vista for gaming

is vista or xp better for gaming

 

i use XP, so u can make out where my vote is gonna go to...

 

how long do u think it will be before vista comes on top

 

but it didnt take xp that long
did it?

 

i remember i used win 98 for a little while before upgrading to xp. it probably won't take that long, but it's gonna be at least another year, i say...

 

as soon as a few good vista only game come out...

 

games* and new drivers and SP1 and .....

 

There is nothing the matter with vista, the issue is driver support and its getting better and better. Right now the difference between xp and vista is marginal and in some cases nonexistant.
SP1 will fix a host of issues and we should expect that next year q1.

If your building/buying a new system there is no real reason to stay away from vista. Over all its a much better os then xp just as xp was better then me and so on. Change is comming, embrace it or fight it, its up to you

 

for example? (i'm really curious, seriously)

 

well some games are vista only. it kind of helps to have vista in those cases.

 

Vista eats up a decent amount more resources than XP. In that sense XP is better. There won't be any Vista only games for a while I don't think, but I'm basing that solely on an educated guess.

 

It's pretty much consensus that most games get a few more FPS (we're talking single digits) running in XP than Vista. However, I'm not one for driver hunting, and am very content with Vista as an OS.

 

I'm excited for Windows Live gaming, as it will mix PC and 360 users in games, which I'd really like. But right now it's limited to very few games, but when it's more mature, oh man, the fun we'll have.

I don't feel like shelling out a couple hundred for a 360.

Oh, and I like Vista for gaming.

 

i'm not talking fps either...i really want to know what are the major advantages of vista over xp!?

 

DX10 when it matures, but it'll be a while.

 

I use Vista and it's fine. No driver issues and games run great on a 128mb 570m.

Things will only get better with SP1, which is currently being beta tested.

 

Vista is fine, if it is a new machine, gaming will be just fine. It really comes down to what hardware you have now IMHO. If you have something newer, and at least 2GB of RAM, you will game with Vista just fine.

 

with 2gb ram and a 2ghz core 2 duo processor plus a 8600gt will vista run games properly
also will sp1 be free to download or will i have to purchase it seperately

 

Gaming will NOT be just fine in all cases.

- Older games have issues, and I'm talking pre 2005, not pre 2000 or something stupid like that.
- Installing a game doesn't always place icons in the start menu.
- Games definitely take a performance hit - this is ok if you have a high-end desktop machine and comparing 80fps vs 70, but we're talking laptops here with reduced GPU power, so 35 vs 25 fps is definitely an affect.
- Audio issues (crackling), moreso with desktop PCI cards, than integrated audio
- Requires more memory & resources in general

sly97531: yes that system should be sufficient. Might want to consider 4GB at some point if you're planning on gaming into the future with Vista. SP1 is a free update. All service packs are free downloads. Just when a service pack is released, that service pack is now part of the OS's sold, so no need to upgrade those (it'll be referred to as Vista SP1 or Vista with SP1).

 

Same thing they said about XP vs win98 isn't it? In 98 you only needed 32mb to run smoothly, then in XP it took 256mb to run smoothly.

The same people that complain about vista, usually can't afford an upgrade, it's pretty obvious that your 5 year old system can't run the new OS properly.

Regaurdless of what you may want to believe, it's all going to come down to whether you think the visuals are worth it in DX10, since even games that are DX9 compatable will just look better in DX10, like Bioshock.

 

umm if a want to play older games
then wat??

 

well I play Starcraft on Vista, if that isn't old I don't know what is.

 

does anybody play red alert 2 on vista

 

i haven't had any problems with old games on vista

 

i play games like aoe1, patrician 3, moh:aa, diablo 1 and cod on vista. the only game that i hacve had problems with is moh: pa

 

Even semi-recent games like Tomb Raider Anniversary, Enemy Engaged 2, STALKER have issues with Vista.

 

Does anyone know if Syberia/Syberia II or Indigo Prophecy will run on Vista?

 

I suppose that I am just lucky, but I've had a very smooth ride with Vista. Everything has worked very well. Driver/Device installation has gone MUCH more smoothly than in XP.

I had gotten so used to expecting installations/device changes/driver changes to screw everything up in XP or just fail in general and suddenly things just WORKED! HOLY CRAP BATMAN! IT ALL JUST WORKS LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!

I had almost switched 100% to OSX when I tried Vista in bootcamp and got sucked back over to Microsoft's side (now it's 50-50, we'll see if that changes with Leopard).

I have no use for XP anymore expect for my 700Mhz, 256mb RAM, AGP4X DELL inspiron I bought in 2001. And in that case, it works just fine within the realm of XP's capabilities (websurfing).

Anyway, point is that the only truly infuriating issue I had with Vista was the utterly braindead file transfer system that would cause network and even internal file transfers to take 40 times longer than they should. A few weeks back they came out with a patch that fixed the problem. Problem solved!

Game FPS difference for me is so negligible that I don't use XP on my primary machine anymore (2-5 FPS drop with new drivers, sometimes Vista is 1 or 2 FPS faster). It is probably the 4gb of RAM that make the experience especially comfortable, although I was using 2gb before and things worked more than adequately. I don't consider smarter RAM usage a negative, most people seem to think Vista just loads random crap in RAM because it is stupid. Vista isn't a game console, it is an OS built for many kinds of software, accordingly, it uses its RAM for more than just games.

I was a real Vista hater before, but unless you have software or games you NEED that you have personally determined does not work in Vista, there is absolutely no reason to buy XP versus Vista on a new computer. Conversely, if you are not buying a new computer, there isn't much reason to run out and buy Vista for your current computer unless it is for DX10 games and you have a rig capable of DX10 (Dual Core 2.0Ghz+, 2Gb+, 8600GT +).

 

Vista kills the only games I play and crashes them almost every 2 hours FFXI and Sword of the New world. Sword runs about 90% So I don't mind the small change so much Just a bit lower FPS maybe 2-6 at times. But FFXI oh lord FFXI Even with the upgrade for Vista that SquareEnix released I go down to like 4FPS with low settings on my BRAND NEW notebook that can run LOTRO on MAX so YEah Vista cant do my favorite games then it sucks for me.

 

XP probably until at least Vista SP2.

 

If you play mainly newer games, go for Vista (since some newer games will be Vista only). If you also play some "old" (1-5 years) games, go for XP.
I'm using Vista and the newer games run awesome (UT3 at 1650x1080 at med-high completely smooth). On the other hand, Warcraft 3 won't go over 60fps and goes sometimes down to 20 at 1400x900 on high...

 

if a no choice and want to play older games the nfor how long will i have to wait or will i never be able to play them on vista

 

dude im not quite sure what these vista haters are getting at...if you purchase a semi-respectable system hardware wise you should be fine for any games. My "old" games include CoD, WC3, BF1942, Half-Life, Starcraft, Freespace 2, MoH AA and others, all of which run as well as ever.
Vista has been nothing but wonderful and smooth for me. You won't have to "wait" to play old games on Vista you will be fine don't allow the haters to steer you away from it. I highly recommend Vista it is easier to use, better looking and runs games practically identically to XP.

 

also i heard that microsoft will pull xp from january
will i be able to buy a copy after that

 

but it does appear in the "games" section where solitaire and free cell are.

exactly.

No, from them you will not be able to.

 

so i have to get a copy before that even if i decide to downgrade later?

 

XP will always be faster than Vista - Vista is newer and requires more resources, that's not news, it's just how it is. The issue is that Vista is not allocating resources efficiently so you notice the hits on less powerful systems and powerful systems aren't happy that it can't run an os at top speed when it should.

I found XP to be more responsive. When I play Call of Duty 2, XP is a lot better loading the game, the maps, and never suffers from lag. Newer games don't have as much of an issue. It's just the maturing process of an OS - there's so many hardware platforms out there! It will take a while but that's why some of us are cruising with Vista right now and others won't be getting the performance they should be getting until SP1 or later.

 

i do think ive had a better time with xp than vista, in vista stalker had an awful habbit of going at around 40 fps on high w/o dynamic lighting then out of the blue dropping to 10-15 fps... wtf? and i couldnt get diablo 2 to run in fullscreen w/o crashes

id stick with xp for now

 

How much of a performance hit is there with vista? Ex: 3dmark?

 

I think Vista has matured greatly since it's public release in January. I was playing BF2 yesterday and boy, it looks and feels great (using 163.75 driver) compared with XP.

Though, I am using SP1. Anything less, well.. I have issues..

Mike.

 

how is that possible? not to say anything, but what an os has to do with how a game looks like?

 

I mean by no artifacts or graphical glitches due to video card drivers. Also, the performance/IQ is about the same. Will test other games later.

 

ok, gotcha is the sp1 for vista out already? or u're just using the beta?!

 

I'm using the latest beta.

I'm liking the new Aero themes and some minor tweaks Microsoft added.

 

cool, cool, we'll have to look into vista then pretty soon. as long as no new games require vista(which i think will be a load of bull), i won't switch to vista.

 

I don't know, Vista looks to me as a transition OS to something bigger, as it was ME (although not at the same extent). From win 98 to Xp there were many noticeable differences, but from XP to Vista there are not. XP to Vista is similar to what it was from 98 to ME (all the Vista's software novelties can be acquired by free third part software, and Vista is not more stable or safe than XP), not at the same extent since ME was much worse, but the processes are comparable.

 

Right but XP was a complete change from Win 98, starting by the relation hardware-software: Until Xp, Widows OS were only a burnish of DOS.

 

that's exactly what i was wondering about. whether the vista is a step-up as compared to xp.

 

Ya at this point I wouldn't say Vista is a step up, it's more of a sideways step. It has some nice ideas that just weren't put to practice well across all the hardware platforms.

That's why SP1 has so much anticipation, because if they somehow manage to get it right, it will give Vista a huge boost. A lot of people are expecting that so if MS goofs up, it's at least 12 more months of XP in the lead and in my opinion it will be too hard to recover from.

 

No, but the Sp1 will solve current issues, which is fine, but still Vista will not be a jump in an OS (as Xp was). Same with ME, Vista is only "prettier" (which you can get using third party software), and in exchange it consume more resources.