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    whats the difference playing on a LED TV and a LCD pc screen?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Satyrion, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    I thought about getting an external 24 inch pc screen but than i thought, why not just get a 40 inch TV and play on that! Whats the ups and downs here?
     
  2. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well you might need more space to fit the TV >.>
     
  3. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    it all depends really. i'm by far no expert, so i'm sure i'll be corrected here :)
    the resolutions, if you run a lower resolution on a bigger screen the graphs look considerably worse.
    i found that although they were both at 1080p res it looked a lot better on a 22" monitor than on a 42" TV.
    Although if the TV is good and the resolution is decent (e.g. 720p lowest!) then it would be ace having the massive screen, as long as you have somewhere to put it :)
     
  4. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well monitors can go above 1920*1080 while most HDTVs don't, that's one difference.

    And LED TV will also cost considerably more than an LED monitor(we're talking 200$ vs 2000$).

    Another thing is that TVs usually have integrated speakers while most monitors don't. Mind you this is probably a moot point since I'd recommend getting a dedicated sound system in either scenario.
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The only real difference is size. An LED TV is just a really big LED monitor, which is just a specific type of LCD.
     
  6. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    and price :)
     
  7. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well size and price are the most significant differences.
     
  8. lappyftw

    lappyftw Notebook Guru

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    led tv should have a better contrast,perform better with the color "black" and "dark scenes" and it uses less power then an lcd.

    I suppose the display quality of led is better then lcd.
     
  9. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Same technology, they are both LCD's the largest different is obvious the size. From there smaller details like aspect ratios, pixel density, response time and such come into play.


    Your one of the many confused. a "LED" screen is still just a LCD the screen itself has not changed nor any of its statictical factors lke contrast, black levels, and any other screen related atrribute, the only thing that has changed is the backlighting source is swapped from CFCL to LED. It does use less power and it can on a good set offer more even lighting of the screen and usually less LED screens I have seen have backlight bleed, but again the screen is the same.

    Back to the OP question "the difference between LED TV and a LCD PC Screen" we can conclude that both are LCD screens they are the same. LED is the backlight source and computer monitors also come in LED backlight variants its not exclusive to HD TV's
     
  10. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I know haven't shopped around for the best HDTVs.

    But among those I can afford, haven't seen one that is even close to having correct coloring. And no matter what settings and adjustment I make, the colors, contrast, tint everything is also really f*'ed up. I have a feeling you have to lay down some serious in the high 4 or 5 digits to get one that isn't f*'ed up.

    So if you want the correct colors I'd probably look at an IPS LCD Monitor.
    - Specifically looking for IPS LCD screens. Not sure if these are made in HDTV, highly doubt it.
    - IPS have better correct color and also excellent viewing angles.

    I know Dell makes a 22" IPS that is affordable.
    - Personally I don't care, the 17" screen on this G73 is fine for me.
     
  11. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    thanks for the answers!
     
  12. maverickbunit

    maverickbunit Notebook Geek

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    For me, it's harder for me to process everything on the screen on a large 40" TV, a 22" monitor is much more manageable.
    It could just be due to viewing distances but yea, I found myself struggling in FPS's where the seeing and detecting any movement within the whole map was important. ie - CoDMW2
     
  13. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I loved my 37" HDTV as a computer monitor. I sat about 2.5' away from it and it really brought games and movies to life.

    I felt it was the best computer purchase I made in several years, colors were great BTW and it was under 4 figures for full 1080p (dont get 720p for computer use)

    The only reason I went back to regular monitors is because I got 3 of them for surround gaming. I would always prefer a large HDTV to a single computer monitor even a nice 24" IPS like the ones I have.

    The 37" is still there but a bit too high up to play on comfortably at the desk.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    That is an awesome set up you have there.
     
  15. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, just wanted to show that I have experience with both a HDTV and a Nice monitor(s) so I am speaking of from experience when I give my opinions on HDTV use for computers.

    I kinda miss the 37" even now sometimes, it made web browsing large and easy to read, and there are quite a few games that do not work on my 3x monitor setup so I have to use a single 24" screen and even though its 1920x1200 its not as nice as the 1920x1080 on the 37" screen.
     
  16. Lannik

    Lannik Notebook Geek

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    The biggest draw back to a tv to monitor is in motion intensive games Call of duty, BF2BC, Ace combat, even fallout 3 is you'll have to pay extreme attention to the point of straining your eyes because you have to scan so much screen to see small targets. id reccomend if youre going the tv route to go smaller than a 42 inch and look around the 30ish range and below.

    Ive done it on both a 60 inch and 42 inch HD tv and they both can be a bit overwhelming to the senses. Visual quality is fine just your eyes are constantly darting back and forth and for any extended period of time playing can cause quite a headache. i actually went back to a 17" monitor and it feels comfortable to me plus i tend to play better at FPS on it.

    Another option is an HD projector and then u could choose a size what fits you best and change it at any time.
     
  17. fzhfzh

    fzhfzh Notebook Deity

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    Another difference is that a LED TV has analog input, while monitors use digital input, you will need converter/tv tuner to get the input that you don't have.
     
  18. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I have yet to see a HDTV without digital inputs. Infact most HDTV's have higher connectivity than computer monitors.

    A average monitor is VGA and DVI.
    A average HDTV is composite, component, hdmi, & vga with usually more than one hdmi and component input.

    dvi and hdmi are interchangeable with a $2.00 adapter, most pc video cards come with a dvi --> hdmi adapter in the box.
     
  19. lozanogo

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    I read in a thread in this forum, long time ago, that in a TV you also have some extra post-processing effects in comparison with a monitor.

    I have no sources to back it up, but in that thread there was a link to the beyond3D forums, which by far are more technical oriented than this forum.

    I hope this helps.
     
  20. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    They were talking about a specific model of TV not all TV's the ones most notorious for that effect are the Samsungs with the dynamic contrast. However any newer models have a "PC Mode" or know when your using the PC input and disable it.

    Nobody said the extra post processing was bad anyways, most people prefer good looks to accuracy, I dont see anybody using a HDTV to do sRGB accurate photoshop work anytime soon. (well I did but thats a different story)
     
  21. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    I thought about getting this TV as a monitor

    Sharp Aquos LC-40LE705S 40

    [​IMG]

    I LOVE the design of the Aquos series. This will be for my new desktop am building
     
  22. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Aquios is also one of the better quality screens out there, they are very nice and may be what I get for my next TV as well depending if I find a big sale on a similar brand/product.
     
  23. zeve

    zeve Notebook Consultant

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    Go for it, dude. You won´t regret doing it. I just can´t think of going back to a normal-sized monitor. Unless I could have a setup like Vicious, of course. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Satyrion

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    Nice i love it!

    One thing though do TVs have bad MS respond time?
    If they have do u notice it?
    How do u notice it?
     
  25. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    Why LCD? LED whould be a lot better for computer use in my opinion.
     
  26. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Something tells me you didnt bother to read any of what I posted.

    LCD is the type of screen, LED is the type of backlighting. You are not comparing different kinds of screens in that statement they are both LCD screens.
     
  27. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    I understand, but when u say LCD i think of a standard LCD screen not a a LCD with LED if u wanna call it that :)

    How about Plasma sceens for PC use?
     
  28. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    we kind of broke the MS response time problem afaik.

    most TVs are 60 hz, newer ones are 120hz.
     
  29. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    Bad idea... they have higer response times and super high power consumption.. LCD with LED TVs is ur best option... or LED LCD monitor..
     
  30. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah Plasma has higher power drain (some of them much worse than others) and also its suspect to burn-in while LCD is not.

    Newer plasma is supposed to have ways to circumvent burn in damage but I wouldn't trust it.

    Last thing I want to be doing is watching my favorite movie while looking at my desktop icons and start bar ghosting in from the background.
     
  31. ViciousXUSMC

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    refresh rate and response time are seperate.

    60hz & 120hz are the refresh rates, that is how often the image is updated on screen from the source.

    The response time is how fast it takes a individual pixel to change from one color to the next. A slower response time can induce some "ghosting" when doing very fast motion like twitch fps games (unreal tournament) however your still right that we have gotten to the point now where LCD TV's are identical to the LCD Monitor counterparts, they are using the same type of panels and processing chips so the response time is generally less than 3ms for TN type and under 10ms for IPS type both are perfectly acceptable even for competition level gaming.

    Even a slow set is 16ms these days and I think thats perfectly fine, though some "uborz l33t gamerz" may disagree. But hey I had a 16ms panel for a long time and had no problems getting top 3 on the score boards and never felt I was at any disadvantage.
     
  32. ziddy123

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    I believe hardcore CS players still prefer CRT just for the response time.
     
  33. Syberia

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    I have a 40" TV that I sit on my bed and play games on from across the room (wireless mouse/keyboard). For most gaming, this is absolutely wonderful. However, when I want to edit a video or type a document (or even browse the internet), the thing is pretty useless even at 720p resolution because everything's just too small. Sure I could sit closer, but looking at a screen that size from close up is major strain on the eyes.

    I use my laptop for tasks like that which require more or less pixel-level differentiation, and the TV for gaming and watching movies. Each has its pros and cons.
     
  34. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    the actual response time is even longer. there is a delay between the time your graphics card send out a signal, and the time the pixel recieves the command.
     
  35. Stacky

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    TV's in general have better viewing angles as well
     
  36. sean473

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    HAHA all i can say is LOL! :)
     
  37. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    3 curved displays $6,499 each!
    [​IMG]

    4 projectors used to seamlessly create one image on a curved surface using EyeFinity.

    http://vimeo.com/10637673
     
  38. peteraugusts

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    LED TV is just an LCD TV that uses a LED backlight instead of a fluorescent one. This helps alleviate the problem of poor color fidelity that LCD's suffer from, but does little to help poor black levels, response time, and viewing angles. A PC LCD monitor should generally look better than a HDTV because the pixels are smaller, thus things should look sharper. There are people who are happy to use a HDTV as a monitor because it is larger.
    There's a lot of things that affects color quality and image quality least of all is LED or florescent backlighting. The most important is the LCD panel technology.
     
  39. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    Awesome and is it $6499 for 1 monitor or 3 of them? If it is for 1 , ouch on the wallet but hey , that beats Vicous set up!