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    8800M GTS stock clocks incorrect?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by spyder9176, May 2, 2008.

  1. spyder9176

    spyder9176 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've had my 6860 for about a week now, and I've started looking into OC'ing. I know the stock clocks are 500/1250/800, but GPU-Z shows them at 383/767/301. :confused: The only changes I have made are to the driver. I am currently using the 174.93 from laptopvideo2go. Any advice?
     
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    Maybe the power saving features of your laptop were turned on, where you plugged into a wall outlet?
     
  3. spyder9176

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    I am on AC right now with the battery removed. The power plan has been and is currently set at High Performance.
     
  4. Divine_Madcat

    Divine_Madcat Notebook Evangelist

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    Nothing wrong with the card - just GPU-Z reporting the clocks wrong. It has to do with the way nVidia sets the timing on the cards. GPU-Z reports clocks based on the assumption it is using one type of typing device (crystal), when in reality it is actually set differently..
     
  5. Johnksss

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    yes...i was wondering about the clocks myself, but found that using ntune to over clock and gpu-z sensor will show the current clock setting
     
  6. spyder9176

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    Thanks guys. John, which driver are you using and what are your oc'd clocks? How much of a performance increase are you getting gamewise?
     
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    you dont need to over clock to play any games with the 8800m gts. plays them all pretty well. although there are those that would say otherwise different. and judging from most of the comments from this forum, the only game it will not run on 100 percent all high is crysis, but with the right screen (1920x1200), you can run it on meduim and be amazed at the graphics and speed it runs. (but to each his own).


    drivers are 169.09 and we're clocked at 642/942 for a score of 10831.

    and crysis doesn't like to run over clocked.
     
  8. akm

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    I am using gateway P6860 laptop with default configuration. The graphics performance is very jerky, irrespective of the settings. I tried replacing the laptop, but the new one also has the same problem.

    I also tried installing nhancer, for advanced graphics settings, but it did not help.

    So, I want to overclock the graphics card: geforce 8800m gts. The only suitable overclocking utility which I know is ntune, but it requires an nvidia chipset and I have intel chipset. However, in several forums, I have seen people using ntune with the same model as that of my laptop.

    Can anyone guide me, how to use ntune, or if anything else can be done to enhance the graphics performance?
    Thanks in advance.


    core2duo T5550, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB hdd, geforce 8800m gts
     
  9. iaTa

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=265740

    Tells you how to upgrade your driver to the latest version and has a link to the new version of nTune, now called nVidia System Tools. The overclocking settings will be shown in the nVidia control panel once this is installed.
     
  10. KGann

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    What are you trying to play? I have only experienced amazing performance, even with the T5500. Playing all games maxed out, aside from Crysis, which I run DX10, 1024x768, all high.
     
  11. akm

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    I play NFS Pro Street.
    As far as this game is concerned, it is jerky on my laptop even at low settings, after overclocking. However, there is some performance boost (thanks to iaMtHeAnimaL). My overclock settings are:
    core: 599
    memory: 894
    shader: 1345

    I am concerned about the information shown in 'view system information' tab of nvidia control panel:

    reference clock: 166.295 MHz
    FSB frequency: 332.590 (DDR) MHz
    Memory Bus frequency: 332.590 (DDR) MHz

    The FSB frequency should be 667 MHz. Is my PC underclocked?
     
  12. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    change your power settings to performance and check again.
     
  13. akm

    akm Notebook Enthusiast

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    My power settings are set to High performance only.
     
  14. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    how about posting a cpuz screen shot ?
    while running some stress utility like orthos
    my nvidia claims my cpu is running at 5341.360 mhz

    ...its not
     
  15. royk50

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    ntune /view system info is not restricted to gpu properties
    and the reading there are sure nothing to take as granted.

    [​IMG]
     
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    your system is correct, nothing to worry about.
     
  17. akm

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    [​IMG][/IMG]
     
  18. Johnksss

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    and your one of the few using the new control panel. allot of people still use the old, so you have to cover both. mine are close, but still not correct as far as frontside bus and cpu is concerned, but the multiplier is correct and the gpu clocks are correct.
     
  19. royk50

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    well everyone should install the new ntune as of now :)

    more interesting is that the last version of cpuid hwmonitor (1.10) gives dynamic reading of both tzs0 and tzs1 which is new, that is not to say i know which one is reading what sensor on the mobo :(
     
  20. akm

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    CPU-Z shows that RAM has
    max. bandwidth: PC2 5300 (333 MHZ)
    but the hardware documentation states that it is DDR2 667MHz RAM

    CPU tab:
    bus speed:166.3 MHz
    Rated FSB:665.1 MHz
     
  21. Johnksss

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    dont worry about that. and 333=665.1 so dont worry. plus that number changes often
     
  22. royk50

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    akm - no problems fsb wise.
    what about cpu core speed and multiplier ?
    even on high perf. they will downclock, so run some stress on background while viewing cpuz
     
  23. Johnksss

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    damn, i see whatcha mean. i must be tired. part of that info was for someone else...lol


    went back and edited it.
     
  24. akm

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    Under stress test (orthos):

    CPU core speed:1828.9 MHz
    Multiplier: x11.0

    If I assume, that there is no problem at hardware level, then what makes the graphics jerky? As I mentioned earlier, I have already got my laptop changed. I tried reformatting the system and then playing NFS PS without any other software installed. It is surprising that I have not seen such a complain from any other P6860 FX user.

    Now, what should I do?
     

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    You don't have to have a Nvidia chipset on the motherboard to use Ntune for your Nvidia graphics card. Ntune works just fine with that GPU. Don't worry about the chipset on your motherboard.
     
  26. royk50

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    clearly, no hardware problem.
    1. update gpu drivers (177.41 is recommended)
    2. find out if your gpu heats up and throttles down while gaming,
    run hwmonitor and gpuz in background, make sure gpuz is set to continue monitor while in background, alt tab to check.

    3. what about the in game settings, AA resolution etc.
    you can install fraps which will allow you see in game frame per sec info
    and then try changing your game settings to find the right config.
     
  27. akm

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    I get a stable fps of 60 while I scroll through the game options, but during the game play, the fps count fluctuates a lot. It is in the range 38 to 62.

    Presently, I am playing the game with all settings maxed out, except shadows (off) and filtering (anisotropic) and in the nvidia control panel, 8x filtering and 8x antialiasing (enhanced mode).
    As I mentioned before, the problem is there irrespective of the settings.
     
  28. akm

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    There is one more observation. When I play slide show, using Windows slide show, with the theme "pan and
    zoom", the transition between pictures is jerky; but, if I use Windows Media Center, then the same theme works perfectly.
     
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    64 or 32 bit os?
     
  30. akm

    akm Notebook Enthusiast

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    vista ultimate sp1 32 bit OS
     
  31. akm

    akm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Same problem was there in the factory loaded vista home premium 64 bit
     
  32. Johnksss

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    well, i just ran need for speed most wanted and mine ran fine. no stuttering
     
  33. royk50

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    well u running an x9000 ....
    how about try running it on 1.86ghz ?
     
  34. Johnksss

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    i did. 60+ frames at 1.6ghz
     
  35. royk50

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    no stater i guess ?