7811FX fan control

Has anyone has any success finding a program that'll let you control your fan speeds? The 9800GTS gets pretty hot, around ~92*C when playing a game for about an hour. So far RivaTuner and ATi Tool have not helped...

 

92C? are you vents blocked? That is really hot, mine hit 72C when gaming, thats the highest I have ever seen it. I have a program called speed fan, it does not work though.

 

I would be lying if I said it wasn't 92*C. My first freeze / lockup occured when playing WoW. My vents are NOT blocked. During ATi Tool's artifact test it reached 92*C and was bound to rise more, but I aborted. What's frustrating is the lack of support for the 9800GTS. It seems to be a "Gateway" only card. . .

Not only that, my AC adapter hisses / sizzles when my computer is under load. I was planning on upgrading to a x9100 but if a 120W adapter doesn't do the job, then who knows. I'll probably end up getting a cooling pad, but at the moment, I want to see if I can avoid buying one.

 

I honestly think that they factory OCed this card from an 8800m GTS and just called it something new. Tried downclocking it yet? just the core I would assume.

LOL, I was just stating it was rele hot, not that you were some noob who blocked the vents.

 

This is starting to get ridiculous, I've just arrived upon my 2nd lockup. I'm about to take action, but not bicker at Gateway, instead, I will solve the problem myself. I'm going to perform these steps to hopefully fix the issues:

1. Buy a Targus 180w AC adapter. $28.98+ $7.24 shipping what a deal!
2. Remove the thermal gunk, and replace it with AS5. $6
3. Buy the NZXT cooler. $70

That's ~ a $120 investment, it better do the trick.

 

The 120 dollar invenstment will help...but if its hitting 92 degrees then you have a much deeper issue than needing a cooling pad.

Even the custom cooling pad i built wont give FX owners that big of a temp drop. I can get about 7-10 degrees, but all 4 of my fans are positioned exactly where the vents are on bottom. Its going to be hard to get more than 4 degrees diffrence in a normal cooling pad.

Wow just isnt that intense of a game, and under normal situations shouldnt reem your GPU like that. I think mine got to 58 degrees when i played it for like 8 hours with my wife once. 92 degrees is rediculas.

I would talk to bestbuy/gateway and get another one. There is no excuse for a GPU to get that hot in a notebook. Thermal bleed at that point is probably effecting your other temps as well...thats almost boiling water, but on the upside you could toss your GPU into a nice spinach dip and warm it up for party guests

First update your drivers, and if that doesnt work then your suffering from the bad card syndrom so many others have...and you need to return the machine for an exchange

 

Hmm, this is some useful information.

First off, I am using 177.92 drivers under Vista 64bit.

Secondly, I purchased this on August the 14th. Does Bestbuy has a 30 day replacement guarantee or a 14 day replacement guarantee? I know they have the 14 day price match, and the 30-day return policy w/ a 15% restocking fee. . .

 

Its 14 days for notebooks computers etc . You may want to head over to bestbuy explain your situation to them and the geeksquad guys and maybe then can still exchange it for you , its worth a shot before you go spending more money . i would still buy the 180w adapter though i love mine and it barely even gets warm . The factory adapter should not even be sold with these machines its way small for the amount of constant power these machines need.

 

Well mine got to 91C once with a cooler in use...but it is usually at 76C while gaming...right now at near idle it is at 42C.

 

Update: 3rd freeze. . . GPU temps both RivaTuner and ATi Tool reported 77*C temps, CPU was 56*C, HDD was 57*C. I'm seriously thinking it's the AC adapter. I don't think it can power the P-7811FX adequately.

This only happens with WoW. I'm going to order the AC adapter and see if it continues afterward.

 

I just run the FurMark for like 8 mins and guess what! HW Monitor shows 98C and it is still rising! I have also played Crysis for like 5 hours and it topped at 95C. It think it is way too high and I am thinking about doing an exchange since I just got it yesterday. Has any other 7811FX users experienced the same problem?

 

Back to the original question.. Anyone found a program that can control the fans? I've tried about 5 including rivatuner, fanspeed (or was it speed fan?), Precision, etc and none can see any fans anywhere in this thing. I wants to put them on 100% all the time .

 

thats a negative. unless you are lucky enough to own a dell and use I8kfangui for it (designed specifically for dells) the fan control is hard coded into the bios on these gateways.

 

Fans cannot be controlled, as the Fan Alogrithm is hard-coded into the ACPI in the BIOS, and hidden from the end-user. And Fan Control is not possible at a software level. It can only be controlled by accessing the BIOS String IDs in the registry, which I8kfangui does for Dells.

 

If yours doesn't get above 58 degrees when playing with your wife, somethings wrong.

And no, OP. As stated the fan alog is hard coded.

 

Which model is this exactly? Thanks.

 

from reading around i see no proof that the lockups are heat related.
yes 92c is ugly but gpus tend to downclock when overheated, get artifacts and i've seen vista shuting down the gpu driver when it hangs, so itend to think you guys just blaming the usual suspect instead of finding the cause.

and yea sure gateway should have done it before releasing it, or at leasr acknowledge the problems and try finding a solution.

anyway since this is such a wonderful machine for such a great price, i think its worth it to try find a fix rather than replacing it for an inferior notebook or a doubled priced one.

not to say that i have the solution but somebody with a 7811 should try tracking it to the source, maybe reinstall vista and then slowly add a driver and test, another driver and test...

i read one guy said he reinstalled and add just two drivers and no more lockups, however one guy is not enough to generalize.

hope someone finds this helpful

 

Yeah royk50, I don't believe there is a consensus about the lockup problems. Unfortunately, in order to really track down the cause you would need to have someone with a perfectly running machine do something to lock it up. Then have it repeatable. Most that have no lockups probably aren't inclined to make their machines lockup (i.e. install unstable drivers, overheat their machines, etc)

As for those that do have the problem, it could be almost anything cuz everyone's lappy seems to react differently it seems. i.e. a driver update may solve the prob but for others better cooling may be the ticket. Some have reported freezing even though their temps are low (~70). There's just no way to know for sure.

@xtyfyb, please post your results after you get the 180W power sup. It would definitely be interesting to know if that's the culprit. I myself do have the sizzling issue on my laptop power brick (woke me up once when I dreamt I left something on the stove). And it definitely runs hot! But I don't have the lockup issue yet (knock on wood).

 

Is the CPU fan suppose to run constantly regardless if it's on power or AC power?

 

No, all BIOSs have a "CPU Fan True Value Table", which depicts the Fan Speed and the Acoustic Level (dBA), for each temp range. The DTS sends the info regarding the temps to the ACPI, and the ACPI controls the fan and makes it run at a specific RPM.

E.g. 50-70*C -> 2700RPM (32 dBA) and 70-78*C -> 3200RPM (35 dBA).

Normally Fans don't come on, until the temp goes above 45*C or so.

The GPU also has a similar Fan Table.

The fan table does differ from one notebook to another....and plugged in/out doesn't make a difference.

 

Andy is right, the GPU will kick in at a higher rpm (duh) when the heat rises. I remember Rivatuner can change the RPM of the fans and set a profile depending on what temperature you want it to change at; but that's on my desktop as it does not work on my 7811. My GPU never went above 68C even while OCing and testing with 3Dmark so you may have gotten a faulty unit.

 

My CPU never gets hotter than 50C and that was with F@H SMP client and the back of the notebook elevated about an inch from the surface. However, when I just use it for office/internet, and have it sitting on my desk (just sitting flat), the CPU never goes over 40C (sometimes, idles as low as 28C-29C), yet the fan seems to spin at the same RPM regardless.

And why would the fan table vary for each notebook? Isn't it the BIOS that controls the fan (which, IIRC, is hard locked)?

 

Each notebook has a different architecture, different GPUs (integrated or discrete), different CPUs, etc. The eg. was the Fan Table for my notebook.

Your temps sound somewhat weird. I think the software you are using is not able to access the DTS correctly.

(The Fan tables are normally included in the Service/Repair Manuals)

Even if the fan is on, its nothing to worry about. You could be having a GPU that is sharing the same heatsink and fan, so if thats on the hotter side, the fan will remain on.

 

Well I placed my order for the Targus 180W AC adapter. for those wondering which one it is, here is a link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000IT77PY...ag=yahoo-ce-20&linkCode=asn#productPromotions

I think the main reason people are getting lock-ups is because the AC adapter is being overloaded. Let's see if the AC adapter will preform "magic".

I'll still give AS5 and a cooling pad a shot.

 

Whoa, you paid WAY too much.

MWave.com has the OEM version for 58.89 shipped and NothingButSoftware.com has it for 49.95 minus 10% off code "qwr2xy29." I went with MWave because of prior experience with them. If you can cancel that order, save the 50 someodd bucks.

 

Actually, you overpaid for your AC adapter.

Click the "10 New & Used" link.

Actually I paid $36, look at the amazon retailers. Avetec has it for $29 + shipping, only 1 left.

 

Ah. In that case I'd rather have the new OEM from MWave over the New & Used section.

 

Why? Amazon's (Avetec's) is a NEW OEM or even NEW Retail (Retail = probably not), and for a cheaper price than what you paid for your's. . . I don't see how your statement is logical.

 

a couple of weeks ago, i got a New BNIB Retail Targus 180w adapter for about 45 bucks with overnight shipping.

 

Mine was like $26 bux. Occasionally you'll find some sellers selling this unit at an extremely low price.

 

Any update?

 

My guess is you guys are hot on the issue. (marked for future purchase)

 

I got the Targus adapter even though my old one was fine and never locked up just to have a spare adapter. It is much heavier and bigger then the stock one, but it NEVER gets hot. Well worth the purchase IMO.

 

Edit: Bought it upon rancid's glowing recommendation. 38 bucks shipped from some totally unknown vendor.

 

pun intended?

 

Dude, just return it man, you paid your hard earned good money.

 

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