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    9c.12.00 in P7805u

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by TANWare, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Disclaimer: Do not do this, I'm just a geek who doesn't know any better. If you do so though you do at your own risk..........

    I updated to 9c.12.00 bios from the P7811 thread and while all is working there seems to be no real major improvement. Since this was released abouth the same time as nVidia released their drivers to prevent dead GPU's it probably addresses GPU cooling issues if nothing else.

    initial impressions or Noticed changes:

    1.) It does seem the fans for both the CPU and GPU kick in more easily/readily.

    2.) Windows Game Experience score is all the same.

    3.) Crysis Demo seems to run slightly smoother at 1280x768.

    4.) the one run of 3DMark 06 dropped 100 points but watching it looked like 1 fps or so faster, weird.............

    5.) Sound was recognized without reloading the device. On 1st boot no sound at first until initialized.

    6.) Ram usage seems down a bit, I run without a page file but it appears better memory usage, I need to use it more though to see if this stays in effect.
     
  2. AW794

    AW794 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you get any new options in the bios? Like for voltage increase/decrease for the GPU?
     
  3. kreinhard

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    Is this on XP?
     
  4. Big Mike

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    Yeah wait your saying we don't have to devcon restart the audio every boot anymore with that BIOS? If so I'll be making that switch shortly...
     
  5. TANWare

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    I am using Vista 64, some had reported sound issues with the 7811 so I wanted to re-iterate there are none I can find with the 7805.........
     
  6. TANWare

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    The bios page seems to be the same options, nothing new that I could detect.
     
  7. Big Mike

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    Aw you got my hopes up, lol
     
  8. TANWare

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    Gateway really needs a bios section to their downloads area.
     
  9. E-wrecked

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    They have one..they just don't offer any of the 7k FX series BIOSes. Hence my BIOS thread on here. ;)
     
  10. AW794

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303626

    Theres the link if anyome cares.

    My question is, since the 9c.12.00 has options for extreme chip OC, would the option still be available on the 7805U

    EDIT:::::
    Wait, is OC available on the 12?
     
  11. E-wrecked

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    No OC'ing the 7k series CPU. Period.
     
  12. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Per the manual, page 84, you can overclock with an "extreme CPU". Probability again is you won't get much if anything over the x9100's stock 3Ghz. It would be nice to see an Extreme P9xxx CPU with 25w TPD. Now 3Ghz with the lower TPD would be something.
     
  13. AW794

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    I think people have already dropped extreme chips in with out the over clocking ability. I think E-Wrecked can confirm this?
     
  14. BigHops323

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    Gateway has a 3GHz peak in OC'ing, meaning you can't overclock your processor to over 3GHz.
     
  15. E-wrecked

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    AW, yes.. I have confirmed it. And, with the 7k Series, there is NO overclocking. So, if you drop in a x9000, it will not OC up to 3.0 GHz like it would in the 6k FX Series.. The OC option is entirely removed from the 7k Series BIOSes.
     
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    Even a P9700 (assuming the naming convention stands) at 2.83 would be pretty cool, though a PX9800 at 3.0 would be sweet as well. Intel, if your watching, PX9800, do it, now. Oh and give me one for thinking of it, kthxbai
     
  17. TANWare

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    That stinks that they advertise "overclocking ability" right in their own manual but then do not deliver on it.
     
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    They also advertised RAID with the initial 7811 releases..but the BIOS didn't support it. That's a generic FX manual.. ;)
     
  19. TANWare

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    True it is a generic manual but they have had ample time to either get the need changes to bios for the extreme cpu's or to change the generic manual.
     
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    They can't change the BIOS to support OC'ing for extreme CPUs. There's 70+ pages in my BIOS thread(in my sig), and several of them explain why. Actually, the first page explains it well. Instability. The system already has a power issue..hence TZS0 - an extreme CPU with overclocking would BSOD it continually.
     
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    After update my P-7805u to 9c.12.00, now it won't recognize when I plugin headphone or mic automatically. Also the Mic in the Camera Mic doesn't work now. I checked to make sure all my levels weren't at 0. Still doesn't work properly like it did with 9c.11.00. I even reinstalled Windows and same thing. Any ideas? Sorry to ask the same question in 2 threads.
     
  22. TANWare

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    Hi,
    For the mic show all in properties and disable the default working mike, this gets it working. I don't use headphones so can't help there.........
     
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    Figured it out. It was the MS Driver causing the problem. It got updated once I updated the BIOS. I force the Conexant sound drive to be installed using the Have Disk method and now everything is working. I didn't notice it was the MS Driver since I just got the laptop last week and everything is new.
     
  24. JohnWhoTwo

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    So, you are saying that the .12 driver update works fine on the P-7805u?
     
  25. TANWare

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    I have been using it for a few days now with no real issues. I want to see what the 9c.17.00 has to offer though............
     
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    Yikes!

    I must have slept through .13, .14, .15, and .16!

    :D
     
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    more like we thought 9c.12.00 was it and then e-wrecker comes out with rumors of 9c.17.00.
     
  28. TANWare

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    Not just him, there was another post where a person had a P7805u with then lower res screen seeing that bios version as the default. I do know one thing, we give up about 10% of our cpu to something running under Vista 64. this can be seen by a few things.

    1.) SiSandra with both the P8400 and now also the P9600 has 10% lower mips than the reference CPU.
    2.) in ballanced mode, with no/low load on the cpu per task manager, the cpu jumps from 800 Mhz.
    3.) RMClock shows a non OS, system, load on both cores. The OS load is the same as reported by task manager.

    Now this is with Gateways install of Vista 64. I am not sure of other systems as I've only mine to test and others haven't reported the issue. It is probaly the same though as WE reports us all as 5.2 on the cpu and our 3dmak 06 results seem to be about the same.

    Notice below image and the CPU Load, the second from the top graphical history..............

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