9800m gts to gtx

Is it possible? Since the P-FX series have a dedicated GPU I was wondering if it would be possible to do a swap?

 

Simple Answer: No.

For buying a FX laptop and a 9800m GTX, you could have bought a more powerful laptop.

 

If you wanted something better, you really should of just went for a PC....or if you had the money the Asus latest or alienware...

 

I was using an Asus for a long time and I never thought I would see the day that Asus was classed with Alienware, things really have changed.

 

Yup RangerXML the Gaming Laptop world is changing and it looks like ATI is on top of it right now. This is gonna be interesting.

 

I dont see why they dont make it easier to upgrade mobile video cards such as with desktops.... but the time should come soon enough if the manufacturers get their heads together

 

is there any good reason as to why so many companies solder their gpu's? Laptops are becoming superior to desktops in nearly every aspect but the lack of upgradable components makes them inferior!

 

For laptops under $1500, you're gonna get a better chip in the 9800 GTS vs. the Radeon 4850. The 4850 isn't capable of producing full HD (780p only). There's still the option of upgrading your cpu and overclocking the gpu to boost performance.

 

Thanks for the replies, I was just asking because I've seen videos of a dell (I think xps) getting a gpu upgrade; I was looking at the difference between the 9800m gts and gtx and thought if you could swap the two out then that would make for a really good gaming laptop.

 

i thought this thread was about converting the gts to a gtx.

the video card is soldered so it cannot be changed on the gateway. the xps2 in my sig. for example did have upgrade options but only to a certain degree (up till 7800gtx)

the 4870 (x2) etc are un-proven quite yet and owners with the asus w90 are having major problems.

 

There are a number of laptops with removable GPUs, but those are still a minority. In addition to that, dedicated GPUs are by no means guaranteed to be removable, they may very well be attached to the motherboard.

 

asus>AW!!!

 

hey i found something that i thought was interesting i was talking to my friends and he has a sager with a 9800gtx and his windows score was lower then mine for the gpu and i have a 9800gts.

 

WEI = failure.

 

Slow down, buddy Nvidia's just taking a short break

 

was he going fast?

 

a while back we were trying to flash my 8800m GTS into an 8800m GTX, just to check if Nvidia had actually cut the shader pipelines, or just left it to the bios to make sure they did not function.

They are cut most likely, and the fact that the BIOS is shadowed, meaning we cannot touch it, makes this option un-viable.

 

I think the new MXM design isolates the video card and bios from the rest. Bear in mind that the mainboard makers went and set up special manufacturing lines just to put all this stuff on a single board and sell it to notebook manufacturers. So they're not real keen on tearing pieces of it apart and setting up separate video card lines just so we can have upgradeable video on laptops. Unfortunately They'll be milking those lines for all of the production they can sell for as long as possible.

 

Wasn't it a theory back in the old 8800m gts to gtx thread that the gts's were really just gtx's that couldn't hack it so the renamed em and sell them as the lower specification. could account for the 9800m GS and GTS... who knows anyway this is all off topic from OP. he just wanted to know if he could buy a GTX and throw it in the notebook. which he cant...

 

To the OP it is possible. You have to remember it is soldered in so the old one can be soldered out and a new one soldered back in. I consider myself above average in soldering ability and can tell you I wouldn't attempt it but to the original question it is theoretically possible.................

 

Uhmm.. are you aware of a 9800m GTX that is soldered/solderable? Im not, best I know it uses MXM IV

 

I Should have reaserched this further, and I stand corrected, in current configuration of the chip you will probably never see a solderable board. 75w will most likely never see a direct solder to the board. Maybe later incarnations, as state of the art for the chip and hybrid power guess we are screwed unless MXM-III or as you state IV...........

Now I could be wrong where some namufacturer has a non standard nvidia reference design and solders the board that is proprietarily designed.

We would probably never see that just like we do not commonly see solderable boards available for the 9800m GTS now. So I should have said my statments more relate to theory than any kind of practicality. Again though 75w is impractical even in theory with these board so agian I stand corrected. BTW: Aren't these running hot enough already.............

Again I am one of those that long for the days when we shoved 429's in Pintos, only need it to run for 8-9 seconds as it ran the 1/4 mile................

 

I don't see why not. The plug in sockets that ran the 100+ watt CPU my old Sager had were soldered to the board. I would think the limitation would be in any possible forward incompatibilities that existed between interface specs (assuming the Gateway engineers adapted the Nvidia reference spec to a soldered implementation). For example, wether or not the cooling system evacuate the increased heat; are the interface electrical tolerances still in spec; can the GPU work with the old memory type; and besides this, does the system BIOS support the new GPU.

 

In a laptop the amount of power required, in addition to other components, is huge. This most likely would then create the need for a different MB design which would be larger than what we already have. I doubt they are just going to make a " One off" for this GPU. You then have to go to the cooling solution needed and yet again a design change and more likely different (read larger) case, again not saying they won't but I doubt it.

You never know though, where there is a market someone will fill it. Because there is the already available MXM option for the limited market saturation of a soldered board, and there by possibly no sli option, I just don't see it when they can pass the MXM option cost to the consumer..........

Edit; also I did not see nVidia listing other than MXM so the desigh reference is probably only MXM as well........