Best P-7811FX GPU Driver?

^ Topic says all.. Search doesn't work like I would assume..

I saw this one posted:

http://laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20271

and in that thread they were talking about a different driver:

Xfastet's 177.85

Anyone test them both or can recommend a different one? I'm still using factory drivers.. I wonder if a new driver would make a big difference..

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=295791

177.92 works perfectly for me, and is the most updated.

Just an FYI that link was posted like 2.5hours ago and was half-way down the page, next time try to do a more thorough search.

 

I'm currently using Xfastet's 177.85 driver, and it boosted my 3Dmarks score by about 200 marks. Havn't had any problems with it myself

 

Can you toss a link to that Driver?

 

here ya go those are the drivers for vista 64 bit. if you need a different set, go to www.laptopvideo2go.com and click on drivers. you will need to download the modded .inf file as well.

instructions for how to install the drivers here

 

Will I notice a performance difference between that and the factory drivers?

 

i dunno. i am using the 177.89 drivers. i noticed an increase in stability, and a little bit of an idle temp increase with them, but i am about to try the 177.92 drivers after hearing all the praise being sung about them.

 

Ah.. well let me know.

So that driver sweeper.. is that a good program to keep installed?

 

YES! as a matter of fact, when you uninstall video drivers, run driver sweeper (set to clean up the nvidia display drivers) and reboot before installing the new drivers (if you didnt know this already)

 

Just a quick question.. when that guide tells you to delete the video drivers from Programs and Features.. is it 'NVIDIA Drivers' the thing I delete?

May sound stupid.. but my last desktop's MOBO was Nvidia and I had to be cautious about what I deleted lol..

 

177.92's are very nice.

 

yes indeed.

 

Okay when I click on that it brings up:

- Remove all NVIDIA drivers, including Display
- Remove all NVIDIA drivers, except Display
- Remove only the following:
[] NVIDIA Display Driver
[] NVIDIA High Def Audio Driver

I'm assuming I click the Nvidia Display Driver only...

 

correct again

thanks for the rep and compliment Zeus.

 

Well just installed it. Thanks a ton Diablo, rep added

 

I can't get Driver Sweeper to run in 64. Are you going to Safe Mode?

I installed the 177 over the original and only reaches 8700 while overclocked.
Do you think clean install would improve? Yes lazy.

How far can we OC, any guess?

 

I didn't have any problem running it.. I wasn't in safe mode either.

 

alright....time to post these benchies. tests were done by uninstalling the old (177.89 driver) and then using driver sweeper to clean up the registry from the driver files, and then installing the new drivers (177.92) followed by a reboot before testing.

Before:

at stock clock speeds


177.89 driver at stock 9800 gts clock speeds (600/800/1500)


After:

at stock clock speeds


177.92 driver at stock 9800 gts clock speeds

 

Woopie ... I clock up and speed goes down.

 

try clocking your core clock speeds and your shaders down a little. if you are clocking up and getting a lower performance, thats a surefire sign that you are above the cards 'tolerance'

 

You're running at 1280x854..not 1280x1024. Why? Default 3dmark06 is 1280x1024.

 

My stable clocks are listed in my signature.. they'll work perfectly for you. However, the card can still be pushed further. But, no need cause then you'd lose stability. Unless you're looking to smash some benchmarks, no need to clock any higher.

your 3dmark will jump to 9700-9800 or so. Maybe even break 10k. Ignore diablo's posting..as he is on the 6860, and is not running at 1280x1024 like yourself. His scores will be considerably higher.

And if ya break the 9500 mark with stable clocks, rep me

 

because my native resolution on my laptop is 1440x900. the only way i get 1280x1024 for 3dmark is by hooking up the laptop to an external monitor.

 

I realized the model after the fact..sorry hook up to your LCD

 

maybe i dont want to. ill do it eventually, but as of right now, im not one that really cares about benchmarks unless they equate to real-world performance.

besides, im about to watch snatch on my 32" lcd.

 

Great flick! I like meat and potatoes.

 

Will do. I installed the original again. Ran Sweeper as Admin and it worked but I have factory setup and it keeps installing the original driver. I'll have to zip the original video driver maybe.

 

not sure what instrustions you're following to install the new drivers. But here's the no-fail method. Open device manager, go to video adapters, right click the 9800m and uninstall. Tell it to also uninstall driver software(click box). Click Ok.. when it uninstalls, reboot into safe mode where you will go check to make sure it installed the Generic VGA adapter..If so, run driver sweeper and analyse video drivers..then clean. If still showing 9800m, repeat step one, and reboot to safe mode again, then driver sweeper. If you're installing 177.85 from Xfastest, just run the setup.exe. If it gives you any questions about unsigned drivers just tell it to allow install. If you're using any other driver, just do the have disk install method pointing device manager to the .ini you copied into the new driver directory.

I believe someone posted on here that you should run driver sweeper before booting into safe mode.. I've never done that, til I gave it a shot last night..and it doesn't work as smoothely. Actually, it causes drivers to be left behind..which you don't want. So, run sweeper from safe mode

EDIT: My 200th POST

 

Rep for E-wrecked and Diablo for their help and winsome personalities.
Can't rep Diablo so soon ... gotta spread the love around.

177.92 is what I am using. I did not do safe mode for sweeper but plan to. This driver with 3d06 drops to 8361 from 8705 with original.

177.85 I have not tried. Based on E-wrecked numbers, I'm going for this version now (while following E-wrecked surgical instructions).

Edit:
Installed 177.85 and 3d06 is 8506 without oc.

What is up with these new drivers not finding nvcpl.dll in system32 folder?

177.85
video card stability test (faster than 3d06 when simply checking if gaining ground)
403 no oc
447 698/900/1600
497 698/998/1798 max gpu temp 77C
Now we're talking turkey.
max gpu temp 70C

I assume E-wrecked numbers are due to his CPU.

 

that's your control panel.. do you have access to the nvidia control panel? Right click your desktop and you should have it on the popup menu. Here's what I suggest.. 177.85, install the latest PhysX from laptopvideo2go.com, and install NV control panel v 6.02. Also, you'll get a couple of errors with cannot find nvsc.dll or something when you boot.. just run msconfig, and remove the errored files from your startup tab.

 

Yep I have cntl panel so it is probably a first boot issue.

 

PhysX newest release 8.08.18: http://files.laptopvideo2go.com/physx/physx_8.08.18.exe

6.02 Nvidia Control Panel(a must for OC'ing): http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19402

And who in the heck started the rumor that 177.92 is the best driver for this computer? They should be shot. Just cause laptopvideo2go's site has a bunch of downloads for the file, doesn't mean it's the best driver..by ANY stretch of the means. I'm posting 2 pics, both include no OC of CPU or GPU. Just running the 2 drivers head 2 head. Clean installs, with driversweeper. You decide.

Then if you see what I see, download Xfastest 177.85 drivers here:
http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid=12852&extra=page=1
Yes, it's in japanese..no the driver isn't.

177.92 3dmark is to the left, and 177.85 is to the right.. about 350 point difference. And while benchmarks are artificial tests, if it is that drastic testing..then imagine real world performance difference. And let me save you all some time, I've tested all new/beta releases from laptop/nvidia since 175.80 on this laptop.. these are the best by far. Well..175.80 which is the stock driver performs rather well..but has powermizer, and doesn't OC too well. And physx doesnt work on it, if i remember correctly.

 

They are assisted by it, for sure. Lemme run an OC'd 3dmark for ya..and you can compare apples to apples. I'll use same clocks you just did. Oh, and so ya know.. you can push you core up to about 750 or so.. memory to about 1080, and shader to 1960. HOWEVER, not all at the same time. That should max out your OC experience..and your video driver will likely reset if ya try those clocks together. But I'lll save you the trouble of finding them all by yourself. Typically, if your core vs shader is a 1=2.5 ratio, your good. Example, 700 core = 1750 shader. I usually push shader just a *bit* further than that and that way it gives a little extra *umph*. Your memory clock will provide the least results in benchmark difference. But, if you keep it 950-998 you will be stable. Just toy with the other clock combinations. Lemme run 3dmark and Ill post back in a few minutes.

 

So I should install the 177.85?

Do I do it the same way I installed the 177.92? Uninstall driver / Sweep it.. reboot.. manual install the driver from the folder?

 

Ugh. Read back to previous page. I give you a quick rundown. And its uninstall, reboot safe mode, driver sweep, reinstall, reboot.

 

And is safemode accessed through F8? I haven't tried yet on the P-7811fx lol

 

Yep

 

What version of 3DMark are you guys using? Trying to find a good one to get in on this process. Looking at 3DMark06 basic but it looks a bit old.

 

Most are still using 06. All references in this thread are 06.

 

So.. Wrecked.. do I install the new driver in safemode or reboot then install it after running the sweeper?

 

Zeus, I'm here so will answer. (I'm not as dumb as I look) Reboot and verify that the generic video driver is installed. Then install new driver.

 

after uninstalling the other driver you have boot into safemode run driver sweeper then reboot again then install the driver then reboot again.

 

Okay well.. I didn't reboot again after I sweeped it so I ended up installing the driver in safe mode.. then I restarted my PC and received a RunDLL error:

Error Loading C:\Windows\system32\nvsvc.dll

Could this be because I installed it in Safe Mode?

 

Darn still getting nvcpl.dll error on reboot but do have control panel. Something is calling this and not finding it.
When I before allowed the originally let the factory driver install and then did not let sweeper uninstall that one file it did not give an error. I hate to go through all that again.

Odd crap with nTune. Once a profile is made and saved I get one shot at "apply." If I don't answer "yes" to load this profile at startup I can't apply that profile on reboot. Apply button is mysteriously missing ...

Edit: Got the Apply access by going to "Create Profiles" and "Custom" and the apply button pops up again. It will remain available when going to a profile. But when apply is pushed the clocks do not change.

Hey, you have to go to Start Menu>nVidia>Profiles and get the little popup to select your profile. It works.

 

No..thats normal with the xfastest driver. It's a desktop driver modded for laptop use, and that is the same error Ive had. Click your start button, type in "msconfig" no ""s.. Enter. Click ok, or whatever. Then go to your startup tab, and scroll down and uncheck the box beside the nvsvc.dll file, so it wont try to load at boot. Restart, done.

Syn..I had same problem, due to my attempt to drive sweep before rebooting to safe mode. It took a couple reboots.. but what I ended up doing was uninstalling the video driver again, and all software, including the 6.02 control panel.(which doesnt uninstall with the driver, you must uninstall thru control panel, or by running the 6.02 control panel install program again and it will prompt you.) So, clean both off, then just boot to safe mode drive sweep, and before you reboot make sure you reinstall the Video driver. After reboot, install new control panel.
Don't forget to go back into msconfig and disable the nvsvc.dll - I ran the 3dmark06 for ya earlier..but it wouldnt lemme post..so I'm posting below. I returned that 7811 cause of a dead pixel, otherwise would have posted a couple hours ago.

 

I ran this 3dmark06 @ 698/998/1798 using driver 177.85 from Xfastest, after clean install of driver and control panel No OC'ing on the GPU or CPU. By the way, you can clock the 9800m to about 733/1003/1840 and still get good 3dmark06 results. The clocks I gave you are for *stable* useage, such as Crysis or COD4..since their GPU intensive. Some cards are stable with higher clocks, but those are safe clocks and stable. No need to break anything Here's the 3dmark results below..

 

E-wrecked, I like the driver but was not able to get through rthdribl_1_2 without locking up at your speeds.

I have made it through 650/850/1700 so far. Not that rthdribl is ultimate or anything but it should make it through the series.

Even though it is a desktop driver (I'll take your word) it clocks down nicely when not stressed. That is a good thing.

So you are gonna' make me reinstall all this crap? I'll be really good at it with all this practice.

All I need is to get rid of the .dll error, hope I can find a way. Everything else works fine.

Edit: Just made it through rthdribl @1920x1200 full screen
700/850/1750
Ironically my 3d06 score went up.
Max gpu temp 71c

 

you can try just uninstalling ctrl panel.. but really, it only takes 5 minutes and 2 reboots to install control panel and driver. You dont need to uninstall physx. And what the heck is rthdribl? I'll look for it. Oh, btw.. you wouldnt be playing crysis at 1920x1200. Resolution does matter with OC'ing. Try this, 702/899/1788.. you're really at the point where just a little bit more won't make a big difference.. 700 or so is ideal for core, maybe 950s for memory, and close to 1800 shader..I'd err on the side of less than more.

Edit: As for RTHDRIBL, it is dx9based..and likely your games will be dx10.. that's going to make a bit of a difference when it comes to clock settings, unless you intend to just run DX9..which wouldn't make any sense.

Edit 2: And yes, you may want to spend a couple hours playing with clocks.. I've found that sometimes lower clocks can give higher scores. There's a sweet spot that provides the best of all worlds.. You just gotta find it. PS - Your CPU is about 200 pts higher than before, eh?

 

http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/
It is a nice (no install) video stresser. Reveals pixelation etc. Pretty too.
I was just trying to find something that would lock up (or not).

I'll tweak some more.

 

I think the highest 3dmark I got with stock CPU was like, 9700-9800.. But that was just for pushing the system to see what it could do.. If you're getting a 10--15% gain and stable..that's really all you can ask for.

Ive seen a lot of people that recommend 3dmark03 as a great GPU benchmark and stress tester..unlike 06 it isn't as CPU focused. And you can tell it was made in 03..the graphics are old school

EDIT: Also, just so you know how CPU focused 3dmark06 is, I ran the freestone test and scored a 407 no OC.. I think you were within a few points.