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    Baking P6860 motherboard.

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by WysockiSauce, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Well if any of you read my other topic my laptop took a dump on me a few days ago and since I have nothing to loose I thought i might drop the motherboard into the oven and see if that fixes anything. Has anyone tried this baking method? Any tips are appreciated. I'll keep you guys updated on the progress.
     
  2. WysockiSauce

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    Just an update, I tore the laptop down got the mobo out, gonna go ahead and remove all the black plastic sheets and such, before I pop it in.
     
  3. Evil Claw

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    So whats the recommended cooking temp and for how long? Are you going for rare, medium or well done?
     
  4. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    I've just been reading around so far, still kind of apprehensive about doing this.
    385f for 8 minutes was suggested for gpu's not sure if there is a difference for motherboards. It's 9 pm here so I probably won't bake it until tomorrow.
     
  5. t3rR0r

    t3rR0r Notebook Evangelist

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    I like mine a little rare please lol... have you tried searching around to see if anyone has done this before with a laptop mobo/gpu?
     
  6. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've seen someone doing the same thing with their 6800GPU (they post their work onto a forum - NGO or something :D), and succeeded^^
    But I've never seen any one doing with a mobo, god bless you.
     
  7. t3rR0r

    t3rR0r Notebook Evangelist

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    We know that people have baked their standalone GPU before, but the problem here is that the GPU is soldered onto the mobo... which probably complicates matters quite a bit more
     
  8. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    There's at least one user that has baked their motherboard before. Don't think it was a Gateway owner. They mentioned something about covering the non GPU bits in foil or something like that.
     
  9. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Ya there were a few people around the internet that have done it to their laptops successfuly.

    Pg 8 http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606658&page=8


    Well, I just woke up aand I'm hungry for 4006258RMotherboard w/PM965 w/HDMI/1394/eSata/RAID. I'll report back in a few hours after I put everything back together.
     
  10. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Guys.....

    It worked...

    I will post pictures in a few minutes.
     
  11. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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  12. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    haha :D that is funny (is it true though, did somebody put their whole notebook in an oven?).
     
  13. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Hehe, these pics are off of my cell phone, so they suck but you can make out a few things.

    So folks, when your notebook dies on you, don't give up put it in the oven. Also a message to all the people getting black screens in games. I think the soldering on some p6860's was sub par, if your graphics card does fail, don't sell it for parts, try this first.
     

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    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Woah.

    It's advice like that which gets people in trouble. Put the motherboard, or if GPU is socketed, GPU, in the oven. :p
     
  15. xxERIKxx

    xxERIKxx Notebook Deity

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    Very nice.
     
  16. TnG2903

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    :)), congratulation.
    Maybe some day I'll try this^^ (when I have nothing to lose)
     
  17. Maverick79

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    Took note of this trick.
     
  18. yotano211

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    omg wow lol, i have been laughing for over 5 min nonstop. this is the best thread i have read in months. i have a 6831 model so if the motherboard ever fails i will do this. i have non thing to lose with trying this when the time comes.

    so give us some details on the process that you did, for how long did you put it inside and the temp. it was at.

    i think everyone with a 6*** or 7*** series model should give this person some REP points.
     
  19. yotano211

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    omg wow lol, i have been laughing for over 5 min nonstop. this is the best thread i have read in months. i have a 6831 model so if the motherboard ever fails i will do this. i have non thing to lose with trying this when the time comes.

    so give us some details on the process that you did, for how long did you put it inside and the temp. it was at.

    i think everyone with a 6*** or 7*** series model should give this person some REP points.
     
  20. t3rR0r

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    Congrats Sauce... ill probably contact you if I ever feel the need to bring some heat to my mobo.... and that link about the guy who baked his whole laptop.... are you serious? lol... that reallly sucks
     
  21. elijahblake

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    i'll add rep when i see the boot screeen lol
     
  22. WysockiSauce

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    Hehe, sure I can show you the boot screen but I don't have any pics from when it was broken. This isn't really a trick it's called reflow soldering ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_soldering) What do you think they do to fix those refurbished mobos.

    Just about every tech forum has a thread about it, fixes all pcb's that have bad soldering or have gone through too many heat cycles. So the soldering in phones, tvs, almost all computer components can be fixed this way.

    I personally preheated my oven to 200c and left the mobo in there for 8 minutes supported by aluminum balls but it lost alot of heat when I opened the door so it wasn't constant. Let it cool for an hour then put everything back together.

    So far it has survived a 3 hour WoW session. Max 49/47c cpu 69c gpu

    Also now that I know there is a soldering problem in the laptop the next time this happens I'll probably take it to a pro with one of those reflow ovens. Maybe it will be a longer term fix.
     
  23. elijahblake

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    neat trick
     
  24. massive77

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    i can't believe the guy that backed his WHOLE laptop.. that has to be one of the funniest things I have ever heard in my entire life.. WOW!



    Great job on the post! Glad it worked!
     
  25. rot112

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    so can yu post some pics of the boot screen please. I'm going to do this 2morro. Im ordering my M17x soon but i wanna try this out first
    :)
     
  26. rot112

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    Ok so i did it.

    I preheated my oven to 385F for about 3 minutes.

    I put aluminum foil across the pan, then i propped the mb up with foil balls. The i just put it in the oven. Put it there for 9 minutes and a few seconds. Took it out right away, put it in my parents room floor where its pretty cool.

    Then i let it cool for about 15-20 minutes.

    Put my gateway 6860FX back together. Ran windows 7, at first i was scared cuz i still did'nt see the windows aero glass feature. Thought i went in to control panel and saw it was set to basic.

    So i changed it to AERO and amazingly IT WORKED!!!!!~~~!!!!

    Then i went on and installed call of duty modern warfare 2. :)!!!! It worked wonderfully thank god. Now i can play all my games again. If anyone is thinking of doing this. I highly reccomend it.

    Hints:

    Remove the black plastic sheets from your MB, there should be a few.

    Put aside an entired day to do this as it took me about 4 hours.

    Take you sweet time, don't go any mistakes, any can be fatal to your laptop.

    And last, have faith, this will most likely work :).

    Oh and you can put the plastic sheets bak on after so don't ruin them.

    :)
     
  27. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Wow, congrats on baking your mobo. :) Mine is still running fine after I baked it 2 weeks ago. Baking is much better than putting down $400 for a new mobo. Still wan't to see my boot screen? ;)
     
  28. chillerman625

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    Is this supposed to be a temporary solution or permanent? I know using unconventional methods to fix machines work sometimes, but not for the long run in my experience.

    For example, when my printer wasn't working one time I pounded on it with my fist until it worked. A couple weeks later it died.
     
  29. Maverick79

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    Thats muscle power. This is more of a logical fix done at home. Call it QA/QC done by consumer.
     
  30. WysockiSauce

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    Well technically it should be a permanent fix, although I doubt that by sticking it in the oven you could improve on the original solders before they cracked so I suppose it will last for about as long as I have owned the laptop so far (1.5 years and then I'll do it again).
     
  31. KGann

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    Fantastic thread. Never had any problems with my notebook mobo, but if I do, now I know what to do first.

    Pretty cool thread. +Rep
     
  32. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    my fx went lights out two weeks ago, are you guys serious on this ?

    can anyone point to a guide of taking the thing apart.
     
  33. Omexis

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    There's a sticky thread for the disassembly of all p78xx's.
     
  34. peckinpah

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    Before people start claiming that any motherboard problem can be fixed this way, as well as curing cancer, heart disease, and diabetes, i though I would share my experience.

    I will admit that i tried this method for the motherboard on my laptop, and it didn't work. But i think i have an explanation for the high reported success rate.

    It's such an embarrassing thing to try (baking your motherboard in the oven) that it's not surprising that only the people who it worked for are willing to admit they did it. Reminds me a little bit of people who wear copper bracelets or take coffee enemas to attempt to cure cancer. Who on earth is gonna admit that they tried something as bizarre as that unless the procedure was successful?

    So yeah, I tried it, but no luck. YMMV.
     
  35. WysockiSauce

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    Sad to hear it didn't work, what kind of problems were you having with the laptop?
     
  36. idiotpilot

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    I can't imagine many people are doing this.
     
  37. Maverick79

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    If it cant get fixed then bake it. Is that what this thread is for, I dont think so. Baking is done for certain GPU issues here.
     
  38. WWar3434

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    Interesting method, will have to remember this if I have any issues. Congtrats to the people who tried this method and it worked.
     
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    >.> I still think using a heat gun would be a more dummy proof method of doing this, but guess no one has tried it that way yet.
     
  40. arstron

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    Well I have a 6860 that hasnt worked in 6 months, I will take it apart here at work in a little bit and give the heat gun a try, if that dont work i'll try baking it this weekend.
     
  41. WysockiSauce

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    Well just an hour ago I got some artifacts and a shutdown. Now I'm getting artifacts in windows (at least it boots with the driver enabled). Fix lasted about 2 months, I'll probably bake it again in a few weeks, really don't have time for it now, I'll let you know how it goes. I haven't handled a heat gun but it actually blows hot air in the direction you point it correct? If so make sure you don't blow the solder right off the motherboard.
     
  42. WysockiSauce

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    Ok well I woke up this morning and actually did the fix. Got it working again but I don't know for how long. Left it in the oven for 10minutes at 410 F. Cross your fingers so you don't see me posting in here for a while. :p
     
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    Well...it happened to me too i started getting the BSOD's again lol...ah well i just bought a G51vx and put my x7800 in there so im good :). Selling my FX btw for 550 if anyone is interested pm me :p.The gpu can't be used for gaming or it will crash but it will last for a good while on normal and work just fine .
     
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    I can report partial success with this. I started getting artifacts and strange colors in 3d apps for a couple months and then I couldn't get anything at all on screen. After reading about others' success with this, I decided I had nothing to lose. I baked my 6860fx's mobo with tin foil wrapped around everything except a cut-out around the GPU. Eight min's @ 385degF. Now I can play 3d games for about 30 mins before I start to see strange colors, and can do work on the desktop seemingly indefinately.

    The hardest part of the whole process was keeping tabs on all the screws so that I would be able to put it back together correctly. Additionally, the very small ribbon cables (specifically the ones that attach to the power board and bluetooth card) were kind of difficult/delicate to work with. However, it was definately worth doing even if I only get a few more months out of it.
     
  45. WysockiSauce

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    Since my last post I actually did this one more time, I thought that maybe the temperature wasn't high enough to actually reflow it.

    I preheated to 490 F (which ofc dropped after I opened the oven), and then tried to keep it at 450 F for 10 or 12 minutes. Let it cool inside the oven, with the door open a bit.

    I was so scared after pulling it out. Motherboard changed color and got warped a little bit. When I was putting it back together I was sure it wouldn't work, but it did. It looks like I might just have to invest into a heat gun and ir thermometer though since it will be much easier and I wont risk damaging other components.