Centrino 2 15 incher?

Well we've all seen gateways new 17 centrino 2 laptop....any news on the new 15 incher?

 

We have all also seen how big of a flop the 7811 is.

So if anyone at gateway has any brains, they would fix the problems on their premier seller first, then worry about a 15 incher later.

That being said, a gateway monteniva 15 incher is just gunna make me jealous

 

lol... a flop? speak for yourself... oh wait, do you even have one?

 

lol i think the specs sheet is great. but i agree with the guy, looking at these forums and all its problems i'd not buy it.

 

I don't think people realize how much more often people who have problems post than people who don't have problems. More importantly, I don't think people realize how many of those problems posted about the 7811 are not actually specific to the 7811 at all, but more have to do with the OS, software, or drivers. I've had 0 problems on my laptop that were not OS/software related.

I've seen only two legitimate problems:
1) Probably 1-3% of 7811 owners have had some ghosting on their screens, which is easily fixed with an exchange.
2) Some people's GPU's get hot, which isn't actually a 7811 problem at all, but has to do with the 9800GTS's integration into the 7811. Again, easily fixed with an exchange. Unfortunately while some people's temps are a problem, others are just paranoid and don't realize that their temps, as hot as they may be, are normal for a gaming laptop, and furthermore can be solved by such things as a laptop cooler or even just elevation of the back of the laptop. I just saw someone post that their laptop was freezing up and hot when used on a wooden desk. YOUR DESK IS WOODEN, wood does not conduct heat well and would not disperse the heat away from the laptop. Get used to having heat with a gaming laptop, and learn how to deal with it appropriately.

You might think that I'm just defending this laptop because I own it, but believe me, I change out laptops way too often to be deadset on one that I don't truly love. I on the other hand think that people like Lakjin are just reassuring themselves about why they don't actually own one (but maybe wish that they did). Either way, unless you owned this laptop and hated it and returned it, I don't think you would really know whether or not it's a flop. People post problems on these forums much more than they post how much they love the laptop, and using that as a representation of its percentage of problems is simply not accurate.

 

Im sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

Tell ya what, just for you, I will use the search button to find the dozens (hundreds?) of threads on this forum alone about problems with the 7811. Then we can sit down count how many times, on average, a person that posted on these forums had to exchange the 7811 to get one that works. As an added bonus, I will even let you tell the OP of each thread to stop making new threads on a topic that has been posted multiple times before him/her.

It would be great to see Gateway's (or BB's) records (financial mainly) on 7811 transactions. I wonder how many 7811 were returned to Gateway (or BB), and how much $$$, if any at all (it all depends on what GW/BB profit margin was to being with), Gateway (or BB) has made on these so far.

I dont recall ever hearing of a major, wide spread problem with the P-6860FX. I wish I could say the same about the 7811FX.

 

You didn't hurt my feelings at all. I just find your comments and slander slightly naive considering you don't actually own the laptop you're talking about.

I think you need to reread my post and what I said about the number of problem posts vs the number of compliment posts in regards to the laptop. I'm also glad that you learned how to use the search button. At least you took the opportunity to learn something from me. P.S. this topic has not been posted elsewhere, (use the search button if you don't believe me), so why would I want to tell the OP that. I wouldn't ask for your permission regardless .

You didn't hear of a problem for the P-6860FX? Wow, that is amazing evidence that the 7811 has so many problems, I don't think I can go against that. You win man, you win. Lol.

 

See red in above quoted text.

 

Maybe you should be the one doing the rereading; I dont recall ever saying that this thread was posted before. Which it has by the way.

 

1) Show me someone who had to exchange more than once, and I'll show you an idiot. BB offers to open the computer and check it right next to you in store.

2) Sorry where did I go blaming so many things? Your desperate attempt to place words in my mouth is "not getting you anywhere." But good try. Theres a big difference between me saying that these problems aren't 7811 specific, and me trying to divert blame. You apparently wouldn't be smart enough to see that. I also never said that nothing is the 7811's fault, learn to read.

You also can't really believe that 99% of the lockups aren't GPU based. 99% of them happen during GPU use, and all are affected by Nvidia driver upgrades or downgrades. You're right though, that MUST be the 7811's fault.

And thanks for letting me know I can make speculations. I'm glad to hear that coming from someone like you, if you catch my drift. But anyway, like I said, I don't need your permission. As far as it "not getting me anywhere," I'm just enjoying it, so thank you.

 

But I'm guessing that even though you took that out of the blue, it was just a "general statement" all of the sudden. Right?

 

Try again. I hear third times the charm.

If you still dont understand, I can always spell it out for you.

 

You do realize that if I were to tell the OP of each thread to stop making duplicates, that would have to mean that each thread is a duplicate. Funny, even you don't seem to understand the retarded stuff you say.

Oh and thanks for addressing all of the other points that I just ripped you apart on.

Thx. Thx. << Am I cool now?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=296332
I really hope this guy doesnt go for another exchange. 6 hours drive just for a laptop that will probably just flop on him again.

 

Patience is always a virtue.

 

Your idiot. Surely, you saw that coming (I hope).

Oh but why must I be so patient when I so enjoy the ludicrous statements that you actually truly mean to be serious? Please hurry, I'll take entertainment over virtue anyday.

 

I never said you said those things. I was mocking you...need me to spell it out for you?

Right, because that is not trying to divert the blame at all.

 

Insults can be an integral part of a debate/disagreement, but you know you have lost an argument and have nothing left to say when all you do in a rebuttal is use insults.

Im done with you.

Thx.

 

Mocking me? It's obvious you meant your statements to be true. Just like your statements suddenly becoming "general", now things that I've proven you wrong on are suddenly only meant to be "mocking me." Even if you didn't mean them to be serious statements, the way you used them wouldn't constitute "mocking" at all. Lol, sad.

Diversion of blame is something you also seem to not understand (surprise surprise). Diverting blame from something would assume that the blame could rightfully be placed on the original target, in this case the 7811. I'm pointing out that it could in fact not rightfully be placed on the 7811, but rather only on the GPU hardware, which itself is not specific to the 7811. See the difference, or is this too much for you?

You know you've won an argument when the person you're arguing with runs. It's ok, much easier than admitting you're wrong. I guess it WAS too much for you.

P.S. maybe I wouldn't have insulted you if you had actually responded to my points instead of quoting proverbs in a pathetic delay. Understand that it wasn't a rebuttal, because you didn't even respond to my points at the time, nor did you respond to ALL of them here. Weak.

You're welcome. Second time you've started an argument with me that you couldn't win.

 

lol this is funny

 

I am sure there are some people that are having some issues, I for one am very happy with my 7811. I still have the first one, no exchanges, very pleased with the feature set for the money and runs the games I play with no problems. I do wish they would enable raid support but otherwise a very happy camper and money well spent.

 

BB makes maybe $50 per unit on a laptop, when they are on sale they lose upwards of $150 most times.

Big Hops(Best Buy Employee)

 

HEY HEY HEY

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Thanks for highjacking my thread with your stupid argument....

Answer my original post!! lol

 

Sorry =(

No, no word on a gateway monteniva 15 incher.

 

Could you shed some light on how much money Bestbuy is losing because of the how many times the 7811FX has been returned? This could clarify if the problem is as widely spread as suspected or not.

I really hope Gateway works on getting the problems fixed with the 7811FX. Its such a popular laptop, and at a steal price. That thread that mentioned how to fix lockups for some people on the 7811FX is a good start.

 

Another very happy 7811 owner here (for almost three weeks). No lockups or freezes yet. I have not had to update any drivers or change any settings. I did remove the bloatware. I also installed Mozilla and a few games. Great laptop. Extremely happy with the purchase. I even went back to Best Buy and got the $200 off since I bought it a week before the Labor Day/Week sale (and no issues doing it, handed over my receipt, discount applied, done).

 

You could also help others out by shedding light on which BB you got yours from.

If I had to estimate, I would say a good 10-20% people have already exchanged theirs. It may be more, may be less, I dont know, its just an estimate based on the idea that Gateway probably using multiple suppliers for parts of their notebook - one supplier must just suck, for example, on LCDs.

Glad you aren't part of that percentage.