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    CPU upgraded. Problems....

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by rice4u, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    after i upgraded my CPU to a t9300 i started having these problems:

    -I cannot boot from USB anymore.
    -Every time i restart the computer, it shuts down. then after 5 seconds it boots back up. Same thing happens after i make a change in BIOS and exit, shuts down, 5 sec, then start up again.
    -MemTest detects my CPU running at 2690MHZ
    -BIOS detects it at 2400MHZ, but detects it as t9300 2.5ghz

    -I have a 6831FX. Ram is the stock 3GB. MemTest runs fine. 12 hours.
    -i play games fine...
    -prime95 is fine...
    -The OS i am running is XP Pro.

    The only 2 other things i have not yet tried is reinstalling the OS (vista) and or re flash BIOS.

    Anyone that upgraded their CPU have this issue, or similar? any help or idea would be appreciated. thank you in advance.
     
  2. gary_hendricks

    gary_hendricks Notebook Evangelist

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    Some things you can check:

    1) Are your RAM sticks compatible?
    2) It could be a BIOS problem - in fact it does sound like a BIOS problem because its a failure to boot from USB - and other things seem fine.
     
  3. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    the weird thing is, the BIOS works fine with the old CPU (T5450).
     
  4. Wishmaker

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    That is a vital thing. Before you upgraded, did you check if your mobo and BIOS were 100% compatible?
     
  5. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    You can try to upgrade your bios but I think your stuff should already be compatible. Didn't have any problems after my upgrade. :confused:
     
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    PopRoxMimo3 Notebook Deity

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    t8300, t9300, x7800, x9000
    are the 6831fx choices.
     
  7. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    what BIOS version do you have? if its not too much to ask. thanks.
     
  8. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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    When you installed it, did you do a complete power down, shutdown windows (not STANDBY/SLEEP/HIBERNATE), remove the battery AND unplug the the AC power before taking out the old CPU? If not, do those things I mention, put the old processor back in, and turn it on and see if problems go away. If so, then again, do the complete power down, put the new processor back in, turn it on and see if problems reappear.

    Another thing to try is to go into BIOS and reset it to default settings. This should make BIOS redetect devices on the next boot.
     
  9. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    thats some seriously good advise there ^
    still cant rep this guy...
     
  10. E-wrecked

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    Im gonna take a shot in the dark.. did you tighten the screw to lock the CPU? :)
     
  11. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    or thermal paste?
     
  12. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    ohh... good one. Hope he didn't pull a narsnail and use a thermal pad!
     
  13. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    or try to sand off part of the processor. :D
     
  14. E-wrecked

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    Wha? You don't lap the mirrored part?
     
  15. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    confused what u mean on the last part, but there was a topic where one guy said there was something stuck on the processor he bought, and tried sanding it off, just to find out it was part of the processor.
     
  16. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    ....bet he was mad, eh?
     
  17. Kamin_Majere

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    Actually he was a pretty good sport about it. Luckily it actually still works (chalk one up to superior Intel engineering)
     
  18. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for all the advice and humor haha. i haven't been in a forum ever since the days of the socket A and NFS-7.

    today i tried booting off all the 3 USB ports and one worked haha. the one on the left hand side (bottom to be exact) but that is the only one though.

    the screw on the CPU is tight. I tried resetting the BIOS to default, and also re flashed it with no luck.

    The thermal paste... could very well be the issue haha but the problem is i am in the middle of IRAQ due to military and have no access to thermal paste.
    i used part of the gunk from the GPU side and put that on the CPU heh. its kind of ghetto but its that or nothing.

    now... the other day prime95 was stable but today it fails almost instantly. oh well as long as it plays games and do stuff i can live with it till i go home.
     
  19. E-wrecked

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    LOL.. I really hope you're kidding as well.. otherwise you explained everything. If that's the case though, I suggest scorpion goo as a backup. Or, even some monkey snot from a motor tech. :)
     
  20. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    here we go....
    without thermal paste you will damage your rig, no way around it.
    not sure what that means, but i think he used part of the thermal pad from the chipset on the cpu. if that is the case it is a close number two to the core sanding.
     
  21. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Thermal paste is the best way to go about it................and the safest too.........i say this because...........a friend of mine used some other wiered goo or pase and it didn.t do the trick.....rather his USB drives stopped working..............
     
  22. E-wrecked

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    you're better off with absolutely NONE than sticking some stuff between there that doesnt belong. If you're in Iraq in the military, then Im sure there's some tech nerds there with AS5.. Any comp guru has it if they repair computers. Go find an Air Force pencil pusher repairing a desktop or something.. OR steal a desktop and steal the thermal paste from its' CPU :) just dont get caught.

    +rep n00dles for initial assumption.
    dang it..remind me in 8 hours to rep you :)
     
  23. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    a dried up thermal paste is totally useless, get the real thing or just box it.
     
  24. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    the thermal grease is used to make better contact between the CPU and Heatsink which will help heat transfer from the CPU to Heatsink. during gaming and prime95 my temps only reach around 58-60 at the most, i figured it would be fine.

    i have never known thermal paste to cause strange problems like this, but at this point i guess that is the only thing left i can hope is the problem. i will put up the solution when i find out what is causing all this.

    thanks for all the inputs, and if anyone else has experienced anything similar to this, please let me know.
     
  25. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    i'll take that rep now :D :yes:
     
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    And the rep you got :)
     
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    rice4u, you used the gummy, blue stuff off the other chipset underneath the heatsink? And put that on the CPU, right?
     
  28. N00d13s

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    haha, thanks.
     
  29. rice4u

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    yep. that was what i used for a day or two then...


    after taking your advice i managed to get my hands on some arctic silver!! (don't worry how i got it *cough*) and guess what!?!?!

    i boot up the computer, restart it, and.... *click* shuts off. 5 sec later... then turns back on.

    *the click is the same noise it makes if you hold the power botton down to do a force shutdown*

    its prime and memtest stable............... theres absolutely nothing wrong with this thing, but the way it restarts is annoying me to death.
     
  30. E-wrecked

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    Does it post the bios? Load vista? Did u put a clean thermal pad back on the chipset? That is crucial. It would explain it all.
     
  31. rice4u

    rice4u Notebook Enthusiast

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    Problem SOLVED!!!

    the resolution was flash your bios with the /bbl and /c switch.... i edit the .bat file that came with the BIOS and added the 2 extra switches in there.

    the switches reprograms the boot block and resets the options for the BIOS after it flashes it. I hope one day this will help someone out.
     
  32. Kamin_Majere

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    wow wait... you edited the BIOS?

    What all can you do to them?!?