unfortunately you will not be able to put a graphics card in your notebook.

    the chipset might support pcie x16, but that doesn't mean that your specific notebook has the power budget (or even physical space) to support it. it also doesn't necessarily mean that you have an mxm interface, which would be required to even consider upgrading your laptop's gpu.

    if you had mxm on your notebook, you would know about it before you bought it. they few laptops that you can upgrade carry serious price tags and are usually 17" gaming machines.
     
  7. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    http://mxm-upgrade.com/Table.html


    You can't, most notebooks nowadays don't even have MXM only select few do, and those are usually high end notebooks.

    And once a notebook has integrated graphics, it will ALWAYS have integrated graphics since it is soldered on.
     
  8. mdtajghori

    mdtajghori Newbie

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    ya Asus F3F is my notebook