whats wrong with my 6990m

I just bought a 8150 with the entry cpu and 6990m

GTA IV - Episodes From Liberty City - on HD 6990M.3gp - YouTube

this video shows the guy getting 40s high 30s. I put my settings to his exact settings and i was getting 20s.

The only differance is that he has a 2730 and i have a 2630. does the cpu really make that big of a differance? I thought the game was bottlenecked by the gpu with the new i7s being overly powerful.

 

how do you know what settings he is using? i noticed someone asked in the comments

 

1. The settings are shown at 2:42.

2. No, the CPU difference does not factor in here.

3. Just to get the obvious out of the way, make sure your notebook isn't on Power Saver mode.

 

The other person may have overclocked like crazy..?

 

my laptops in high performance mode and is overclocked

 

Run the benchmark and see how much the CPU is being used if its in the high 90% it's your bottleneck

 

yea its at like 30 percent. the 2630 is overkill for modern gaming

 

Probably getting a few extra frames by optimzing windows desktop/explorer for "performance". Gotta remember your desktop in the background is still taking up some of the gpu's power........regardless, that game dips into the 20's alot, settings still set too high, game looks choppy from here.

 

yea i just noticed he was going into the 20s

he averaged 33fps in the benchmark and I average 26fps.

wonder why?

 

Well GTA IV is a very CPU intensive game, if not the most intensive.

The 7~ish FPS could be from the CPU, but he may have better RAM than you do: and combine the CPU with the 1866/1600 RAM and the CPU performance will be significantly higher than yours.

 

i was thinking it could be the fact his cpu has a higher clock rate. gta iv loves fast duals and fast quads

 

For 100%, accuracy you'd also need to be using the same Catalyst driver as he is.

His CPU is only 10% faster than yours, and that would never bring a 7fps difference by itself.

 

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yea doesnt really make sense as my computer is super optimized and overclocked ect.

 

What config do you have? Do you run the 1333 RAM?

 

well, not in this case at least. obviously there are other cases where a CPU being 10% faster could cause a 7 fps difference. not sure what you meant.

I'd say we're looking at a 25% difference. 1/3 of that is the CPU. 1/3 of that is a bigger overclock (on both CPU and GPU). The last third is shutting off windows aero, having up to software, and turning on all the driver level optimizations.

 

RAM speeds would apparently have a minimal effect on the FPS... less than 1%.
The CPU is also not the factor at play here because the 2630QM is more than enough for modern gaming - as someone already mentioned, it's 'an overkill' - especially when people with Core2Quads were able to run the game in question properly.

I would sooner attribute the cause of low FPS to something else.
Perhaps a process/program interfering in the background - maybe something on the software side.

Alternatively, the GPU might not be utilized completely either.

OP... have you tried re-installing the gpu drivers by any chance?
Or... have you been running GTA IV with some rather intense mods that the guy in the youtube doesn't have?
It might also be possible you are experiencing throttling because you might have OC-ed the gpu too much.
Have you tried running the game with the gpu at stock speeds?

 

could be cpu throttling

Asus G73SW CPU Throttling in GTA 4 - YouTube

check that out...

I downloaded throttlestop but how do I use it, the guide on this forum is way to hard.

 

just because it's enough for modern gaming doesn't mean that it can't be a cause for a performance difference between two machines where the other has a faster CPU.

presumably, the settings are pretty high. GTAIV is definitely a CPU hog. it's not like he can't get good performance, just not quite as high as someone else with a faster CPU.

that's WAY different than saying "it's not enough for modern gaming"

 

Could be the settings in the catalyst control center (AA AF A.I or v-sync)

here is a quick bench of mine:
Statistics
Average FPS: 63.05
Duration: 37.73 sec
CPU Usage: 30%
System memory usage: 27%
Video memory usage: 35%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Shadow Quality: Off
Reflection Resolution: Low
Water Quality: High
Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x8
Night Shadows: Off
View Distance: 50
Detail Distance: 30

Hardware
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Service Pack 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series
Video Driver version: 8.17.10.1116
Audio Adapter: Speakers / Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz

 

I am aware of that, however, you seem to be missing something else:

The FPS gap between the two cpu's is way too large when you take into account that there's a 10% difference between them in raw speed (GhZ wise)
A Q9100 (2.1GhZ per core) is enough to drive the game at maxed out settings when paired with a decent gpu...
A SB cpu as 2670qm has a higher clock per clock ratio and is inherently much faster than the Q9100 I mentioned (roughly by 100%, or 2x the performance increase - actually, a bit more than that).

It's very unlikely the CPU is causing lower performance in this instance.
The frame rates should be similar, if not the same - because we are talking about 2 SB cpu's of the same generation/architecture with 10% raw speed difference and same gpu's.

This looks like a problem of a possibly non-patched game, bad gpu drivers, or software issue.
Hardware problem is not excluded (such as throttling - either of the gpu or the cpu) but it would better to try out things on the software end before blaming the hardware immediately (and if the latter is causing the problem - then it's likely faulty and not working up to specs as it should - in which case a replacement should be issued).

If worst comes to worst OP, you could try a clean Windows install... but out of curiosity... have you tried cleaning out the bloatware from the OS, patching GTA with latest updates and using latest drivers for your 6990M?

If not... then do those first.

 

Assuming your card isn't overheating, could it be a driver issue? I have my doubts that the hardware is the problem.

 

@funny1984ca - you should run this at identical so we can compare the two.

FredFlint has a faster CPU but we still determine whether the performance gap is unnaturally wide.