7811 FX Flash Jerkyness

For the life of me I can't seem to fix this problem.

I can't play fullscreen flash video without lag, the video freezes and jerks.

This is the first laptop I've owned so I don't know if this is normal? None of the desktops I own do this, and some of them are a bit older, like with GeForce 7600 cards.

I've formatted and reinstalled several times, using both restore disks and the partition. I've tried several different nvidia drivers.

I currently have the ones off the gateway website installed. When i swapped drivers before I would uninstall them using the add/remove programs and then run a driver sweeper.

 

Check the performance tab of the Task Manager and see if your CPU/RAM is under a heavy load while trying to show the flash full screen. You can also use hwmonitor to check your GPU temps.

It is not normal for a laptop, the difference between a laptop and a desktop is mobility. Other than that it's all decided by hardware and software, just like ANY computer. There is no problem caused solely by the fact that it is a laptop or desktop.

Have you ever tried a Dox driver? The 182.46 worked best for me. However if the problem is not the GPU driver, changing drivers obviously won't fix the problem.

My P7801 didn't come with any disks so I'm not sure what the restore disk provided by gateway actually is. You say you've "formatted and reinstalled several times, using both restore disks and the partition", but does that mean you deleted the old C: partition completely and then installed a brand new Vista OS in the unallocated space? Or did you simply restore to a previous state?

 

I completely deleted the partition, made a new one, and reinstalled Vista from the recovery partition.

The disks I used for another attempt were created from the gateway recovery software that came on the laptop. It created a Vista DVD installer disk and a driver dvd.

I think I did try a dox driver at one point, I've also tried a version or two of the xfastest. I don't think I tried 182 however.

I'll see about getting a program going to watch the temps.

Using task manager it seemed like the processor was at about 65% load or so when flash was running fullscreen and getting the jerky problem.

Also to mention, I don't see this problem in other places... Like running games fullscreen at higher resolutions. World of Warcraft in paticular doesn't have any issues.

 

Are you trying to do this in 1440x900 resolution?

Has the video download completed when you are pressing play or is it still downloading the rest of the video while you're trying to watch it full screen?

 

1920x1200 resolution. Its a streaming video. Generally from Hulu, but it doesn't matter really. It does it on youtube as well.

According to hwmonitor the gpu is hitting about 48° C under the max column. HDD is 49, both cores on cpu are 56.

Possibly running too hot? I don't have a cooling stand for it, it just sits on a wood table.

 

I have the same problem with a 6860FX but it isnt a great concern of mine..... regular size is fine then fullscreen and bam... sttuuuuttttteeeerrrrr

 

I have the same problem with my 6860. Full screen gives me all sorts of stuttering. I've tried all of the flash versions i can find and cant seem to find a cure for it.

I just resolve myself to watching in less than full screen (though a bit annoying as HULU only gives small and full screen options)

Its really odd, and i'm almost willing to say its an oddball hardware issue that creep up in certain machines. Which stinks because i LOVE hulu (gotta watch me some House and Bones)

 

there are at least half a dozen threads on this. the solution i think is to go to nvidia ntune or something and/or the hard drive settings and leave the settings at full power at all times.
it does increase the temps. but i think it solves this problem which is very annoying.
search for the exact solution.

 

Pretty much all of my settings are maxed out most of the time.

Are you talking about turning off the Powermizer from nVidia? If so yeah that would stop your vid card from downclocking and cause temps to stay up (as well as never letting the card rest)

the 8800gts/9800gts should be PLENTY powerful enough to play flash even under the lowest powermizer setting.

If the powermizer itself is the problem then yeah thats a bad thing. I'll have to turn mine off and then down clock my card to the same settings as "low" and see if the powermizer is really messing up our video watching fun

 

Well I installed Ntune, and everytime it tried to run it would BSOD and say it was nvoclk64.sys

Instead I searched for powermizer and how to disable it and saw people had come across the registry entries for doing just that.

The only registry entry that showed up in mine was PerfLevelSrc which I changed to 2222 from 3333 to completely disable the powermizer.

The other entries people mentioned didn't show up, and I noticed when I had the latest notebook drivers from the nvidia website, not even that one showed. It finally did when I installed the drivers from the gateway website.

So far it seems to have worked. No more jerkyness while watching fullscreen flash videos. I've tested a few different ones so far.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

 

no prob. how r the temps now. use hw monitor. thats the only reason i didn't go for this solution.
but i suppose if one was going for a flash video session one could set then reset the settings in powermizer. do we change registry or go into pM.
isn't this messed up though. i mean, the video card adequately increases power when playing a game. but on a flv video, noooo. Even lappies with integrated graphics play flash smoothly, on full screen

 

Yeah it sits around 50-55ºC or so while watching videos and up around 65 when gaming.

Its kinda irritating, would think that even downclocked the videocard could handle flash fullscreen just fine.

 

I have the same problem, but it studders on the revision3 web player.

 

I've also had this problem with all sorts of different display drivers in Win7. Haven't found a fix yet and it's mighty annoying. It must be something to do with the nVidia drivers.

 

Ive got the RC as well, never noticed a problem when I had vista a long time ago haha....what drivers are you using?

 

It's been a while since I had Vista installed but I didn't think it used to stutter. Couldn't remember for sure though but you say it didn't? Hmmmm.

I've tried all sorts of drivers v181.71, v181.72, v185.85, v185.85 Dox. All the same. Must be some sort of bug. Very few others with the problem though.

 

Is there a way to make the card stay at a higher clock while playing flash videos? I really don't want to disable powermizer and have my laptop run hot.

 

Higher clock = More heat

If you're worried about heat there is plenty you can do to cool down your P7811

 

Well it appears I found the solution, you need to disable hardware acceleration when you right click the video itself... and click the first lower tab to see the checkbox.... after that I have been able to watch full screen anything on hulu without a stutter or freeze...... heres a reference Fix in FAQ

Apparently there is a problem with utilizing hardware for flash as it says in the FAQ

 

Yeah I've tried that many times before with different results. Sometimes it helps but it definitely doesn't eradicate the problem for me. It's definitely some sort of driver issue. I suppose it'll take nVidia months or even years to fix just like colour space levels issue.

 

Ok I've fixed it. Someone mentioned powermizer earlier and I thought I had tried disabling it already but obviously not.

I ran through these steps:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19134

Some of the keys were missing so I just added them manually.

Now all flash video is perfect, even with hardware acceleration

 

seen that before too. really don't wanna mess with it. the gpu ramps up fine when a game is started. wonder why it doesn't do that for video.
whts also weird is that when i d;load the same video, it plays fine on any video player in full screen. but messes up on live streaming in a browser.

 

Well obviously the nVidia drivers don't realise that flash video requires help from the GPU and so it stays downclocked. Who knows if this is flash at fault or nVidia. No need to worry about changing the reg keys though, mine has been running perfectly since.

 

Download Adobe Flash Player 10.1

It fixed the stuttering and the jerking.
The newest(beta) of adobe flash

 

will try that, although i read here (in another thread) that turning off H/w acceleration does the job..and it did for me

 

The NVIDIA drivers not upclocking the card when required during online videos is the problem on my system. Its insistent stay at 2D levels will always cause stuttering.

I wonder if this is NV's way of saving power.

 

Why rely on Nvidia when the fix is as simple as this ?

 

I simply turned off hardware acceleration for flash and it solved the problem. Still strange to me but its a solution.

 

I went to power options, under PCI Express, LSPM, turn off power savings. Solved my jerkyness.

 

Keep in mind that there is a known bug with Flash and Firefox dealing with the automatic backup. Google flash firefox bug to get the proper way to fix it.

 

flash does not have very good support support for GPU acceleration, my 7811FX has problems too. One fix i find is to run my screen at 1440x900 or 1680x1050 when I play videos, it helps. the new version of Firefox has support of HTML 5 which will allow you to play videos without flash and rather with just codecs.