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    Crisis Bios Recovery for 7805u (dead laptop) HELP!

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by ONE_J, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. ONE_J

    ONE_J Notebook Consultant

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    hi,

    I messed up with the bios of my 9800m gts and did something that screwed up my laptop.

    I pretty knowledgeable about crisis bios flashing casue I am a hardware/software modder, but I am serious trouble this time.

    basically what I am trying to do is to reflash the bios of my 7805u with the crisis bios recovery utility.
    I found many around and have tried the most different combinations of files ect.

    I know how to activate the bios recovery procedure on the 7805u by holding FN + ESC and power on, the pc reads the floppy just fine and I hear beeps as usual when the pc is about to flash the bios in crisis mode. once the pc read the bios file in the floppy it stops and for about 5 minutes keeps sending out random beeps, but no flash is being performed at all.

    I power down the system after 20 minutes that has been on flashing and nothing I keep getting the same error code. 1 long been and two short ones. Which in the bios beep codes list shows up as “bad video” or “video error”.

    I thought the most various and different scenarios.

    1) the system bios is fine, in this case all my attempts to flashing the system did not success, therefore the bios is still intact. So basically I shouldn’t mess with the system bios.
    2) The problem could be the video bios (I am almost pretty certain about this), therefore the system powers on but it does not allow me to see anything. I cannot even blind flash because the keyboard does not accept input whatsoever and basically because the system does not boot at all. The only thing that recognizes is the crisis recovery mode (thank God for now).

    for the second case I bought this device here: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4H.html

    which is coming in today where I work. I’ve been expecting it for a week now.

    My theory is that, by plugging in PCIE video card in it, the system might bootup and allow me to reflash the primary video card. This is the only reason I bought this device for. Basically out of desperation. ( I do not intend to send out the laptop to gateway unless I’ve tried them all, and honestly in the past I went through worse with modding hardware/software and this looks to me totally doable.

    In the past I’ve had this same issue with desktop systems where I screw up the video card’ bios and am left with two options depending on the severity of the situation:

    If it’s not two bad usually I can just blind flash the card by just putting in a bootable floppy diskette or cd and typing in the strings in the command prompt even though I cant’s see a thing. After that the recovery is 100% good.

    If it was a more serious problem (like in this same exact case), the system does not even boot to windows/dos and does not accept keyboard input, therefore I need a secondary PCI/AGP/PCIE video card to put in the desktop then, everything works fine. I am suddenly able to enter dos and reflash the primary cad like normal.

    In my actual case with the laptop, the fact that I cannot access a secondary video card cuts down almost all my possibilities, because I cannot type in anything. The system will not boot at all. The laptop powers on, gives the beep error code message then it just sits there.

    The reason I bought this: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4H.html
    Is to maybe being able to simulate the same scenario I’ve had before in a desktop system.

    But something tells me that maybe it’s the system bios that is screwed up. So I have been trying to reflash with no success.

    My in success though comes from only one factor. That the bios for the p-7805u/7811fx is 2MB in size and obviously 2MB will never fit into a floppy disk, no matter how much you empty the floppy disk.

    So I tried creating USB pen drives/ USB flash drives, but nothing it doesn’t really work this way.

    So I found on the net a version of Crisis Bios Recovery that allows you to compress the bios down to 1.2MB, this way I am able to put in the flash recovery tools in the floppy disk as well and this is why so far the floppy disk seems a very reliable way to proceed.

    I think though that maybe the whole compression of the bios is sort of screwing it up, casue after the floppy has finished reading the bios it just gives random beeps for 5 minutes but no flash is being performed.

    I tried doing something, I put in a bios from another laptop that was only 1024MB and after reading the file, the fans on the CPU started going like crazy, indicating that a bios flash was being performed. Although I think that the flash must have been interrupted at some point because the fans kept going on for more than 10 minutes. So I powered down the system and then back to the same error code.

    So then I tried creating a bootable CD with the same image for the floppy (but with the compressed bios for the 7805u) and it worked. The Crisis Recovery mode was able to read the CD and did the same procedure. The only problem is that again, the bios in the CD was the compressed one.

    So I looked around on google and found a applications like UltraIso and MagicISO and many others, that allow me to edit the 144MB.img file where the boot sector for the floppy is stored.

    If I burn the 144MB.img or 144MB.iso into a cd I am able to boot up in crisis bios recovery mode.

    But whenever I edit the boot sector image file ( to insert the non compressed version of the bios which is 2MB) it screws it up and the cd does not boot in crisis recovery mode.

    Can somebody out there PLEASE HELP me create an image file, *.iso *.img *.ima or whatever format I can burn into a cd therefore being able to reflash the bios in my system?

    I hope I’ve given enough information although in a very scattered way. I apologize.

    I found a way to drastically lower the temps of the 9800m gts by volt mod, but I was eager and wanted more, therefore I screwed up.

    The last successful flash of the video bios allowed me to have temps no higher than 58 degrees celcius under full load in assassin’s creed for more than an hour. But again as I said I srewed up cause I wanted more.

    I will post the files for anyone to try out (the good ones) to successfully flash the video card and lower the temps, but I first need to resuscitate mine. Please help.

    Thank you
     
  2. Syngensmyth

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    Try PM to johnksss. He dug himself out of hole with the 7811 BIOS. I think it was in this thread but there were so many threads in the beginning. It is easier to try PM.
     
  3. ONE_J

    ONE_J Notebook Consultant

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    hi Syngensmyth,

    thanks for your reply. I apologize for the brutality of the question but, how do I PM to someone? unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable on forumus posts.
    thanks,
     
  4. banjo

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    Are you sure it's the Bios and not the CMOS? Try resetting your CMOS first. LYK how you make out if you are sucessful.
     
  5. ONE_J

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    I don't know if the CMOS has anything to do with it. but I'll try when I get home.

    thanks
     
  6. banjo

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    That would be your first step. Both have the same type of symptom's. If it is your bios, Check out MyDigitalLife forums. Their tool thred tells you how to make a bootable USB flash. They also have a "modded" bios for the 7811/7805u with a CRCDiskRecovery setup included. Http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthred.php?p=107145

    If you can't find it I have the downloaded bios and instructions how to flash. Check it out, it may be of help. LMK how you make out.

    But, first I would try the CMOS before anything else.LOL!
     
  7. banjo

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    One more try!!! http:forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?p=107145&posted=1.
     
  9. ONE_J

    ONE_J Notebook Consultant

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    I'll try that. thanks

    though, the link doesn't work.

    I received the PE4H adapter to connect an external PCIE video card to a laptop, and rushed home on my lunch break to try it out. no succes on this one. :(

    maybe I need to create one of those USB bootalbe drivers for the PCIE card to be seen during POST, but at this point I doubt it has anything to do with this. it has to be the BIOS. I hope I can flash it with the modded bios you were talking about.

    thanks for your help
     
  10. ONE_J

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    this one works

    I'll try it out when I get home
     
  11. banjo

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    Try this- http//forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?p=107145&posted=1
     
  12. banjo

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    Great-from what I understand it is a dos bootable flash drive with all the files. Has a set of instructions that you have to following when flashing. Hope this works as I hate to see someone "brick" his notebook . LMK hoew you make out.
     
  13. ONE_J

    ONE_J Notebook Consultant

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    thanks! I feel the same way. it was for a good cause even if I started to get greedy about it.

    I'll post my results on voltmodding the 9800m gts once this nightmare is over.

    I'm home now. I will try out the procedure on that link.
     
  14. banjo

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    Do the CMOS thingy first!!
     
  15. TANWare

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    If the video bios is voltmodded he needs to flash, cmos is not an issue. That is the problem with hard modding the video bios, once you trash you have to flash...........
     
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    you're a poet and didnt know it :p
     
  17. ONE_J

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    I know, that's what I am trying to do but I can't find a way to do it.

    all the bioses that I am finding around or the ones already posted in these threads they are all not compatible with my 7805u fx board.

    even if a bios flash would be successful, I would still not be able to see anithing on screen.

    I checked with phoenix bios editor pro 2.2.0.1 all of these bioses and they all contain either intel VGA or nvidia 8800 GTS. but I need one with the 9800m GTS in it. unless the system bios and the video bios are handled separately. which could be an option. the fact that I was able to flash the video bios with nvflash somewhat proves it. In my other HP laptop when I want to modify the video bios I first have to unpack the system bios (rom image) with phoenix bios editor then I look on the temp folder for the option.rom file that belongs to the onboard VGA, then I modify the VGA rom with nibitor then at this point the process is backwards. I re-insert the modified VGA bios into the system bios, buid the image then flash. any other way than this one will result into bricking the laptop. but of course crisis bios recovery always allowed me to resucitate the dead laptop.

    not in this case, because the BIOS for all 78xx models is 2048/2057 MB. which sucks casue it does not fit into a floppy disk. if I'd have a2.88MB floppy disk drivve I'd be able to create the image file by extracting it from the floppy and burn it into a bootable CD. I think this is the only way it would work.

    unless the BIOS has 1MB of crap in it that would have to be sorted out with a hex editor and that would be nearly to impossible to figure out.

    why does the BIOS for the 78xx models have 2MB file size? is really all occupied? and why I am not albe to open it with phoenix bios editor? anyone can help?

    thanks
     
  18. banjo

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    You can open it with PBE. Just have to get the newer one 2.2.0.13 at DigitialLife web site. It's 2 MB because it has a .wph & a .rom file plus the flasher. The USB flash drive didn't work I take it.

    Have you read thru the forum as it does have a wealth of information about recovery from a bad flash? I'll take some time this afternoon and see if there might be solution to your problem.

    Those Bios 9C.17.00 are for the 7805u/7811 series laptops. LYK if I find anything else.
     
  19. ONE_J

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    I downloaded PBE 2.2.13 and by opening the 9c.17.00 I saw the 9800m GTS rom file which means that only a successful flash will allow me to resucitate the laptop.

    do you know of a way to extract the ROM and WPH files from these 2MB rom images?

    also do you know where I can find the bios in this thread? http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=312573
    it ha been removed. it belonged to a packard bell ipower GX basically the same model as the 78xx versions but with quad core support. the reason I am looking for this file is because maybe it's only 1MB instead of 2MB.

    thank you for you help
     
  20. banjo

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    I may be wrong as I have never had to do a Bios Crisis Recovery myself. You said you were able to start-up with a CD ? If that's true, then you can make a Bios Crisis recovery bootable CD disk. Then you are not limited to size.

    Also, I don't think you need to include both the WPH AND ROM files on the floopy. From what I read, you just replace the generic bios.whp (contained in the CRCdisk) file with either the rom or wph and flash with that? One file would only be around 1MB plus the flasher and batch file, which is still under 1.44 MB.

    On the site I told you about that file they pointed you to was for a floppy. (For a 7805u bios flash) It was over 2 1/2 MB total, but only because they included both rom and wph file. I think they mention it is best to use a wph for CRC, and rom if you don't have one.

    Am I wrong in thinking this??? :confused: :confused:
     
  21. ONE_J

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    the problem is that all bios versions for the 78xx models have a 2mb filesize. I am talking about the the dos version.

    for example if you unzip the 9c.17 version you'll see that either .wph and .rom for the dos version are 2057kb and 2048kb respectively.

    so I think there should be a way to subtract that even with just a hex editor. but the problem is to know where exactly. this I don't know. I could try by trial and error but I'm not so sure I'll be successful on this operation.

    I aggree with you, it must be that both .wph and .rom images are compressed into one single file. but what doesn't make sense to me is why would the compress both images into one and put extension .whp on one and .rom on the other while clearly it just doesn't make sense.

    unless the bios it is truly a 2bm image, then at this point it seems impossible to me to fit into a floppy thisk.

    I found a version of crisis recovery disk executalbe that allows you to compress the bios image. only this way I was able to flash the image but without success. the PC reads the file from the floppy (at boot) then it start send beep sounds for about 5 minutes at random times and then it just sits without doing anything. the CPU fan doesn't spin at all. which indicates that the flash is not occurring.

    I don't understand how to make the bootable cd. I mean I know how to make it but you have to take a floppy image of the crisis recovery disk and this one is only 1.44mb

    so I flashed the cd with that image but I had the same result I achieved with the floppy disk alone

    so far your help has been great. I was able to download the version of PBE that allows me to open the image rom. thank you banjo
     
  22. banjo

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    OK, finally found the post for someone that did a recovery on their FX7811 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=340173&highlight=Phoenix+Bios+Crisis+Recovery811. It also gives a refenence to download a 1.22 MB Crisis Recovery disk for the FX7811. Probably an older bios then the 9C.17.00 but it moght work enough to get you back in working so you can up-date it to the correct one.

    Also, in the post it has the guy who someone referred you to...JohnKsss. Just right click on his name and you will be able to PM him.(Send a private message) Maybe he can be of better help? Also, if you want you can e-mail me direct and we can go thru a few things. I did download the above mentioned file so if you can't for some reason get it, LMK and I'll e-mail it to you.

    Read the article all the way thru. I guess to recover it takes many tries. Also, the USB Flash must be smaller then 512 MB for it to work.(But the 7811 CRC for a floppy is only 1.2 MB big) I also read that after you make your CRC disc you must rename the config file that is created for boot-up.

    Here's my [email protected]. Don't give up quite yet, I think you really can recover the laptop. :D
     
  23. banjo

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    After you try to flash, from everything I have read, you should leave the Laptop on for about twenty minutes or so before powering off. Even though it doesn't seem to be doing anything, it really is.
     
  24. ONE_J

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    I was not able to download the 7811 CRC for a floppy 1.2 MB big

    could you please send one to me?


    thanks :)
     
  25. ONE_J

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    nothing worked so far. this is a no go :(
     
  26. ONE_J

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    can anyone help me create a bootable crisis recovery image to burn into a CD?

    I think it's the way to go. when I bootup into crisis recovery mode with a bootable CD in, the system is able to read the crisis image.

    unfortunately can only make bootable images of floppy disks, which contain a compressed version of the 2MB bios.wph. so I think this is why it doesn't do it.

    I even tried installing a virtual floppy drive and emulating a 2.88MB floppy disk, but the crisis recovery application only creates a 1.44mb disk into the 2.88MB virtual drive.

    So looked around and found these softwares: MagicIso, Easyboot, UltraIso, PowerIso, WinImage and a couple more, that allow me to access/modify anything .iso, .img, .ima, ect... images and burn them into a CD.

    I am trying to find a way to modify a 1.44MB image (the only one that works) and then trying to replace the bios.wph file in it (which is a compressed version of it) with the 2MB bios.wph, but it seems that everytime I try so something gets screwed up.

    what am I doing wrong? can anyone with more knowledge help me create a bootable minidos crisis recovery image (neither full dos nor freedos) to burn into a CD?
     
  27. banjo

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    Sent you an e-mail.
     
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    thanks I hadn't run into this yet. I'll try it when I get back home. although I think that if the iso contains full dos files it might not work. I can't verify it now.

    but I'll definitely try it anyways since at this point I'm up to trying anything :(
    thanks a lot
     
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    i think i have the same problem here! just tried to flash the same bios i used to have....
    with nibitor where i just changed device and vendor id ( used to write 9800m gt instead 9800m gts and unknown for nvidia) . next time i got black screen with 3 beeps !!!
    i dont have usb floppy,just stick and external hdd. computer is 7805u .
    can any1 help me with some really good and simple solution!
    did clear cmos and still the same!
    i dont think usb device boot was set in bios before, allready tried with bootable usb and blind write nvflash.....

    please help , i cant send private messages to experienced users
     
  31. banjo

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    Hey,
    I e-mailed the guy who orginally posted this thread. He was finally able to restore his P7805u fully. I let him know that you where having the same problem. Hopefully, he will help you out. :D
     
  32. b166

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    thank you so much it might be my only chance
     
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    can somebody write how to enter the bios and set usb flash to primary boot on blind for me (f2 , left,left....you know what i mean )
    so i can try with usb flash and nvflash.exe tho
    thanks guys
     
  34. banjo

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    Hello,
    Do you post when you start the laptop or is it completely dead?
     
  35. b166

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    laptop is working except screen is black, i can hear both fans working, and 3 beeps! its video bios problem
     
  36. banjo

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    Yeah,
    First, you need to make a Bios Crisis Recovery USB Flash disk. ( Because our bios is over 2 MB in size, you need to have it emulated as a 2.88 Floppy image.) For this you need a USB Flash drive 2GB or less in size. Then you need to collect a few tools to do this correctly.

    WINCRSIS is one, I use CDBurnerXP as my burner. I t is actually using the BootLock portion of your bios to recover it. Don't worry about any need to change bios settings. You can't post to get in it to make any changes.

    I would suggest checking out mydigitallife forum which has very good information on how to do this in their bios mod section. If the guy I emailed who did the same thing as you answers he can proably guide you through the whole process. Your notebook is reciverable, but it will take some work and patience.
     
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    johnksss disconnected the CMOS battery under the hatch on the base of the rig.. he left it disconnected for a day or two.. then when he reconnected he had a bootable USB floppy formatted with the Crisis recovery on it. Follow banjo's instructions above. There was a key combo that has to be pressed and held when powering on for it to enter Crisis recovery mode and read from an external source. Unfortunately, I don't remember the keys to depress. power+Shift + F2, powr+ctrl + F2.. cant really remember. I suggest you message johnksss and see if he can assist.
     
  38. banjo

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    I think the key sequence is after removing the battery, unplug for a few minutes, press the power button to discharge fully, insert your USB Crisis Recovery flash drive, press fn + ESC and while holding press the power button (should hear the fans) and then plug in your AC power to the laptop. There unfortunately are a lot of different combo's to try and just getting the sequence down takes alot of tries.( The others are fn + B ,power button and then plug in power.) Also, fn + R, etc.,etc.

    Go to the site I referred you to. Look for modding the 7805u bios and I think they include a CRC folder that will let you use the tools to create the disk along with instructions. I think it includes a untouched (compeletly stock) bios as well.LOL!
     
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    That one contains a modded and none modded bios. I would suggest using the non-modded one.(Orginal bios 9C.17.00) A Crisis Recovery disk has to be in DOS. The best one is DOS 16 or fat format. Works the best. You can use a USB Flash, CD rom or 2.88 Floppy. The image has to be an emulated 2.88 MB Floppy as the bios is so big.

    What you are doing is flashing the orginal bios that came with your laptop. I think it is the ROM file that you re-name to BIOS.WPH. I would include both, but I believe the ROM file is for DOS and the .wph file is for Windows.

    Give it a shot. Your laptop definitely sounds like it is recoverable. Good luck and let me know how you make out.
     
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    banjo,
    sorry for asking but im having a trouble with making Crisis Recovery usb flash
    how you mean The image has to be an emulated 2.88 MB Floppy?
    i have downloaded files from http://www.box.net/shared/qo40k21nmy
    and http://www.box.net/shared/kaphtsnh72 which consist CRISDISK folder
    what is my next step after making usb bootable with hp format tool?
    thanks
     
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    I never had much luck with the HP tool you mentioned. Not that others haven't. I always use WinImage to create the image. Insert the bios files along with basic DOS files plus the .bat file included with the bios. It allows you to emulate a 2.88 Floppy disk size in an image. Then I either burn it to CD ( Using CDBurnerXP, made by the same people) or put it on a flash drive. As a matter of fact, I believe CDBurnerXP has a bootable 2.88 Floppy image that you can download. Of course you will have to insert your bios, .bat from the files you previously downloaded. Then remove most of the files on the image ( THEIR .whp file and alot of DOS files you really don't need. Then you can burn it to CD or put it on a bootable USB drive. Hope this helps.
     
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    ok i have image 2.8mb with ima ext now
    inside are dos files, plash16.exe , A1R3100.rom , A1R3100.wph and batch file named A1R3100.bat with
    phlash16 /s /x /mode=3 A1R3100.WPH inside
    should i rename bat file to autoexec.bat or?

    this has to be blind write or?
    have to mention ,i had problem with wincris.exe , it doesnt copy files to usb at all!
     
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    First you re-name your rom file to BIOS.WPH. I believe in the A1R3100.bat is it is all capital letters?, check to see if it is) You can re-name the .bat file if wish or leave alone. It's a .bat either way. Copy the ima over to your USB drive. If the ima has been emulated as a bootable 2.88 Floppy it should be OK.

    Plus, on the sequence of keys; fn + B (or esc), win button + r. Whichever you choose it's fn + (?), while holding plug AC power in and press power button on laptop. Hold until you see the USB flash or hear your cd whirl. Release, let stand for at least 10-15 minutes. If it doesn't reboot by it self, power it down. Plug in your battery and power cord, re-start and hopefully you will boot. Just make sure your USB drive is bootable.
     
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    to save ima to usb, open image in winimage, click disk, click use removable disk (whatever drive letter your is)-click save...that should do it.
     
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    i cant make bootable usb that way, winimage doesnt copy files to usb!
    only i can do is to click write disk and then is not bootable!
    any other way to extract ima to usb and make it boot?
    one more question , should i format usb before that?
     
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    hi b166,

    I've been away form the forum a little bit. I've been caught up with work and was also trying to catch up on life in general since I had the same problem where my laptop was dead for a good 2 weeks.

    I have to thank Banjo who supported me very much in resolving this issue. if it wouldn't have been for him I'd still be in a total mess.

    so, from what I read you are having the same problem I was having. after changing the device ID your laptop just doesn't want to know anything about it anymore. really sad :( I share your pain.

    but there is a solution to this. luckily I never thought this couldn't have been done. it just took some time a combination of right files, flash memory and luck.

    the first an most important thing is to actually get you to flash the laptop, doesn't really matter with what, you just have to know if the PC is doing the flashing correctly, because if it doesn't even initiate the flashing procedure then you are still very far from the solution.

    a way to recognize if the system is flashing at all is after the system has booted up and read the BIOS from your floppy, USB pen or CD rom drive you should be able to hear the CPU fan spin very fast for about a minute or so.

    if it spins for only 3 seconds then it stops the flashing has failed. this happened when I tried to flash a BIOS image that was 1024mb instead of a 2057mb one that the 7805u needs. same thing if the fan seems to never stop, it happened again when trying to flash a 1024mb BIOS image. it just kept going for over 5 minutes then I sensed that it just halted with no result.

    I had at home 3 different usb pen and a floppy drive. hte floppy drive would allow me to initiate the flashing procedure but only with a compressed BIOS image which by the way just never worked in the end.

    I then tried with CDs but it was almost impossible for me to create a bootable image af the CRISIS recovery disk, every time I would create one it would make a 1.44mb image that of course got screwed up every time I would modify it to insert the 2057mb BIOS image.

    so I tried with all of the USB pen that I had at home and none of them worked. I started to think that it would just never do it with the USB pen, but guess what? I was wrong.

    finally after my stubborness gave up I decided to go the the store and buy two different USB flash drives.

    so I opened the first one and surprisigly after following the same procedures it worked, the system flashed from the USB drive. was the system restored? not quite yet.

    it did't take me long to realize what the problem was. since I knew what it casued it I went straight to the problem and solved it.

    basically, every single BIOS out there has a video BIOS installed in it.

    but, when decompressing it with Phoenix BIOS Editor, what you get is a the BIOS for a geforce 9800M GTS 512mb which has device ID 0628.

    this is the reason why at my first attempt, after the bios got flashed and the system restarted, it was still dead giveng the same 3 beeps.

    so all i needed to do was to enter in nibitor and edit the bios and chose device ID 062C which is for a 9800M GTS 1024mb (reported in nibitor as 9800M GT 1GB).

    once I finished my edit I recompiled the system bios with PBE replacing the old video bios wit hthhe new one and, on my second attempt the PC booted up just fine and I don't recall ever being happier to see that GATEWAY logo my screen that my wife opened up a chapagne bottle and we gave a toast to it :) (I'm not kidding, that's how sad the situation was for about two weeks in my house).

    so here is what you have to do (sorry for the long story but I needed to explain in detail what happened):

    go to Office MAX or anywere they have this USB flas drive (Verbatim 2GB):


    it is a 2GB flash drive, it is very important that you buy this same model. don't buy one that is bigger or one that is smaller (not a 1Gb and neither a 4GB one).

    it only cost 14.99 so it's pretty affodable and trust me, it is worthh the money compared to your expensive now-worthless laptop.

    so go get that USB drive and once you have it, format it with the "HP USB disk storage format utility" that you can find around. google it

    then once you formatted it you are going to go to the folder where you keep the crisis recovery disk files including the bios.wph.

    once there you will select by holding Crtl button the following files:

    minidos.sys
    phlash16.exe
    bios.wph

    right click on them and select under the winrar menu (if you don't have winrar installed, again google it and install it) add to archive.

    give it a random name, it doesn't matter.

    so right now what you are going to do is to open the crisis recovery tool for creating the USB flash pen.

    once open leave everything the way it is, don't change anything and hit start to start creating partition for the USB drive.

    once is over it will tell you to disconnect the USB drive, do it, pull it out od the PC then replug it in. only after you have done so you can click OK and select NO to where it says "start creating a new bootable image or something"

    now double click on the winrar archive that you have just created and select extract then extract its content into the flash drive. it is important that you do it this way, if just copy and paste the files it won't work.

    now you are ready to flash your bios.

    turn off the PC.

    now, there is a lot of controversy about removing batteries, unplugging cable, resetting CMOS ect.. I think each and every one of these procedures need to be followed for certain circumstances different than the current one.

    once I even recovered an old laptop with only the battery plugged in cause it was all I had at the moment (no power in the house), and it worked.

    but just in case I would remove the gateway's battery this time, since I actually did it myself, but forget about plugs ect.

    just make sure that the plug is inserted into the power hole.

    now, place the USB flash drive in the lower left hand side USB slot of the 7805u (but I think it would work on any other slot as well)

    then hold down the buttons FN+Esc while the system is off, now power the Pc on and keep holding the key combination until you hear one single beep ( it should happen almost immediately) then release the key combination.

    now just let the bios flash and wait until it reboots then hopefully you'll be siling again :)

    I almost forgot, send me your email so that I can send you the modded BIOS. in the meantime I suggest you go buy that USB pen

    so my conclusion is that, the 9800m GTS 512 and the 9800M GTS 1024 both have the same chip with device ID 0628 but the second one has waht they call a "romstrap to 062C" which turns it into a different video card.

    therefore everytime you flash your BIOS, if for instance you'd have a 7811fx, your video bios would be replaced instantly, but of course it doesn't happen with a 9800M 1024 version casue apparently the system will flash it to a device ID that it is still not recognized by the system board. therefore the need to modify the system BIOS with a video BIOS specific for the 9800M 1024

    with this said, I say, it's late! good night and good luck :)
    thank you,
     
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    thanks for doin this man !

    my email is [email protected]
    you can send me mod bios now or upload .

    my 2 days are nothing with with ur 2 weeks , cant wait to start
     
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    thats it! thank you so much, my laptop is working well again! after 2 the worst days everything is ok. the key is ONE_J `s pack of files with mod bios as well.
    i used no name 2 gb usb flash so doesnt matter if is verbatim or not in my case!
    once again than you guys for big help and for spending ur time resolving problems for others!
     
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    Yeah,
    It seems when you flash in Dos with a USB it has to be 2GB in size or less for a BootLock recovery to work. Great news!
     
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