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    Does Gateway Have A Future?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by TOSHIBAm35x, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. TOSHIBAm35x

    TOSHIBAm35x Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I was thinking Gateway used to be a very popular home PC. However, over the years there desktops and laptops haven't been selling good. How could of this happened? I always thought that Gateway had good PC's. But, with there stocks falling tremendously do you think that Gateway leave the computing business, or try and gain control of the PC world? Let me know what you think! [ :D]

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  2. nightblade788

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    I think Gateway used to make some crappy PCs.. remember when all thier stores went out of business? Now that they bought Emachines but Emachines is really taking Gateway over (the desktops and notebooks look exactly alike with those blue buttons!) it looks like the PCs at retail are good with nice specs if your're on budget.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. I think with the buyout of emachine, they will definitely have a chance to stay in business since it still one of the most affordable budget laptop out there. As long as Gateway is smart enough to keep the A64 chip intact and make a couple of marketing changes here and there, they should be ok.

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  4. fredman

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    I think you folks miss the mark here, even OPENING a store in the PC World specific to one brand -back when they opened them- was just a bad business decision. The retail stores didn't really 'go out of business', they just came about at the wrong time, keep in mind back then a $2,000 desktop was commonplace, I don't think ANYONE that would have had the ambition to open specialty stores back then would have them open today, the only exception is Apple/Mac, but that is a different world altogether.
    Now, if you were to open stores TODAY, the only one that could possibly do it would be Dell, but even then, why would they ? The overhead is killer, and their direct sales via the web or 800 number would dwarf it.

    NAFTA killed the industry as we knew it, and brought us much cheaper prices, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of jobs.

    Was it worth it ? If you worked in the industry, no, if you are a power pc consumer, I guess it was........
     
  5. djxtamster

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    Gateway did have a future couple years back until when they did a contract with Office Max, by having their own reps at the retail store and hoping a customer would come in and go ahead place an order from them. Thats where they went downhill. And on top of that their reliability dropped because of profit loss, so they layed off a bunch of employees and cut back on most of the quality parts as you see today where everyone have problems with their hindges on their notebooks, or things not working here and there. But in a sense I still think they will make it alive by bringing out the AMD64 notebooks itself with a lot of extra goodies with a low price tag.[ :)] I wish their AMD Athlon 64 notebooks would juss get smaller now so I can use to play CS Source haha [ :)]

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  6. bootleg2go

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    Good question, who knows???

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  7. fredman

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    Unless I am mistaken, almost everybody in the industry has laid off people, especially those companies that were manufacturing in the USA (Thanks, NAFTA, Mr. Clinton), and those that have not are mainly automated or are built with basically slave labor.

    I think coupling Gateway with E-Machines is a GREAT combo, where they are melding products together, whereas you have HP and Compaq 'together', but their products are separate, that is a waste of technical expertise.
     
  8. black jesus

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    I purchased a gateway desktop back when the 450mhz p3 was hot. I had horrible hardware problems with that computer, but customer service was decent.

    I recently purchased a m305 crv on ebay, and its been hell to get the computer fixed. They could not make any sense of the serial over 4 months of searching, then they finally got it all together. One day my computer freaked out, and all kinds of hardware went down. I sent the computer in for service, and they refused to replace the motherboard becuase I put xp pro on it. They insisted that the computer was designed to work with xp home, and would not replace the mobo.

    I was told for months that the computer data would be switched over to my serial #, since they lost it, and was instructed to "call back in a week." After a few months of that, I finally got ahold of a tech taht did it during the same call.

    Now though they insist the mobo is bad, I am posting from the computer, but the cpu fan is dead. I will never buy another computer from gateway, the customer service was terrible, and thier hardware sucks.

    I also am amazed of what lengths they will go to, to ensure that they don't have to service your computer.
     
  9. titaniummd

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    I almost bought from them but I had such a headache trying to purchase from the sales representative on the phone (I had a discount lined up), I just gave up. If it is that hard to BUY from them when they WANT your money. Imagine when they already HAVE YOUR MONEY....

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  10. lapboy

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    Gateway will definately fold up or be swallowed by DELL or the Koreans [ :D]

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  11. Doug McCloud

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    Gateway won't wind up being bought out, especially now that it is being led by the former CEO of eMachines. Basically, even though Gateway bought eMachines on paper, the reality is that they paid eMachines to run their company. The current desktops (with the exception of the Gateway Media Center BTX models) use the same Antec case that eMachines has used for the last few years - the only deifference is the front panel is slightly different. Look at the CD/DVD drives on the eMachines & Gateway desktops - they have the exact same faceplate & bezel.

    The Gateway & eMachines notebooks also share a common design (also with the Voodoo M:680), since they are both actually retreads of the Arima Athlon 64 notebooks. Keep in mind that the Gateways on store shelves are exclusive to retail, whereas Gateway has several models of notebooks & desktops on their web site that are only sold through internet & mail order channels.

    My guess is that Gateway will become the high end model line, while eMachines will be the low-cost, entry level brand (a place they have excelled in for some time now).

     
  12. lapboy

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    The point is there are better reputed high-end laptops in the market.Who in his right mind will pay more money for a Gateway.
    The only incentive to buy Gateway/emachines is that they are cheap.
    So you have Gateway as cheap and emachines as more cheap.
    High-end Gateway !! nah
    I will take IBM or a Samsung anyday if I have money to throw around [ :)]



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  13. Doug McCloud

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>I will take IBM or a Samsung anyday if I have money to throw around <hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>

    Besides the fact that I wouldn't buy an IBM if my life depended on it, there will only be IBM notebooks for about five more years, because under the terms of the sale of the consumer PC business to Lenovo, then can only use the IBM name and data for five years.
     
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    ''''''''''''there will only be IBM notebooks for about five more years''''''''


    Would like to bet how long the Gateway brand will be around for [ :D]

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  15. DarthZug

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>''''''''''''there will only be IBM notebooks for about five more years''''''''


    Would like to bet how long the Gateway brand will be around for
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    http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/This+week+in+IBM+news/2100-1042_3-5487591.html

    IBM will not be around in 5 yrs. eMachines bought Gateway and is using the Gateway name. Gateway got in trouble when they started sell TV's and such at their country stores.
     
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  16. lapboy

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    IBM will not be around in 5 yrs. eMachines bought Gateway and is using the Gateway name. Gateway got in trouble when they started sell TV's and such at their country stores.
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    Well It proves my point that Gateway is already swallowed up by emachines .It won't be long before emachines is swallowed by Dell or the Koreans(Samsung or LG) when they enter the US market directly.



    Just my 2 cents, ofcourse.

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  17. Doug McCloud

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    Gateway bought eMachines, not the other way around. It's just that the eMachines CEO was named CEO of the combined company, and all retail Gateway computers are manufactured under the eMachines outsourcing setups. That's why the 74xx uses the same chassis as the emachines 68xx (Arima design, also used by Voodoo and Sager, among others)
     
  18. weldwirez

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    Does Gateway Have A Future? Does anyone for that matter???

    Mass marketing is the key to most company's success stories.

    Dell put the hurt on Gateway with the "Hype" and type of marketing they deployed. If the spokes person, "STEVEN" had not been busted smoking "POT" and then fired! Dell's marketing plans may have sunk Gateway.

    Thats on the marketing side.

    Now take a serious look at Gateway.
    What makes a company? these kinds of improvements.

    1.Customer service.
    2.Good OEM Options and Components like AMD CPU'S.
    3.Skilled Marketing.
    4.Growth management.
    5.Customers with word of mouth and money in the pockets.

    Did I mention "Mass Marketing"???

    Weldwirez@Genisys Micro Inc.