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    where did 1900x1200 resolution go?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by jeffreyac, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi all,

    Been looking into getting a replacement gaming laptop for a while now - have to be honest, really excited about the advances and how much better the new system will be than the old - processor, graphics cards, cooling systems, all have come a long way in 3 years compared to the rig in my signature (which, honestly, isn't a slouch - so I'm looking forward to seeing what a modern system does!)

    One thing though that I just now realized - all the modern systems have 1900x1080 res, vs my 1900x1200 in my old rig. I was wondering if anyone knew why 19x12 fell out of favor, or why there don't seem to be any 19x12 graphics displays available for laptops these days.

    Anyone shed any light on this?
     
  2. pranktank

    pranktank Notebook Deity

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    Somehow nobody makes 16:10 ratio screen laptops anymore. 16:9 is the standard now, I have no idea why though, I wonder too.
     
  3. killkenny1

    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    Partly due to the reason 16:9 is cheaper to produce.
     
  4. skaertus

    skaertus Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, that's right. 1920x1200 resolution would mean a 16:10 screen ratio, which nobody except Apple uses it anymore. 1920x1080 is the 16:9 equivalent.

    The reason for this replacement is probably lower manufacturing costs. TVs use 16:9 ratio, so it is probably cheaper to make these screens for laptops too. Besides, 16:9 screens have 10% less area than 16:10 ones.
     
  5. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's cheaper and you can't even tell the difference.
     
  6. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Your gaming performance is slightly better with most graphics cards because there are less pixels to render, and 1920x1080 perfectly matches the 1.78:1 aspect ratio of all the TV content produced nowadays. And many films are either 1.78:1, 1.85:1 or 2.35:1. If you watch a scope blu ray movie like Inception on your 1900x1200 display, it's going to look like a very thin bar in the center of the screen.
     
  7. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, basically what he said. You can't really tell the difference and our eyes are accustomed to 16:9.
     
  8. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    You're confusing the differences between 16:9 and 16:10 with the differences between 1920x1080 and 1920x1200. A 16:9 display could be smaller/larger/same in size as a 16:10 display. Gaming performance is not necessarily better on 16:9 vs 16:10, as there are not necessarily less pixels to render.

    A lot of people think this way, because we're all looking for patterns, but that association is not tangible. It is exclusively of the mind, and it is the reason for the confusion. 1920x1080 is the 16:9 equivalent of 1920x1200 only inasmuch that display equivalents are entirely based on locking horizontal pixel counts or coincidentally shared numbers. The reality is that there are better interpretations of equivalence.
     
  9. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Glossy & 16:9 took over for one big reason
    Cost to produce aka to make more money.

    Secondary reasons would be simply to help converge "tv, console, computer" into a single entity.

    People use HDTV as monitors all the time now, many console games are ported over to computer, and a lot of media is based on "widescreen" 16:9 ratios.

    To most people having a 16:9 screen filled completely by a movie is more pleasing and feels like more space than it would on a 16:10 screen with the black bars on the top and bottom.

    Simply put there are a lot of reasons and demands for 16:9 but the only reason/demand for 16:10 was for people that were used to it and liked it for computing. I like 16:10 I use 16:10 monitors at home but I do a lot of computing and computer work. I also use 3 monitors and 16:10 gives me a bit better FOV than 3x 16:9 monitors would when gaming.

    I am pretty sure we will see a resolution bump in the near future for laptop displays because tablets now are hitting super high resolutions so for people upset mostly because of the common pixel count of 1920x1200 vs 1920x1080 and not so much the actual aspect ratio difference. The resolution will probably soon be greater than either on your mid/high level consumer laptops.
     
  10. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    The title of this thread is "Where did 1900x1200 resolution go?" There are less pixels on a 1920x1080 display, so slightly better performance, and better compatibility with 16:9 TV content.
     
  11. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    With the demise of the 17-inch MacBook Pro, 1920x1200 specifically is officially dead in new notebooks.
     
  12. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    One of the "newest" notebooks you can get with 1200p is the HP 8740w upgraded to a Quadro k5000m. Or maybe the Clevo d900f, though Im not sure if it can be upgraded with that card.
     
  13. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Wherever it went, it can stay there.
     
  14. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    I would love to have the 16:10 aspect ratio again. That would be fantastic. But unlikely. Oh well.
     
  15. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Oh, I forgot about the m17x r2 which is compatible with some really great screens and graphics cards.
     
  16. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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