yup pc gamer for 25 plus years but now?

hmm not sure how to start this off so ill be brief.

bought a xbox one tried bf4, nfs rivals, forza horizon 2, madden 25, destiny

i'll buy my next gaming laptop if someone can point out a better looking game than forza horizon 2 for pc. not only am i sold im done with pc gaming for the time being. when pcs become faster and console games becme visually repetitive then i'll switch back. god bless

 

geez, xbone advertisement on notebookreview forums pcs & laptops are already much much faster than both ps4 and xbone though

 

Congrats on the purchase, OP! Good to hear that you are enjoying your new piece of hardware.
The better looking games are already out there. Heck, you can even take old games like Fallout 3 put a few high res mods + ENB and it will blow everything away. I won't be convincing you to stay with PC and go way from consoles. No! You made your choice and if you ask questions like that you already made up your mind. I myself prefer PC over any platform and will always spend every "spare tech penny" on PC. There isn't any ideal gaming platform out there, we all make choices. Some have all, others who can't, make compromises. You did yours, you are happy, good for you! Enjoy!

 

You can just play BOTH like I do. No way to lose.

 

You've posted so many threads similar to this. Not sure what you want to hear.
My advice is, if you can't appreciate the joys of 60+ fps and unhinged eyecandy, then you shouldnt bother
gaming on a superior platform.
Not trying to be condescending here. But if you're satisfied with what you have and can't notice the benefits of a well oiled machine then you've answered your own question....
Again

 

Great story mate. Have you picked up one of those new Sega consoles? I hear they have blast processing.

 

Ergh dude I already informed you about Star Citizen in another thread, if you can't see the difference in graphical fidelity between that and your precious Forza 2 then I am concerned about your eyesight. Don't just take it from me, read up about the game. It has about 10 times more polygons that any AAA PC game that's on the market right now. It is the one truly "made for PC" exclusive that is coming out in the next few years. So there you go, I just pointed it out for the second time for you. Now go and get yourself a decent gaming PC.

 

Dude, where the hell were you in 2005 when the Xbox 360 came out and one of its launch titles, Call of Duty 2, ran better than it did on high-end PC hardware costing 5x as much? I'm talking about a cutting-edge game at the time that basically held a locked 60 FPS, dropping only slightly in heavy smoke/dust, at 1280x720 max settings (0xAA & 0xAF) on a $400 console. Not even the $650 halo card back then, the GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB, could pull that off.

Hell, I remember walking into a Fry's Electronics and playing CoD 2 on what must've been a $3-4K monster PC (it had 7800 GTX SLI) and still getting drops to 30 FPS. Mind you, it was at 1280x1024 4xAA 16xAF, but still. And CoD 2 was one of the few games that scaled really well during SLI's infancy.

I had a brand spanking new 7800 GT back then and had to drop down to 1024x768 to get the 60 FPS I wanted in multiplayer. CoD 2 on the 360 was the only time ever where a console game made me look at the $2K PC I spent years saving up allowances for, along with a little extra help from parents, and going :cry:.

However, this generation of consoles is so anemic that your argument is completely invalid. One can easily build himself a budget gaming desktop for not much more that'll run circles around them during their entire lifespan. And in the case of the underpowered and overpriced Xbox One, an identically-priced PC can be had that'll meet or beat it.

I'm just really tired of all these console apologetics you keep posting and I'm sure others will agree. It's spinning bull. If you enjoy the experience, great, but don't stoop so low as to make up facts and exaggerate their capabilities to try to justify them for whatever inane reason.

And as for Forza Horizon 2? It's a 1080p (*golf claps*) 30 FPS game on Xbox One. IMO any PC game which runs at 60 FPS is a "better-looking game." Plus, the racing genre has never been known for its technological prowess and Forza doesn't break that mold.

/DrunkenPost-ThanksgivingRant

 

Top post. The 360 generation of consoles really was a leap and surprised me at the performance. This new generation is terrible at best and like you say a basic gaming PC walks all over them. My laptop is as powerful but tbh doesn't run games as well and tbh its all down to poorly optimised PC ports. That's what's causing the issues. Wouldn't surprise me if it was deliberate... Aka watchdogs where the advanced PC options were hidden from the menu in order to downgrade the game and make it appear the consoles were better/as good...

I won't be buying a new gen console because I don't support companies who rip off the consumer and perform dirty business practises to further sales of poor products. That's why I'd rather mess around with an egpu that buy a console

 

^^^lolwut. At that time I had Intel Pentium 4 630 3GHz, 1GB RAM, nVidia GF6600GT (later RMA'ed to GF7600GT ) and I could run COD2 on max settings (16xAF, 2xAA) on 1024*768. The game was crap though. Nothing like COD1 at all. It was my very first encounter with conselititis...

 

Read again. He has to drop to 1024x768 to get 60fps, it ran like crap at 1280x1024....

 

I know, but he had a 7800. I thought it should have been enough for 1280*1024.

 

That won't happen until significant improvements come in the engines used for developing the games.

 

lol i love that...yea im just playing both

 

also do you gentalmen however you spell it, think games will look any better as im not familiar with last gen as i was enjoying crysis warhead maxed and thought cod 4 looked like it was 10 years old.

Like will forza horizon 3 look alot better or is it going to look all the same from here on in?

Last question halo 5 is it me or does it look ugly, saw some videos of it at 1080p and the e3 trailer looked like cgi and that actual gameplay looked like N64. how is it even possible to make it look that ugly with a 7850 im sure even me alone could generate a max3d file that runs 1080p 60 fps and looks better. im thinking they should delay it until 3015. well at their current rate of progression it might end up looking like a next gen game 1000 or so years later.

thoughts ?

 

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10 char

 

At 15 FPS?

Tom's Hardware - Benchmark Call of Duty 2

Nah, CoD didn't get consolitis until MW2. The first 3 games (up to MW1) were awesome on PC. CoD 2 was just like CoD 1 except for massively improved sound and graphics and regenerating health (not a big fan of this but wasn't a huge deal). All the other PC-specific features like mod support and dedicated servers only were still there. Don't know how it is now, but last I checked a couple years ago, CoD 2 still had a very active online community.

LOL not even close. 22 FPS when maxed out at 1280x1024. Yeah...

Tom's Hardware - Benchmark Call of Duty 2

So you can imagine how pissed I was that my $400 video card was vastly outperformed by a $400 console. You needed $1200 worth of video cards alone (7800 GTX SLI) to match the 720p60 CoD 2 experience on Xbox 360.

 

What kind of settings THG was using, because I had definitely more FPS than 15. Not 60, but in the 20-30 zone for sure. I'm not sure now if I had those 2xAA, but definitely it was max, 1024*768, 16xAA. Don't remember what patch version I had. I had some ASUS GF660GT with 256MB card. It was replaced twice, once to an identical 6600, and then to a 7600GT.

There you go - regenerating health, first sign of consolitis. Then you had only two guns total. Another sign of consolitis In COD1 you had two proper guns + a handgun. And you could change firing modes. Sound and graphics were definitely great, but gameplay was crap.

 

Max settings 2xAA 4xAF for that one. But even with 0xAA 0xAF, 6600 GT only gets 21 FPS:

Charts, benchmarks Desktop VGA Charts 2005, Call of Duty 2

CoD 2 doesn't have a built-in benchmark, so Tom's used a custom timedemo. No idea what sequence they used. If I had to guess, probably the Russian campaign at the beginning of the game. If you remember, those parts outside in the snow plus the American D-Day landings later in the game with all the rain and NPC's were the heaviest parts of the game.

Another thing is that it only allowed you to select up to 8xAF in game. You had to manually tweak the config file to enable 16xAF. Anisotropic filtering had a bigger performance impact on GPUs back then, something to keep in mind.

I remember switching to the DX7 render mode easily doubled to tripled performance in return for making it look like CoD 1.

This is what mods are for, right?

But seriously, those are niggling complaints to me. The core gameplay was still intact in CoD 2. If anything, the campaign was less linear than CoD 1. P2P matchmaking, killstreaks, poor map design, locked FOV, locked down console and config file, and no mod support was where it really started to go downhill for CoD.

 

Well they weren't to me . Another reason I disliked COD2 was bigger amounts of cranberry in Soviet campaign (culminating in COD5). COD1 somehow had control over this.

 

It is thanksgiving...

 

Let us sit down an give thanks to Ubisoft for ruining our dreams, first Watchdogs, then AssCreed:Unity, now The Crew, in the future Rainbow Six Siege (uses AnvilNext, a guaranteed fail) and most likely The Division (please god no, do not preorder this game). Thank you Ubi! You can ruin anything! (I am angry that The Crew will be jacks*** most likely, probably it STILL needs to be patched, like everything)

 

Bad cranberry joke..

 

OP you want a game on PC that looks better than FORZA horizon 2....well how about Project CARS?

 

it looks great but project cars overdoes ambient occlusion and reflections. looks god don't get me wrong but its no horizon 2 killer maybe at 4k but then again i dont have my 4k tv until dec 31st lol...then we shall see

my plan is to have a gaming desktop or laptop hooked up to my 50in 4k tv and a xbox one hooked up in my room to a 1280 x 800 led projector

I scoped out the projector and even though its only 1280x800 it looks so good it could stop a crying baby in its tracks. below is a link to screen shots of my projector that i should have dec 3rd

LG PB60G LED 1280x800 500 LUMENS - Page 9 - AVS Forum


scroll down a bit to rush

unreal eh for under 400 cad that is

also my tv is the 50in samsung un8550 series 4k 3d tv with 4 pairs of active 3d glasses ugh i hate actve but hey its all gimmicky well sorta adds the z axis which is like saying are eyes depth perception is just a gimmick that is until you start walking into walls.

my laptop and or desktop is undecided i thinking o going and building one here Memory Express, Inc. - Computer Parts & Laptop Computers in Canada system builder tab

 

lol my grammar and all the typpos cause of my brain and laptops keyboard...mostly lack of grey stuff

 

I don't get comparing different games visually on different platforms, its like apples to I don't know, kryptonite kinda comparison...

 

pc vs consoles
pc vs pc
consoles vs consoles

which makes more sense to compare when a xbox one is involved and im on a gaming pc gaming that is forum..

 

lmfao

nice nice rep

 

is this for real



if it is im locking myself in my room when i buy it asap...the remake looks better than crysis 3 so is it real? anyone reading this respond asap as i peed myself

 

^^^Did you even watch that video to the end? Because once all prerendered stuff ends you can see actual gameplay footage.

 

Dude, XB1 can't even run Halo 2 Anniversary at full 1080p. It's 1328x1080 with a horizontal upscale, which is fewer pixels than 900p. It's pathetic.

 

can't even run?

dude PC can't even run farcry 4 right now

halo 2 anv is using a old engine and if you think thats irrelevent then compare crysis 3 to COD:modern warfare 1 on the xbox 360

if the xbox 360 can look as good as it does at 720p with crysis 3 than xbox one and ps4 will look 10 times better in a few years at 1080p once new engines are made.

right now nfs rivals runs at 1080p 60fps and looks incredible, forza horizon 2 is 1080p 30fps, farcry 4 is 1080p 30fps im sure when halo 5 hits you will all be trading in your older pc for consoles cough unchartered cough.

when a 7970 desktp card can't handle what a crippled 7850 can handle on xbox one then my predictions were right you will never be able to catch up even with sli to console graphical advancements, pcs are designed for multi tasking and consoles are designed for gaming and the catch 22 is most pc gamers always claim they are the true ones. well im a pc gamer and i know for a fact the die hard gamers are console players.

 

Isn't that game limited to really low resolution for Xbox?

EDIT: supposedly it is only 720p PS4 vs. Xbox One Native Resolutions and Framerates - Xbox One Wiki Guide - IGN

Welcome to next gen!

Racing games are not very demanding though, so you should be OK with those.

 

What?

10char

 

10 char

 

You seem to have a problem comparing image quality between platforms. Xbone and PS4 is not running games at max settings that PC can pull off, by PC can't even run FC4, you mean average PC can't even max FC4. Well, neither does Xbone or PS4. Just let me put it straight, Xbone and PS4 right now uses something like 7870 right? That scores 6k on 3dmark11 P GPU score (yea they are accessing raw power of the GPU have better SDKs whatever, it won't double the performance). Current top of the line mobile (yes not desktop) PC GPU (980m) scores 12k. Good enough comparison in terms of power for you?

 

If it's such an old engine, the XB1 should at least be able to handle it at full 1080p, no? But the fact of the matter is, it can't. Having to run the original Halo 2 side-by-side is no excuse. That game ran on the original Xbox, for god's sake.

Nope. 1080p 30 FPS on XB1. And looks much worse than on PC.

Spoiler

Nope. 1440x1080 30 FPS on XB1.

Nope. My nearly 2-year-old laptop puts the hurt on XB1 any day of the week and even beats the PS4 in multiplats. I'm sure when Star Citizen and Unreal Tournament hits, you will all be trading in your obsolete peasant boxes for a gaming PC.

And why mention Halo and Uncharted in the same sentence, they're exclusives for two different platforms.

LOL why do I even bother with this guy...

 

Problem I have with such sort of statements is a costs of Xbone/PoS compared to a PC. A laptop with 980m simply can't be put next to Xbone/PoS cost wise.
I will agree that PCs have more power, but at what cost. Now comparing a PC/laptop in 700-800ish price range would be more adequate (I choose bigger price because PCs can do way more than just game. If we would add cheap games we could easily bump it to 1k ). Performance wise it still should rip console a new one. Lappys also get bonus points for having an onboard "TV."

 

Totally, I was defending the cost effectiveness of consoles a few weeks back and by octiceps (and myself at some point ) was proven that PC gaming is both cheaper and better Still I think they are cheap (especially during sales), I mean Xbone was 320 this holiday season with a free copy of COD:AW. Pretty good deal I think (not for me though, I like spending money on high end gaming machines ). Anyway the thing is, nobody is putting the shame on console gamers or anything (many of my friends are console gamers, I quite often attend PS3-MW3 parties, yes I know, we are still playing it ), but if they "claim" that its better quality, then that's just wrong

 

not claiming nor have i ever claimed its better quality

pcs stutter with farcry 4 and yes far cry 4 on consoles is like high/maxed 1080p 30fps steady, its simply a better expereince.

next spending 2.5k on a laptop to have stuttering on a major title like farcry 4 is unheard of its the wrong choice to make if you are able to think clearly about it. sure im getting a 1800 dollar desktop despite what i say about consoles but thing is im getting a 970 and its 1800 my xbox was 399 1400 dollar differance, so why justify throwing good money at bad.

 

First mistake is buying any Ubisoft game, especially on PC, and expecting it to run well.

#Ubitimization

 

yea im dissapointed I was looking forwards to 4k maxed on my new tv...depressing fail buy ubifail same goes for unity. I feel let down

hopefully gta V works out well its the next big title.

 

Dude, for that price you can go 970 SLI or 980. Heck, if that's a budget for a PC only (no OS, display, keyboard, etc.) you could even try squeezing double 980's in there.

 

That's just funny

 

yea now thats just funny

 

how?

link to sli980s for under 1800 in canada and i need a os nothing else thanks

 

Oh Canada... Nope, it won't work.