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    2600 hd gpu

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by messeduprex, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok so im trying to overclock my laptop gpu with the amd tool i can get it to overclock i know this because my temps go up a bit. but i dont know what i'm overclocking to. because the specs on my gpu are
    Manufacturer ATI
    Series Mobility Radeon HD 2600
    Codename M76
    Pipelines 120 - unified
    Core Speed 500 MHz
    Memory Speed 600 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 128 Bit
    Memory Type DDR2, GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 256+ MB
    Shared Memory no

    DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 4
    Current Consumption
    Transistors 390 Million
    Features Avivo HD Video, PowerPlay 7.0, Programmable Tesselation Unit (meant for Direct X 10.1)
    Notebook Size medium sized
    Date of Announcement 14.05.2007
    Information 65 nm Fertigung
    Link to Manufacturer Page http://ati.amd.com/products/MobilityRadeon

    so its supposed to be at 500mhz but theses are the default clocks per the amd tool
     

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  2. schoko

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    do you have power saving enable in the catalyst control center ? you should completely disable the powerplay in CCC.

    what version of amd gpu clocktool are you using? the version that works for me is 0.27 b4. the earlier ( before 0.27 b4) steppings of amd gpuclocktool have not worked out for me either.
     
  3. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    its not ati tools or ati tray tolls i found this on guru3d apperently its from amd
     
  4. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    That was it thank you!! lets see if i can come close to the 2600 hd xt it's only an overclocked 2600 hd
     
  5. schoko

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    well, then glad you found the problem.

    good luck and have fun with ocing.
     
  6. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah thats what i was talking about that worked i disabled power play and it showed up right at 500/600 mhz. i'm just unsure what are safe temps for the gpu on powerplay the temp stays at 52-55 with it off around 61
     
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    you should have an hd2600 XT in that laptop
     
  8. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    nope hd2600 no xt clocks are 500/600 mhz xt runs at 700/750 mhz
     
  9. schoko

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    my guess is you could go up to 80-90 °C for this card. the hd 2600 i have in my notebook never heats up more than 40 ° C, but i´m sure it can take up to 90 degrees.
     
  10. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    just ran 3dmark06 on factory settings no power play and got a 3572 and temps maxed at 81
     
  11. schoko

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    nice score for a t5500. with the t 9300 you should gain some more cpu points. guess your overall score is gonna be 100- 200 points higher with the new processor.

    btw. i have done some ocing tests some month ago, and i found that my card ( 256mb gddr3 hd 2600) is locked at 640 mhz for the core. the ram i could easily clock to 800 mhz.

    a good setting for my ocing tests were at 635 / 740 mhz. that seemed the best ratio of core /clockspeeds i could do. raising the clocks for the ram did not make better results, since the core would not deliver that much more data.
     
  12. messeduprex

    messeduprex Notebook Enthusiast

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    just ran 3dmark06 with gpu clock at 600mhz and mem clock at 625mhz and got 3992 with max temp at 88. is that too high
     
  13. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    no its not bad, but try to stay below 90. continuous heat of anything higher then that COULD potentially damage it.
     
  14. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    for benching purposes 90c is ok.
    but if you gonna play long try to find the spot where you get some extra frames but you don't get your gpu overheated, having an extra frame for 5c is not such a good trade off in the long run.
     
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    ok, I don't kow why you say so, but I cannot grasp the fact that when I have my GPU set to 600, 630 it runs so **** hot at 87C when using FSX, and with it set to default., it runs at 80C (I gained about 30+ extra FPS though...) but could som eone please tell me that 87-88C will not do any damaage, cause it seems awfully close to 90C
     
  16. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    Actually you might have cause for concern. ATI 2600HD cards have been known to rocket its users into the past when reaching 88.
     
  17. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    Also, use RMClock to undervolt.
    One of the issues I found with that lappie, is that the CPU heat is being transferred over to the CPU, because they share a heatsink.
    I would run HWMonitor to monitor temps, and using Orthos to heat up the CPU cores, I could see the temp on the GPU rising to over 60-65c, even though it wasn't being used.

    Undervolting the CPU, and overclocking the GPU, I was able to run about 621/748 clocks, with max temp of about 71-72c on the GPU during heavy benchmarking/ATI Tools 3D View, or that FurMark tool.

    OT:
    DOOK!!!! Got that 6860FX in my hands!!!!

    Man - what a HUUUUUGE "laptop," and I use the term loosely, as I don't know WHO has a lap THAT big ;)

    T
     
  18. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    You do, good sir. You do! :) And congrats! Did it come looking like a new one?
     
  19. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    Yup - no scratches, nothing. Only thing, was that the HD compartment was not snapped down. They screwed it in, but 2 of the tabs were sticking out.

    Otherwise, looks good as new, brown box, with lappie, psu+cable, and a "thank you for buying refurbished" sheet.

    First think I did was use Acronis to image out the lappie, and I'm sure my kids will have a heart-attack when they see the size of the screen they can now game on with Steam!!!

    Fast sun oof a gun gfx, though...


    T
     
  20. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    LOL! Nice! Glad everything worked out for you. I'm 110% you and the kids will be happier with the 6860 vs the 6864. Not that thats a bad lappie, but for the price a refurbed 6860 is an as$kicker with steeltoe boots.
     
  21. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    Yo, to minimize continuing OT on this thread, is there one where driver info and stuff is all located at for the 6860?

    I wanna do a clean install, and want info on what driver to use, etc...
    BTW, where is there a synaptics driver?

    Like, which NVidia driver ya using, whaddaya use for overclocking, etc..

    Well I *DO* have one issue, and contacted GW support - if it isn't handled, I'll let ya know. It's a rather surprising thing.
    Not gonna jump the gun like i did on Costco, though - going to give them a chance to fix it the issue.

    T
     
  22. Gruvin2

    Gruvin2 Notebook Guru

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    I just did a fresh install and just googled Synaptics for the newest driver..I did find the touchpad wayyy too spastic with the default driver. Worked flawless once the Synaptic driver was installed.
     
  23. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    The Recovery DVD, if you burned it, actually has the Vista x86 and x64 driver on it! The download version (6860FX I'm referring to) is only the 64-bit, i think.

    T
     
  24. Lakjin

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    x86 x64 will only be on the CDs that came with x64. If your laptop came with x86, like my M-152XL and the other M series, the recovery dvd will not have x64.
     
  25. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm talking about the recovery DVD that you burn, not the Vista DVD that comes with the laptop...unless the case is STILL the same, being a lappie that came with x86 only comes with x86 drivers on the DVD that you burn...


    T
     
  26. slayerfaith1982

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    i just got a 3dmark06 score of 3613 on my m-6862 w/ the hd2600. That a good/average score for this card?
     
  27. Lakjin

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    the case is still the same =)
     
  28. lewdvig

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    Its the same except for the XT's 256 bit memory. No amount of OC'ing will make up for the 2600 non-XT's 128 bit memory.

    But for $750 the M-6864FX is a great deal. I paid $899 CDN for mine and I am happy.
     
  29. sigsegv0x0b

    sigsegv0x0b Notebook Geek

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    BB had (has?) the M-6862 for 679 to 599 depending on your luck and the store. It appears to be the same machine as the M-6864FX in most respects it has a slower but a slightly larger drive and a different color scheme.

    I picked up the M-6862 but I find that the HD2600 gets *really* hot running the fur benchmark. It can get *over* 100C after 5min or so this while running fur in stress test mode windowed at 1024x768 and looking at AMD GPU Clock Tool sampling temperature in another window. 3DMark06 gets it around 80C or so. So it's not a very good stress tester comparing to this benchmark.
    To add stress I was running prime95 to load up the other core. In total I managed 90C on the CPU and 105C on the GPU.

    if anyone has the time I would love to know what temperatures you guys get on GPU and CPU while running FUR for a few min.

    http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
     
  30. sigsegv0x0b

    sigsegv0x0b Notebook Geek

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    According to notebookcheck both the HD 2600 and HD 2600 XT have 128bit bus and only differ in clock speed.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-2600-XT.3770.0.html
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-2600.3771.0.html

    Here is according to ATI
    http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonhd2600xt/specs.html
    http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonhd2600/specs.html

    Both have the same:
    128-bit 4-channel DDR2/GDDR3 memory interface

    So according to ATI the only difference is clock speed. If you can overclock your HD 2600 to XT speeds and not afraid of frying it or your cooling is sufficient then enjoy your HD 2600 XT.

    Another interesting thing of note when using EVEREST Display/GPU section it solves you various States it reads from the PowerPlay BIOS. And my HD 2600 on M-6862 has "State #4" as quotes from the Info:

    State #4 GPU: 600 MHz, Memory: 700 MHz (UVD).

    I have a feeling the HD 2600 XT and HD 2600 are just marketing distinctions for the same chip. Chances are it's probably up to manufacturer to market it as a higher clocked part if their cooling is sufficient? Which is why there might have been confusion with the gateway support site claiming that M-6862 (and the rest of the M-Series are HD 2600 XT) while product page claiming they're HD 2600.

    http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/Tempest/1015594R/1015594Rsp2.shtml

    Most likely there is no real distinction between the two of them. Certainly using FUR benchmark my HD 2600 at 500/600 gets *VERY HOT* already. So I am unwilling to enjoy my HD 2600 XT because it will probably burn out if I overclock it to those speeds as my laptop simply can't provide the cooling needed for those clock speeds.