Are our 8800 GTS going to go bad?

Just when we thought it was safe. Here is part of the article:

"Apparently, four unspecified board partners are now saying that they're seeing G92 and G94 chips going bad at "high rates" as well, and in both desktop and laptop cards no less. That includes 8800GT, 8800GTS, 8800GS graphics cards, "several mobile flavors" of the 8800, "most" of the 9800 suffixes, and a few 9600 variants, all of which are based on the G92."

Full article here: http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/12/nvidia-g92-and-g94-gpus-failing-too/

Lets see what Gateway's response is. Has anyone experienced a failure?

I've been running great without any issues. Hopefully this will not effect us.

 

Ooo! Is my future 7811 in danger? It's got..*gulp*...9800M GTS! And I wont be using it in the states! *panic attack*

 

Where are the Inquirer's creditable sources or proof?

 

Till a credible source comes forward, I really don't think there is a issue. th g92 cores have been out for quite a while now, and there have been hardly any problems with heat compared to the g84-86 cores.

 

I haven't heard of one bad 8800 or 9800 m chip going bad... maybe the Inquirer is just talking about the Alienware m-15x or whatever it is and applying it to all chips? ho ho ho

I'm not too worried. The Inquirer does get it right once in a while, but not everytime, not even some of the time.

 

Yesterday I got a "Video Hardware error" (well according to 'Problem Reports and Solutions menu"), where my screen went black then a few seconds later a bubble message popped up saying my video card (or driver?) recovered.

I got that playing Resurrection Of Evil, the expansion for Doom3. I am certain it was a compatibility problem, as RoE is the only Doom 3 game not patched/optimized for Vista. The original Doom 3 was given a patch for Vista. I also looked in the Problem Reports and Solutions via the Welcome Center and noticed several "Compatibility Error" reports at the same time the crash occurred.

Apart from that, I haven't gotten any errors with other games. And my GPU temps are at 47C idle and 65C load.

 

G9x are not defective.

Ask anyone if they had problems with them if they haven't overclock them or something with PCB components was wrong.

Someone would have had problems and he would post the problem if he had overheating but even in overclock mode they haven't had any problems except artifact that are normal to overclocking.

 

None of our cards have been on the market long enough to know long term defects that my crop up .

 

slander is the new black

 

I have had my 6831 FX since launch and absolutely NO problems.
The only upgrade I did was install a T9300 and that only took about 10-15 minutes(not bad for doing it for my first time)
Under light loads GPU-Z temps are around 42 C.
Under heavier loads like gaming settles around 55 C.
Compared to my ASUS C90 S this thing runs pretty silent and cool.( No more sweaty palms)
I even can play Crysis on this thing!(of course on low settings but still runs pretty smooth)
What I am trying to say is that this laptops has been pretty solid with with absolutely NO cooling issues.
On a side note currently have the 177.35 drivers on it and get between 8800 and 8900 for 3DMARK 06 scores(just ran it again and got 8829)1200x800 res.
For some reason I keep on getting a "hardware not compatible" system error when trying to get the 177.79 drivers installed(Trying to get the PhysX enabled)
Overall I would say this laptop keeps everything running pretty cool so if my 6831-FX is anything like the new 7811- FX I would have NO worries about keeping the GPU cool.
Might be up for sale soon, just ordered a SAGER NP 9262 in SLI for some devastating performance!
I really hope these rumors and articles are blowing smoke, the reason I say that is a reputable CO. like Sager would not put in these cards without some very intensive testing of both the CPU and GPU, and so far I have not heard any complaints from anybody yet.I sure some pissed off customers would have posted something by now.
So I say keep on gaming with NO worries.

 

That usually happens when the video card is overclocked and/or overheating. It puts itself in a "limp" mode to prevent damage.

 

Now Toms Hardware is picking up the story with a few more supposed details:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-g84-g86-chips-overheating,6121.html

This is not to bash any one company, but to keep all of us who have these cards in the loop to see if anything develops. This might turn into something that might not effect us. Gateway has invested alot into these cards (and so have we) to propel the FX series into the best mid-range gaming laptop. Lets see if they come out with a statement to put this to rest so we can continue to game with confidence.

 

Almost every computer website has made a post about it, Toms Hardware just added their own ideas, they didn't have any more details.

Like it's been said, if there is such a huge problem with ALL these chips going bad, why haven't the forums been flooded with people with those problems? One guy with an agenda saying "It might be worse than we had hoped for" does not = truth. Only problem is this guy writes an article for a big website that people shouldn't be reading....

 

Gateway will probably release a bios to have are fans running full blast to prevent anything from being destroyed , they did it on the HPs and dells and maybe well be next /shrug.

 

Mine gets to around mid-to-high 60's under load (gaming), so I doubt the Gateway's will have any overheating problems like those that are well-documented in the 8400/8600 lines.

 

now if you look at the temps reported by those daily "xps 1330/1530 gpu too hot" threads, you see that our gpu idles average 15-20c less and max some 25-30c less. i see no reason for a fan joke bios update by gateway. as to failures on the long run, ask dook's crystal ball.

no facts stated mere opinions.

 

HP already did this for the HDX bios update and there GPUs run as cool if not cooler then ours so they may just do it to prevent anything happening in the future or a just to make sure type of thing not that anything will or would ever happen to the GPU.

 

The crystal balls says: "Never Eat Cheese Before Noon".

 

My highest temp that i have recorded at my lappy was 78 degrees after playing for 6 hours straight COD4 without cooler and the table beneath lappy was boiling hot it was like AC adapter i don't know with what to compare.

as soon as i took it of the table the temps dropped about 5-8 degrees even thought i was playing COD4 just to see what will happened with temps.

 

That hasn't stopped any vendors from shipping G84/G86-cored GPU's - they've known about that issue for a LOONG time, and never stopped shipping them at all.

The suckiest thing of all, is the deafening silence from Nvidia.

I think it is totally, and completely irresponsible on their part, to not say SOMETHING. All hey've said is that "there is a problem." Noone still TO THIS DAY, knows EXACTLY what GPU's have the issues, and maybe what dates/batches.

I think alot is probably exaggerated, but those Nvidiots are bringing their own downfall upon themselves.

It's like going back in time 10 years, with the 3dfx debacle...

"The Great GeFarce of 2008"

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Maybe they are just preparing for some massive class action lawsuit and have been instructed to not say anything to get them in more hot water then they could potentially already be in.

 

This seems totally logical and much more feasible than the conspiracy theory that's sure to follow.

 

I tell you what, if that IS what they are doing, all they are doing is giving the lawyers more ammo. That just makes it 10X worse - complete and total negligence, and then basically ignoring it after the fact.

If *I* were one of the affected ones, no WAY I would do class-action.
I'd use small claims. Class-actions are what they LOVE, because the settlements are like STUPID.

The only ones who benefit from the class-action, are the lawyers, and the party being sued. The plaintiffs (consumers) usually get screwed.

Anyways, I've been laptop shopping the past few months, and I've basically decided to look for other-than-Nvidia laptops, not because of impending failure, because that's what warranties are for. Moreso, because of their being so irresponsible in the handling of the situation, and basically leaving the end users to fend for themselves.

I think they really left quite a few people hanging - and most are the fans that supported that company.

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well said, if only there was an alternative, a capable ati mobility cards are still nothing but a hype.

however, watch dell and hp, next gen laptops will not have nvidia M cards and that will hurt nvidia numbers big time.
with the ati 4 series killing the sales of current nvidia desktop gpu and the fact that many big names declared they will stop making nforce mobos, seems nvidia is in deep ****.

 

great post, I totally agree.