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    whats up with that

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by winkawak, May 7, 2012.

  1. winkawak

    winkawak Notebook Consultant

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    new mobile gpu like gtx675m with ivy bridge processor and latest ram..etc
    still cant run game like crysis that was released in 09 in ultra with everything to the max. whats up with that? also i never get why pc game designers keep pushing boundaries? i get game graphic needs to be better but is it necessarily to make them so high that new gpu n cpu cant even handle it with max settings? or worst gets outdated within a year. why cant they be like consoles, the graphic is not awesome but good enough to play n the fact that it wont be outdated at least for 6 years. i have own a gaming laptop and it is just so hard to keep up. finally couldnt take it anymore and turned to ps3.
     
  2. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    ...what? No, seriously... what are you asking?

    Notebooks aren't the only place people play games. My desktop can push most games at ubermax settings perfectly fine. The thing about PC games is they give you options, so it can look as good as you're willing to spend money on. Notebooks are by far the worst performance/dollar as far as PC gaming goes, but you do gain portability.

    Besides... if you set Crysis to the same effective settings that the PS3 runs it at, any modern gaming machine will tear it apart. The PS3 and 360 solve that by just not giving you settings to change, they're always low quality.
     
  3. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    I'll break it down for you:

    1. Why can't my GPU meet my arbitrarily high performance criteria?

    2. Why do game developers innovate? I find it annoying when I can't drag the slider bar all the way to right, it makes me unhappy. I'm not actually checking to see what the game looks like, I just want all the sliders all the way to the right. Also, if game developers keep innovating, they make old games look bad. This whole system annoys me.

    3. Why can't things that aren't consoles be more like consoles? Why is my PC not giving me a console experience?

    4. I bought a console.
     
  4. winkawak

    winkawak Notebook Consultant

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    like i said above
    new 2012 gtx675m cant even run an 09 game at max seems absurd
    they give us option? not really more like forcing us to upgrade every year
    like i stated console graphic might not be awesome but good enough to play, definitely not low quality
     
  5. winkawak

    winkawak Notebook Consultant

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    lol that cracked me up
    your nominated for being top troll of the day
     
  6. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Because mobile GPUs aren't terribly fast in the grand scheme of things. They're still much faster than the PS3 or 360's current GPUs, but they use a lot less power doing so.

    Remember that PC games aren't designed with mobile GPUs in mind. They're designed with desktop GPUs in mind, and a 670m is roughly equivalent to a mid-range desktop GPU.

    Also note that games like Crysis have arbitrarily high settings, a lot of which is for marketing. "There's no computer fast enough to make our game totally awesome!" You can do a task that'll take a ton of work for little actual benefit, and all Crysis does is give you the option to turn some of those things on.

    I actually don't think masterchef was trolling. He hit the nail pretty much on the head.
     
  7. funky monk

    funky monk Notebook Deity

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    Quit whining because you can't max a game out. That's what I have to say. Crysis wasn't coded as well as it could have been, which is half of the problem, but there's no problem at all with designing a game with the future in mind.

    The same thing happened when crysis 2 came out. "Why can't I max it out on my three year old inspiron?", people would say. The whole point is scalability (well it should be, some devs seem to forget that and make games which simply won't run on older systems". The point is that you should be able to get the max amount of work out of any system. If you limit it to a three year old inspiron standard then you have people at the other end of the spectrum who paid vast sums of money for their rig, only to have it sit there being a waste of money because max settings only need the same amount of power as a three year old laptop can put out.
     
  8. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Crysis runs terrible on PCs, but you should be grrateful you can even play it at medium to high with that GTX 675m. (or GTX 580m)

    I remember when Crysis was new and i played it on my shiny new notebook with a Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 and a AMD Mobility Radeon X1800.
    So choppy unless i played at bare minimum but i regret nothing.
    Being able do blow up the jungle made it all worthwhile.

    Had EA released Crysis rehash on CryEngine 3 like on Xbox 360 and PS3 we would probably looked at better performance but well, we dont have it for PC.
     
  9. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Its Nvidia that is the problem if you had gone ATI you would be easily maxing it out. :D
     
  10. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Fixed it for you. ;)
     
  11. bgstan

    bgstan Notebook Enthusiast

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    IMO it's not that the gpu can't run it max, but that the game isn't really optimized. No matter how super powerful your gpu is, it won't run the game 60+ fps.
     
  12. TrantaLocked

    TrantaLocked Notebook Deity

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    The game still looks amazing. Battlefield 3 is the only game with better graphics, hence why Crysis still runs badly for you guys.

    By the way Crysis was released in 2007, not 2009.
     
  13. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

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    And you're (not your) nominated for a Sony employee/shill of the month.
     
  14. Lieto

    Lieto Notebook Deity

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    Thats why there are graphic settings in game, so if your gpu isnt powerful enough or you try to play it on some sort of mobile calculator you reduce graphic quality. Whats your problem? If you cant afford decent gpu to max Crisis its not developer's fault. Richer people / desktop gamers shouldnt suffer because you cant afford good gaming rig. k?

    new 2012 hd3000 cant run crisis either. Its not about being new, its about being powerful.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    The laughable part, with much respect, is when you said that switching to ps3 eases your pain.

    Look, if you have a 675m or similar (580m,485m), run Crysis 1 64 bit which has dx10 feature.
    Set all the details to high, set 2xAA, set resolution to 720p, limit the framerate to 30fps=profit.

    It will look (and still) above and beyond console versions but plays with the same framerate.

    That's why they are calling you a troll. Hell, you could even cap the framerate to 30fps and switch to 1080p without bothering too much.

    Some game settings are made for extreme or dual gpu systems, that's the way it goes, because pc gamers master race demand these settings since they're shelling a lot of money on gaming systems.

    In the end the games doesn't play differently between settings, just the eye candy gets a bump.
     
  16. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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  17. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    PS3 are great they are the only consoles that allow you to run literally any video file with any codec when it is ripped and the majority of Bluray too from a USB stick.

    I dunno what else it is used for but for video files...