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    xbox 360 vs xbox 360 elite

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Jokkon, May 6, 2007.

  1. Jokkon

    Jokkon Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi there, i am not sure if i could ask about consoles here but here is my question. hope some of can help me out here.
    I am planning to to purchase an xbox 360, and i just wonder what exactly does the extra hdmi port on the elite does. I know i will not be making use of the bigger hard drive since i rarely watch movies. My TV does have full hd and supports HDMI, but i doubt if the difference between the 2 is noticable. Would future games take advantage of the HDMI output or is it only marginally better than just using components cable. Thank you very much.

    P.S All xbox 360 games support 1080p right??
     
  2. someone777

    someone777 Notebook Evangelist

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    well this is suppose to be computers
    but oh well
    yes it does support it which made sony suprise
    and i don;t really know but....
    HDMI is for hd and make the game look realistic or clearer
    so it would replace component cables
     
  3. Jokkon

    Jokkon Notebook Evangelist

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    i have heard that the only advantage the hdmi cable has over the component is just that u only need 1 cable for both video and audio but 4 for components. this is certainly not a problem for me.
     
  4. shocker3000

    shocker3000 Notebook Consultant

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    From my knowledge component does not allow 1080p, whereas HDMI cables do allow you get get 1080p. Thing is barely any TVs right now support 1080p unless you are dropping a considerable amount of change. Is 1080 with progressive scan that important? And be sure your tv can support that.
     
  5. ssseth

    ssseth Notebook Enthusiast

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    HDMI is superior in quality to component. Digital to digital makes sense. Especially if you have a TV that is over 50".

    Digital (HDMI or DVI) HDTV > Analog (Component) HDTV
    as is
    480p > 480i

    Granted not the exact same in comparison, but the point is still made.
     
  6. Jokkon

    Jokkon Notebook Evangelist

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    ic thank you,
    so only the elite supporst 1080p
    the normal one supports 1080i only?
    i wonder if that depends on the games as well, do all of the games support 1080p?
    btw my tv does support 1080p
     
  7. Jokkon

    Jokkon Notebook Evangelist

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    my tv is only 42 inches, so iguess i'll save myself a bit of money and buy an extra controller instead
     
  8. DrewN

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    360 supports 1080p through a VGA cable.

    If the only reason you're considering an Elite is to get an HDMI connection, and your HDTV is smaller than 50", then don't even bother.

    From Official Xbox Magazine US (OXM):

    Microsoft says: "I don't think anybody's going to notice an improvement in their picture quality through HDMI, but we did want to listen and respond to what customers were asking for. HDMI isn't that important. It doesn't look any different than component. I absolutely don't want anybody to feel like they've got to buy this console just to get HDMI." - Albert Penello

    OXM- We say: "Damn straight. The Elite might be the only way to see 360 via HDMI right now, but the visual difference between HDMI and VGA at 1080p is negligible to most people. We don't endorse dropping close to $500 just to use a different port on your TV."
     
  9. Sneaky_Chopsticks

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    What are you talking about?

    There are a LOT of TV's that support 1080p. I have a 46" Full HD 1080P TV from Sharp.

    You can get 1080P Tv's from Samsung, Sharp, Sony, and other brands.
     
  10. IIIM3

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    I hate to burst your bubble, but most good games (gears of war) are 720i. But with this new update coming soon, they will change it to 1080i. But HDMI make almost no difference, besides the fact you can brag about it. My roomate got the elite and there is not one bit of difference (to the naked eye) with the sharpness of the picture.
     
  11. Budding

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    Most people cannot notice the difference between 720p, 1080i, 1080p because the native resolution on their screens are not that high (usually 1367x768), and that means that if you play at 720p, it'll be slightly scaled up to 1367x768, and if you play at 1080i/p, it'll be scaled down to 1367x768.

    Unless you have a huge plasma, you will not notice the difference. But yeah, the new Xbox360 model supports 1080p, which the old one didn't.
     
  12. Jokkon

    Jokkon Notebook Evangelist

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    if you go to xbox.com and look at the description of the HD av cable that comes with the xbox 360 premium package it says that the cable supports 1080p.
    btw i just went to ebgames this morning and took advantage of the console trading deal and got a xbox premium and Splinter Cell game for 250 dollars (traded 11 games :p). And i did notice a difference between 1080i and 720p.
    My HDTV is the 42inch sharp aquos.
     
  13. chonga

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    actually, games like gears of war play in 720p not 720i.... and generally games for the xbox 360 are coded to play optimally with 720p resolution but the games also support 1080i (if your tv is 1080i only which was the case for many early models of crt HDTV's) either through upscaling or if thats your monitors native resolution.

    1080p is overrated unless you're looking at 46" + and anything less than that you'd be lying to say you can clearly see a difference between 720p and 1080p.

    and if you want 1080p on the original white xbox 360, it can be done through the optional VGA cable. An update was released i believe sometime in the winter to allow for the 1920 x 1080 resolution which was locked in the options menu. so dont drop the extra bucks on the elite unless you want the cool black and 120gb HDD. you can still get 1080p for a $30 vga cable.
     
  14. Jalf

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    The games are rendered at 720p, and then just up/downscaled to whatever resolution your TV can handle.
    1080p is a killer. It gives you a huge performance hit, which just isn't worth it. You end up with a high-res game with bad graphics, which overall is a lot less satisfying than a game with kick-ass graphics and merely "good" resolution.

    Neither the 360 nor the PS3 are really capable of outputting at 1080p and still get decent performance.
     
  15. Prototelis

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    The new Xbox360 flavor supports HDMI.

    HDMI is the current high definition standard, and will net you the clearest picture. However, you need a TV with HDMI of atleast 720p to notice anything really.
     
  16. Quikster

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    If you're getting one today I'd say for 80.00 get the elite. Other than that I wouldn't re-buy one just for the Elite.
    Also, personally I'm waiting for the fall update which is supposed to have the 65nm cores instead of the 90nm cores. Which should run cooler with less fan noise and hopefully not get as many red rings of death.
     
  17. foo_ball76

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    No offense to anybody but this ^ is the only truly accurate post I have seen here. :eek: (this is a computer forum though :rolleyes: ) The Xbox 360 can output 1080P through any output except composite and s-video. That said, TV's that actually accept 1080P via HDMI, Component and VGA inputs vary quite a bit. Some accept via VGA only some HDMI, some maybe all three. You really have to check the specs and do some research on the TV before you buy your 360. The only real advantage to the Elite would be the 120GB hard drive (color is not an advantage but a preference). Wait until fall when the new 65 processors come out, which should make for a cooler, quieter, more reliable console.