7811 FX Stuttering Graphics/ Slow Bios Boot

I'm new to this forum so go easy on me....I finally, after researching and researching all i could I about my problem, and finding no similar issues or solution, I decided to join here.

Now down to business. My Gateway 7811 Laptop has been acting up since about march. In all my games I get, what I'm calling a "camera pan stutter". Moving forward and all around directionally is fine but when i turn the camera around the character the world is jumpy, and stuttery.

When I first bought this laptop everything ran on MAX like a dream. Bioshock is my prime example because now I can barely play it because of the "camera pan stuttering". I just recently bought L4D and the same thing persists.

I recently wiped vista 64 and did a clean install of windows 7 home premium 64 in hopes that it would fix it. Unfortunately it did not.

I also have an extremely slow bios boot. My bios hangs for about 30secs before the "mouse initialized" line comes up.

I have done everything software wise that i could think of. Ran mem test, prime95 overnight, overclocked with ntune to see if that would fix it. Nothing has worked. i have come to the conclusion that it is a faulty graphics card thanks to nvidia x.X unless i find its something else...

I also contacted Gateway about all this and well they did nothing.....such poor service...... I have a friend who works for Geek Squad but even he is stumped by this.

I don't know if this is related or not but on my old vista 64 I installed a very invasive program called libusb. This was used for hacking and streaming code to my ipod touch 2g. I don't know if this could have caused something to happen to the bios or the graphics card.

Help would be appreciated! My warranty is out to so im up for anything to get this machine running like it use to!!

 

mmm that sounds like a right pain.

btw u posted this twice.

wel first off, the long bios boot, sounds wierd, mine is a few seconds, has it always been slow bios boot or is it just recently. You could try looking for the new bios, if there is one, and reflash it. But if you do be very careful, a bad flash could screw it up more than it is the now.

for the jittery graphics, thats very wierd, try downloading the latest dox video drivers and try those, i had more sucess with the custom ones than the nvidia ones. I have a video stuttering problem with the nvidia ones but the dox ones cleared that all up.

apart from that if the problem persists i suggest that you contact gateway again but you will probably have to pay for it to be repaired.

and im guessing it will have to be them because the graphics cards on these computers are not replacable, there on the motherboard, well im pretty sure they are, there not removable like the alienware ones.

good luck and i hope something i have suggested worked for you

 

Yeah I tried a few DOX and XFastest drivers before.....they didn't solve any of the "camera pan stuttering" issues. And i used driver sweeper each time.

When I first bought the laptop the bios and start up were very fast. It started to slow around last march if i remember. For some reason it never bothered me as much till about this summer.

I was thinking about flashing my 9c.05.00 bios to the new one. I just don't know which bios version to use or how to flash it or if flashing it would help at all.

Also Is there anyway to test a failing graphics card?

 

is your battery setting on high performance?>

 

yes and powermizer is on too and i have tested it....it does not down clock in game.

I cant figure this out its driving me insane I paid for a high performance laptop and its under-performing!

Please help! @.@

 

So you are still on the original .05 BIOS (the one with no RAID) and havent updated anything else that you can think of that would cause you issues with your set up?

You said you did a clean install of vista and Win7... what all did you load before trying the games out?

 

Thats the thing.... i didn't change anything with the win 7 install. It was bare bones when testing games except an install of the 186.81 geforce drivers but nothing performance wise changed and everything i previously did to try to fix the problem was on vista 64. :/

And yes im still on the 9c.05.00 factory default bios (which hangs before booting into windows). Would that fix my problems?

 

try the new bios, see if it helps

heres

 

those are not the latest bios out for the laptop. the latest ones can either be downloaded from this page
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303626&page=131
post #1303 by iata or you can download em from gateway. im using the ones posted by iata very easy to install and strait forward.

 

Ryokowashu which one should i use on my 7811...

.10, .17, .31 ?

 

you can use either the .10 or .17 i would recommend the .17 since its alot newer. the .31 is for older laptops from the p68xx sereis so do not flash the .31 you will brick the laptop.

 

Well good thing i didn't flash it to 31

I just got done flashing it to .17 and it fixed my slow bios and most stuttering in my games! Except bioshock lol

Thanks for the advice i didn't think flashing the bios would fix it!

 

glad you laptop is nearly back to top of its game, maybe try some different drivers now and see if it helps since the bios update

 

ok well i just turned off and on my laptop fro the first time and its still hanging a little bit before it finds the harddrives....it no longer hangs trying to find the mouse wich is good.

Which driver do you recommend for the 7811? Should i stick with the nvidia, go with the factory default or go dox?

 

do you have a usd flash drive or an external HDD plugged in ?

 

Nope i tested it without the external plugged in.....what could be causing the delay before it finds the HD?

 

well in order to improve boot times you could change around the boot order to check the hdd before anything which should help. some discs when put into the dvd drive can make a boot time longer especially if its a dual layer disc. since you just flashed it you could also try reverting the bios to defaults (try it even if it is at defaults)

as for the driver i was using a dox driver but upgraded to the newer 191.07 driver and i must say im getting fantastic fps with these drivers.(i also updated the physx drivers to the latest. i dont think that would make much of a difference though)

 

Well the Bios is at defaults except for quiet boot off so i can see whats hanging...its still much better than before so Im not to worried about it. I can boot into windows in about a minute now...... before it would take almost 3 minutes sometimes..

Did you use a modded inf with the 191.07? Cause I'm sure they haven't been released for mobile yet.

 

yeah im using a modded inf.

 

can i have the modded inf for 191.07?

 

here yah go
for x64 (dont have 32 bit one)
http://laptopvideo2go.com/infs/190series/19107_win7x64/nv_disp.inf

 

Thanks man I tried them and i got good results with bioshock! Im still having trouble maxing games. Like L4D i should be able to max but i cant get 60 frames unless i turn off the anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering :/ Im pretty sure the 9800m gts should be able to max it no prob.

 

L4D is really cpu intensive at least compared to most newer games so that could be its problem. Also in my experience AF barely impacts performance these days so I wouldn't lower it but AA makes a huge difference.

 

I think i finally figured out what was causing all the camera pan micro stuttering!

In myy nividia control panel i had "use the advanced 3D image settings on instead of "Let the 3D application decide" and once I turned that off and the other on it fixed it! ^__^ That's kind of dumb that the nvidia control pane can conflict with the performance in games....especially because I had all the defaults on....

Hope this helps anyone who ever comes across this problem and thinks its a hardware issue!

 

My notebook just started hanging on bios screen as your..
I flashed all bios available until 9.25 but the problem persist..
It's so bad because I just bought a SSD and the computer hangs more on bios screen (on shadowing video bios) then to boot Win7.
I tried already with the old hard disks (single and raid)but it still hang
I upgraded also the intel chipsset driver for the sata controller with the lates rst 9.6 but it still wait 40 sec on this screen

before to go at this

Any help
Thanks

 

make sure nothing but the mouse is in the USB slots and nothing in the optical drive................

 

Sorry I put the 1° image wrong Now I uploaded the correct oness

 

All SATA devices need to be recognized, even the optical drive. A dirty lens in the optical drive may make it think there is a disk in there and slow its initialization. Also a bad drive that can't spin can be an issue too.

I realize this is a long shot but a possiblity just the same..............

 

I have facing same problem for 2 years. Plz remove your optical drive and you will see your laptop boots normal. i think problem in SATA detection or Sata Optical drive hardware problem.

 

I tried to clean the lent but nothing changed so I removed completely the dvd slot and boom!!!
Magically the notebook passes the bios screen in a sec
but I can not stay without the dvd Slot.. I searched for newer firmware but nothing..
Any suggestion???

Thank you guys

 

O so its the CD/DVD Drive thats causing the slow boot. Ill have to look into this more. Since My first post I have regained my fx7811 back to optimal performance [running the new geforce beta 260 drivers ] Also if your getting stuttering in your games it may be from your sidebar running pc monitor widgets.

Any the CD/DVD Drive on my lappy sucks, cant read a barely scratched :/ might upgrade to the blue ray one.

 

i just got a Samsung SN-S083C (the optiarc has finished to write/burn dvds last week. ) for 40bucks and the notebook passes from power off to win7 in less than 30s
Now it's working well

 

Great news! I think What TANWare might be true for me. My disc drive has been acting up lately, sometime i cant even play a clean non scratched dvd fully! I might get around to replacing it, but as disc media becomes more obsolete (I watch everything on NetFlix, hulu,etc) i may just disable it, through the control Panel.

By the way, i just upgraded my laptop's ram to 8gb gskill 9-9-9-24 but Speccy is reading it only a 7-7-7-20 :/ anyone know how to fix this?

 

Might as well go for broke! Would this work and fit?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...028&cm_re=slot_loading-_-27-118-028-_-Product

 

Hey, Wavedashdoc +1, thanks for starting this thread. I have been living with a miserable slow boot for a long time and flashed 17 per this thread. My boot is now uber fast. The optical discussion was good info but was not my problem ... yet.

I used winflash successfully (held my breath). Seems like the fan might be more aggressive with 17 but my room is hot so time will tell. 7811 could use a little fan bump anyway.

 

I just replaced my optical drive with the Sony Optiarc Black Slim Slot drive. Like TANWare, said the optical drive lens on the old drive must have been scratch because I put the new drive in and my bios instantly booted!

Only problem with the drive was with the front faceplate. It didn't quite fit the case. But I was able to securely attached it, flush, after a slight modification using a box-cutter knife as you can see below.