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    ES x9000's on ebay - are they good?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by DRTH_STi, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. Johnksss

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    you probably can...but alot of this stuff has to do with what the enable and disable in the inf file

    edit: people think they are 3dmarking with stock clocks using a new driver, but the reality of it is...they are using someone elses idea of how their card should run. which in turns is....over clocking..lol (speculation of course)
     
    Johnksss, Jun 12, 2008
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  2. Hendrickson

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    10985 3dm06 points in default. Not quite 11000. How did you get 11,000 points by the way?? :eek:


    Vista x64 is good, but lacks stabel overclocking drivers. I think I'll go back to x64, even if i lose like 1000 3dmark points. I think the OS is slighty quicker and i have an extra 1gb of ram to eat up.
     
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  3. Johnksss

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    default? default is 1280x1024

    and doing exactly what your doing now...moving the sliders around. nothing fancy yet, but working on it...lol
     
    Johnksss, Jun 12, 2008
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  4. Hendrickson

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    VID of 1.1875 is stable with the overclocked FID x 15 (3 Ghz) these ES X9000 are very good. I can't beleive they are able to underclock so much. Will see just how much lower I can undervolt this X9000 before it locks up vista

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Johnksss

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    mine is running at 1.188v right now

    edit: tried 1.150 and it blue screened. guess that's why it's an es version...lol
     
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    Seems stable now @ 3.0ghz - 1.15 volts and im typing this as its running the everest stress test. Max temp has dropped 1 degree too 83c. Will have a screen up in a set. Just want to run the stress test a bit more.

    This thing could do 3.2ghz easy, if only the damn bios would let us. Johnnkss you seem to know a bit. Any way to pin mod this X9000 some how soft mod or force the multipuler to let us hit 3.2 or 3.4 ??
     
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    How can we dump that bios then or get a copy? Maybe when gateway updates the bios (if ever)

    Heres proof shes stable at 1.15 volts @ 3ghz....Now to try one step less.

    [​IMG]

    Edit: Ok so 1.1375 is stable too. Dropped another degree too 82c max. Now try a step less :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Johnksss

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    hahahahahahaha, it crashed
    675/1000 undervolted at 1.15
     
    Johnksss, Jun 12, 2008
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  10. Hendrickson

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    Ok so I managed to get to 1.10 volts @ 3ghz. :D now runs at 80 degrees max. 1.08 = a big BSOD. Still not bad, not bad at all. To answer your question YES these ebay ES X9000's are good.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    Where do you set the voltage on the cpu's? And when I get my x9000 what voltage should I run it at? Or can I just leave it as is?
     
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    using rmclock. click on profiles. then set your voltage there.
     
    Johnksss, Jun 12, 2008
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    Will I need to mess with the voltage in the first place?
    '
     
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    nope. not if you dont want to...it's strictly optional.

    we are working both ends of the spectrum here...over clocking to max playable conditions and undervolting and and powering down gpu for max battery conditions.
     
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    Overclocking and undervolting the same time sounds silly. Since higher clock speeds require more voltage, undervolting does the complete opposite.

    But there is a sweet spot for the OC'd clock speeds. You can still find the optimised voltages for it.

    I suggest you guys put a 1-2 step voltage margin from your unstable voltages. This will make sure stability isnt compromised.

    You guys make me jealous. I want a x9000!

    btw i saw this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=110252547912
     
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    im sorry...was not clear on this...been testing for both. because we have people that want to run a more conservative battery sceme while others would rather over clock and run stable. then those that want the best of both worlds. over clocking is one part and the undervolting is another. we are sort of jumping all over the forums on this stuff.. not to mention trying out every driver there is to see which ones do what. along with trying to find the x9000's lowest operating voltage.

    once im done, then i will set my laptop back. :)
     
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    news update.

    a friend of mine just got the x9000 off of ebay. with b1 stepping. and while running vprime it shut off every time.
     
    Johnksss, Jun 13, 2008
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    So what does that mean?
     
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    means it's no good. the temps are too high and the chip is shutting off completely. (speculation of course) waiting on him to try rmclock to change the voltage.
     
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    well thats good info for when I get one :)
     
    flynnaz, Jun 13, 2008
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    yes it is. still waiting on him to reply back..
     
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    What is MO Stepping?
     
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    that would be the retail release version. b1/co/mo in that order...b series can have up to 3 stages i think.
     
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    I with I had the exrta cash for it, my wife just got my a blackberry curve, its cool to have a wife that thinks like a guy, but, damn, I wish she got me that x9000
     
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    How did it get to M ? i dont remember intel making a huge **** up
     
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    my x7800 is reported by cpuz to be revision e1
    however Intel Processor ID Utility say its revision 92

    :confused:
     
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    Well I bought mine for $895 on ebay, and it is AWESOME! Now I want to upgrade the CPU to the X9000 but I'm probably gonna wait for a while for the price to drop a bit! I was thinking about the X7800 but people are saying that they cause problems!
     
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    * throws up *

    money must grow on trees these days!
     
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    Hey johnksss your after a Gateway bios right? I know that esupport.com reports an updated bios for our mother boards. But at 29.95!!!!! (Its a scam or what?)

    Even if it does not enable 3.2ghz on our X9000 if we can get hold of the bios even an old version you could edit it right and enable higher multipliers for the Extreme CPU's?
     
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  39. Johnksss

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    yes and at 29.95..direct me there....lol
     
    Johnksss, Jun 16, 2008
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    Depends, I didn't really spend much extra. Becasue I sold my old Dell XPS and use that money to get the gateway and the X9000. The sale of my old XPS M170 covered 80% of my costs on the new system. I just had to pay a little more.
     
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    Ok but if I could get you this bios could you edit it (safety) that we could reflash the bios and enable 3.2ghz or 3.4 ?
     
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    hummmmmmmmmm

    [​IMG]


    yeah, i think so.
     
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    your tagline is wrong..... default means 1280x1024 resolution and not 1280x800 and settings are default....


    unless that really is :eek: :eek:
     
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    Whoops yeah got to change that. It was 9028 default. Ok so let me get this straight if I got that default bios for this motherboard in theory you could edit it and enable 3.2ghz or 3.4ghz?

    Would it be easy to flash back? I guess if it failed we could reflash the original back right or would we have a dead noebook?
     
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    been flashing my other laptops and even did a few blind flashes to make sure they worked. but in theory, yes. along with changing the 3d clocks for the 8800m gts, but now im thinking i like how they clock down to that.. :)

    edit: they must have just came with this update, because i could have sworn them people told me the laptop was still too new for a bios update.
     
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  46. DRTH_STi

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    johnkss and hendrickson: I applaud both of you guys trying to edit the bios for the x9k. I myself will purchase an x9k soon when I can afford it but it would be awesome if we could overclock it to it's full potential like what you guys are trying to do. If you guys can - please keep working on it and keep us informed. Maybe, even, start a new thread just on this subject.

    -DRTH_STi
     
    DRTH_STi, Jun 17, 2008
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    shoot..we are just trying to catch up to the sagers/clevos/m860tu's & the xps's

    lol

    edit: i would say the hdx dragon, but no one seems to want to supe one of them up just yet. they could over take a p6831/6860/172fx in the 3dmark06 with a cpu over clock. cant see imac's beating us out though. (8800m gts class. 1 card)
     
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    any time you need test pilots
    SHOUT :)
     
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