7811 under performing

ugh where to begin on this.....

When I bought my 7811 back in Aug of 08 it ran perfectly, flawlessly but sometime around the middle of January I started to get really bad stuttering and low fps. I was unaware at the time of over heating issues in laptops (this was my first gaming notebook) when i ran speed fan i was getting over 100 c! Now since that time and better drivers the overheating is no longer a problem. I worry though, that this might have damaged my gpu. I have tried everything to get it to work like it use too. I have looked on every forum post on anything relating to my problem but i cant find any answers! I have tinkered in RMclock, ATi tool but nothing gives me any performance gain!

Basically through my research i believe my laptop is being help back by something be it a faulty gpu, cpu down throattling, etc.

In games i have VERY low fps struggling to get around 30 fps at most and stuttering when i move the mouse around in a fps.

I have checked to see if my gpu is downclocking with gpu-z during gaming and its not. Staying at its defualts of 600, 799, 1500

I have run every test from prime 95 to ati tool to check for errors and failures within the system, but the tests all pass yet I have horrid performance.

And here's the strange part even if i turn all settings down to low in any game I still get the same bad performance...nothing changes!

My friend has the 3 year old model of mine, one of the old 6 series fx and he can run circles around mine in all games!

Can anyone help me? These issues no matter what I try wont go away...

 

maybe you have a virus of some sort or a program eating away resources. try giving a program called GameBooster a shot. what driver are you running at the moment? what are your max temps in games for your cpu, gpu and tzs0. i know that if the tzs0 gets too hot itll throttle your cpu down. you can use HWMonitor to figure out the max temp for all of those i mentioned.

the only other thing i can think of if its none of the above would either be maybe a thermal compound replacement for all the above or a bios reflash.(i doubt its the bios though)

EDIT: After re reading your post i think its just something in the os has gone wrong if you have had your comp running that long without a format and reinstall. i usually have to format and re install my os after a few months(my computer seems to degrade in performance after 3-4 months maybe due to driver reinstalls or something)

 

I used Gamebooster in vista but I just did a fresh install of win 7 hp and the performance is much better that i don't need it anymore. I'm using the 186.81 whql drivers from nvidia. The max that my gpu ever gets is 80 c. My Tzs0 has only ever gotten to 64 c. I did a bios flash to the .17 a month ago with no performance gain except my bios doesn't hang as long as it did with the .5.

I dont get it i should be able to max everything still with the p8400 and 9800m gts.....but yet I have to suffer with jitters and low fps....

 

hmm that is strange... have you installed the latest directx distribution? im using driver 195.39 and have no issues at all maybe give that one a shot? when you were getting high temps before when you got it back down did you replace the thermal paste? i ask this because some lower quality pastes deteriorate at high temps. if you havent already done so i would open up the lappy and put some new paste on everything. add some thermal material to the gpu ram and other chip thing that lines up with the heatsink (i can remember what it was called but if you look at the heatsink youll know which one it is)

 

yupp......i might try the 195.39 i heard that they weren't so great though. Have you noticed an fps increase? And would thermal paste really bring my computer back to optimal performance?

 

i havent had bad fps with those drivers at all but i dont really measure my fps. if it doesnt stutter or lag then its fine with me. although i have had much less crashing on batman arkham asylum with this driver.

as for the thermal paste restoring optimal performance i dunno if it will but its worth a shot. if youve never changed the paste on it then youll see a slight temp drop on idle and a slightly higher temp drop on load with a high performance paste. i use ic diamond on my laptop.

another thing i just thought of... are the fans working fine? like do they ever stop or slow down at any point even if just for a second? dust and stuff can clog up the fan pretty good even if you cant see it. i once had a laptop that had a fan spinning much slower then it did when i first got it. i blew it out with compressed air (from a compressor not those dinky cans) and it didnt help. in my case i had to open the laptop and manually pick out the clog that was wrapped around the center of the fan.

 

ok im going to try the 195.39 now. I never crash in any game and my system is very stable....maybe to stable....

I clean out my fans and air exits every 2 weeks so its not that. I dont know what it is....

either the cpu or gpu is my guess but what causes a gpu to pass all tests and say its running well in 3dmark 06 and not perform well in games.....i mean games are playable but nowhere near what it should be.....which is frustrating :/

 

Well the 195.39 didnt do anything to help my performance.....this problem continues to frustrate me

 

I had a similar problem to this where mid game everything would slow down FPS wise then pick back up 5 minutes later only to repeat the whole process over and over again. The solution was found when I installed RMClock on my PC Undervolted my CPU and locked in the multiplier. The problem has since dissapeared and left me with the next problem......the system freeze audio loop resulting from the 3d/2d clock modes of the 9800, Riva Tuner does not fix this.. x.x

 

See i never see any gain in fps.....And how do you under volt the cpu using rmclock and lock in the correct modifier? What settings should i use?

 

Im uploading a few videos to show you what i mean about inconsistent frame rate.....all my games seem to like lag when ever i walk or look at a scene that has many pologons or a lot going on....which the 9800 should not have any problem with....

 

just so i feel like we have ruled it out could you run hwmonitor then play a game for about 20 mins and then post what the hwmonitor says.(just do a ctrl+print screen)

just out of curiosity what games are you playing in which this issue happens. like which games are you currently trying to play?

 

Well its honestly in all games....some more then others. I cant run any of them (at least current games) past 30 fps at the most....when i first bought this laptop i could and that is the frustrating part.

I'll play l4d for 20 min then post hwmonitor results....

 

Here's what I have from playing l4D vs mode over 20min. Anything guys?

 

you temps seem to be well within acceptable except for your hdd they seem to get really hot as far as hdd goes you may want to do something about that at some point. hmmmm... you wouldnt happen to have ambient occlusion on in the nvidia control panel do you?

another thing i can think of is maybe messing with the 3d settings in the control panel. if it already isnt try putting it on 3d app controlled on the image setting with preview category. if it already is there try changing it to use advanced 3d settings.

 

Yeah my hd do get pretty hot but i really cant do much with that besides a cooling fan.

I have the control panel set to app controlled already and i have messed with the 3 settings before and it doesnt help.

Any other suggestions?

 

Is there anyway that this could be a bios problem? A long time ago i installed libusb onto my 64 bit system (ipod 2g jailbreak) and well lets say it was very invasive. I hadn't noticed it but after i installed it my bios boot started to stall before finding the hds. Because i couldnt get rid of the program i did a fresh install to win 7 hp 64 and lib was gone......Now this was on the factory defualt .05 bios I flashed my bios to the .17 on win 7 and the boot time improved but i still have some stall booting up...almost like its not fully detecting something...maybe the gpu or cpu?

 

i guess you could try flashing your bios again. ive heard that sometimes error can happen on a flash even though it flashes fine although ive never personally had it happen to me.

maybe try going into the bios and restoring the defaults and saving them. then going back into it and making any changes you need to.

have you tried installing the chipset drivers?(i doubt itll make a difference but hell im running outta ideas lol) these are the one im currently using for the chipset under windows 7 64bit
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18052&ProdId=816&lang=eng

 

All my chipsets and matrix manager are up to date so idk nothing has improved..

I doubt that my bios is the problem...i might reflash to .5 but i dont see it fixing anything.

Ill upload the vid of my problem to youtube

 

heres the vid notice the stuttering when going around certain areas of the game....this is common in my other games too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVdcbUkXJdk