7811fx draft n?

Haven't seen anyone asking about this:

The box says it has draft n wireless, yet I can't get connected at more than 54 mbps.

Using my linksys pc card on my older alienware got me connected at around 240-270 mbps depending on where I was in the house.

The router is a Netgear so it's not that the linksys was connected to another linksys.

This seems to be stuck at .11g speed but the router is set to n only.

Any ideas on how to activate the higher speeds?

Thanks in advance.

 

Zmokin, I'm just subscribing to follow the thread. Interested in your progress. I'm not using an N router ATM but have one in another location. Good Luck.

I've seen this come up in other setups but I've never seen a good solution.

 

Same problem here...I am only getting 54mbps...and I have a draft N router...and draft N is enabled on the router.

 

52 Mbps on a Dlink DIR-655 N router for me

Is there a trend?

 

Another 7811 problem?

 

What Wifi Security you guys using?
WEP Does not support Draft N
Are your routers supporting only N devices? Or are they Dual Band?

 

Exactly, confirm your network is WPA2 AES security.

 

Well theres your answer, but how would it be a 7811 problem anyway.... it would only be caused by 1) Software 2) The 5100 Card or 3) The routers.... none of which are specific to the 7811. Ugh people exaggerate the number of problems that 7811 has so much, and it's always people who don't actually own one.

 

This is my router here - http://www.planex.net/product/router/mzk-w04n.htm , and I am using WPA.

 

I have no problems with my P-7811FX. I love it! I'll try and resolve this issue though.

 

just an ironic thing, im using WEP on my Linksys WRT300N Router and im gettin 108 Mbps.
Personally i don't think these things are accurate, and i never see that high a traffic speed anyway. But yeah odd about how you don't see the "N" speed.

 

you usually only see N speeds with the 'recommended' card from the manufacturer, unless you are lucky enough to have bought a dual band router.

 

Well I think I got it solved, or at least improved. I changed my router from WPA to WPA2 then I changed my p-7811fx's wpa from wpa-personal to wpa2-personal. The highest speed I have seen so far is 72Mbps, but it is consistently at 65Mbps...slightly better than the 54Mbps...but still no where near 300Mbps.

 

You cant even utilize that speed anyways, your ISP bottlenecks it.

 

Well lol yeah I know...I live in the Caribbean...Barbados...and my downstream is 1.5Mbps, upstream is 512Kbps...rather slow I know. But I wanted the n-draft to transfer files between my desktop and my laptop...I do it now but it isn't as fast. Ah well, I'll see what else I can do to resolve it.

 

I agree. A good N perks up those network file transfers.

 

And it gives you bragging rights

 

I get 135Mbps with the 7811FX and a WRT610N router. I get mostly about 81-108Mbps but I'm running 5Ghz through a wall+floor. If I go sit on the router it pops back up to 135. (5ghz does have the range of 2.4Ghz but I can't get the same throughput on 2.4, I think it's because there are like 150bajillion g routers in range of my townhouse)

Honestly I'm not really happy with this but I think it's either the firmware on the router or that the 5100 just isn't as good as the 4965 or the 5300.

To cheap to upgrade cards because the ISP is the bottleneck anyway.

So atm, I'm a member of the Waitnsee tribe (Scrubs reference)


I had a DIR-655 first and it was worse.. best I could get was 65Mbps.

Make sure your running WPA2-AES. Thats how you get high speeds.. if you run anything less you get capped out at about 54Mbps. WPA2-TKIP will restrict you also.. it's gotta be AES.

 

This is the router I'm using: Netgear WNR854T

Settings are:
- WPA-PSK [TKIP]
- speed set to 'up to 300mbps'
- 11n Max Speed (not mixed)

As I mentioned in OP, I used a diff manufacturer pc card (linksys) to connect at up to 270 so I know this works as I haven't changed any settings on the router.

My next question to you folks would be - what OS are you using with your speeds? If the good speeds are not with vista 64, maybe it's a driver issue?

And no, the speed is not for Internet use, but intranet.

Thanks

Thanks

 

Your using WPA-TKIP.. you need to change it to WPA2-AES. I'm running Vista 64bit.

 

Why would I have to change the security type if the existing security setting worked before at the higher speeds?

That said, I did change it to your suggestion and speed now fluctuates between 125-150.

However, that's still about half of what I was getting with the previous settings so something is still screwy somewhere.

Guess I'll keep messing with it unless someone else gets it figured out.

Thanks

 

Well I had mine at WPA-2 AES since last night and it is still at 72Mbps max...hm...I'll do some more debugging when I come home from university today.

 

What are y'all using to benchmark your local network speeds?

 

Hello everyone. First time poster here. Im an experienced desktop user/builder/overclocker/benchmarker, but really have never tinkered with laptops more than just using them

I have a brand new Gateway FX7811 (woohoo!) but am also having problems with connect speeds.

My device manager says I am using a Intel Wireless Wifi Link 5100.

When I go to properties it says 802.11N enabled and I have not messed with any of those settings so far.

My router is a Belkin N1 MIMO, and I routinely connect at much higher wireless speeds on other laptops in my home. 1 other lappy connects at 144 mpbs, or 144+ many times.

My brand new Gateway is stuck at 72.

I have read this thread, but cant seem to locate the problem.

Suggestions?

TY!

 

Dawgdoc, you can look at this setting BUT I have not tried it and I don't actually know if it will help or not.
http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/cs-015402.htm

I also recall reading way back that vista did some network optimizations but that those optimizations were not always "optimal" for wireless connections. I thought that there was a hotfix for it, but it may be part of vista sp1 already. Someone more familiar with vista hopefully knows.

 

Another question regarding the wireless. Are people using the built in wireless software with vista or the intel proset wireless software? I have not tried the intel proset wireless, but did have it on a much older laptop that only had xp and it worked much better than the default xp wireless software (used with an intel 2300 series wireless adapter). Is the vista wireless software good enough?

 

The intel pro wireless software isn't the same anymore in the 5x00 series. It now just integrates with the Vista stuff. That being said.. do go get the new driver and Intel Pro Wireless software because it did up my speed by a bit.

But yeah I'm stuck too. I can't get 270+.. I've done TONS of tinkering and I think it's the card. But here is as close as I got.. your mileage may vary.

Okay.. router and adapter settings.. find both.. because there ARE adapter settings. Make sure all there are only N devices on your wireless network. Install latest firmware on your router (or maybe not, check your router boards for firmware updates/issues) install latest drivers and the Intel Pro Wireless Software (it's a combo pack at the bottom of the Intel 5100 page)

Adapter:
Auto
Auto
Enabled
0.802.11b/g
disabled
WiMM disabled
disabled
CTS-to-self enabled
2. Medium-low
enabled
5. Highest
5. 802.11a/g

Most of the settings in the middle are for an ad-hoc so don't REALLY matter to the best of my understanding.

Intel Pro Wireless setting section I left everything alone I just selected the 5.2Ghz band because that is what I'm using, but the software still seemed to stabilize my connection by just installing that and the new driver.

Now to the router:

N-Only
WPA2-AES
40Mhz Wide in the 5ghz range
Auto for the channels

Find the QoS page if you have one and disable WiMM support on your router. (Probably under applications and gaming page)

Find the Advanced Wireless Settings page (should be at the in the wireless settings area.)
Beacon Interval to 50
DTIM to 1
Fragmentation Threshold to 2304
RTS Threshold to 2304

I'm running MAC filtering and DHCP reservations and lowered my DHCP available addresses to the number of reservations I actually have. (This doesn't really effect speed just giving all my settings.)


I used 5Ghz band because I have 20bajillion g networks operating around my townhouse. You should be able to use 2.4Ghz band and the 20Mhz Wide channel as well. From my information I'm not all that sure that the 5100 supports the 40Mhz band in the 2.4Ghz range, but with the settings available I never really felt certain that his part was accurate information.

 

Any other suggestions?

I have installed the most recent drivers and Intel Pro Wireless software for the 5100.

No change.

Ive played with the settings and my speed only goes down.

72 mpbs is my max, and that just plain SUCKS.

I should be running at least 50% faster, and a different MUCH lesser laptop in my home connects to the same router with 140+.

Any help appreciated.

 

I connect at 54, but I'm getting much faster than that speeds. I was transferring some files at 6MB/s just a bit ago. Which is up from 1MB/s-2MB/s on my wireless-g router.

 

6MB/s?

1MB/s?

You are joking right?

I transfer at 500MB/s on my wireless G.......

 

are you sure you arent talking about 500 mb/s (mega bit) and not MB/s (mega byte) huge difference between the two.

 

Yea...my mistake.

I was thinking KB

500kb/s on my wireless g.

Im running about the same (400-700) on this wireless N, and wont go above 70 mbps.

Not a happy camper here at all

Any other suggestions from anyone?

 

Try the networking section and the forums for your router specifically. I searched a ton of places for all those settings I listed, but maybe you can do better with the netgear forums. (I think you had a netgear anyway)

 

I have a hard time believing that the router is the limiting issue though, since I have another laptop on this network that connects at 140+ speeds.

 

Well I'm using Windows default network connection tool and the most I've seen is 72Mbps...but come to think of it I think my files have gone faster than 6MBps which is faster than G. I'll do some more testing when I come home from Uni today.

 

I also tend to think the 5100 is a crappy card, if you search around the internet some you'll find all the tech specs of the 4965, 5100, and 5300. You'll find that the 5300 is basically the upgrade to the 4965 and that the 5100 is a cheap knockoff.

I have a hunch that the limiting factor is the 5100 card, so if your really concerned and have tons of cash go buy a 5300 and replace it. I could be wrong but I have yet to hear of anyone with a 5100 card connecting over 135Mbps.

I can't bring myself to do it yet. I'm waiting for firmware patches for my router first and I realize that the true limiting factor for my connection is my ISP even if I was only connecting at 54Mbps. 300Mbps would be nice for file xfers and what not, but not nice enough for me to go replace the card. Not yet anyway.

 

Well after some research, It appears the 5100 Wifi is indeed the limiting factor.

Another person has verified that they have increased their speeds by replacing it with a 4965agn.

However I do not understand what you said about your ISP being the bottleneck even at 54mbps. I thought the maximum your ISP could trander was 100 mbps and anything over that was just flash, not the 54 mbps number.

No?

 

Uhh no.. call your ISP and ask 'em what your Mbps is.. or go to speedtest.net. You'll see where your bottleneck is after that.

 

Here is what I got from Speedtest.net



How does this equate to mbps? Is my 16,000 kb/s equiv to 1.6 mbps? 16 mbps? 160 mbps?

 

Oh god I was afraid you were gonna ask this.

1000kbps = 1Mbps

So 16,000 kbps = 16Mbps.. give or take. This is rough as the math doesn't actually work like this. But this is a rough base10 equivalent that most people use.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabit

im too lazy to do the actual math, but from the looks of it (just guessing) that appears to be about a 2 MB connection.

 

You could be right as well. I'm terrible at math even easy math.. I blame public school systems! But what I do know is that the fastest connection you can find (cable/DSL), that isn't some crazy thing like a T1 or T3 or something, isn't going to even come close to a 54Mbps connection.

 

this is true, but thats also 54Mbps before counting interference, not actual throughput.

 

Thats what I have. Cable.

Weird. The speedtest was done on a wired connection as well....