Freezing up

When im about to play a game, such as Lost saga or Star Craft 2, the game will load, I'll log in and after 30 seconds to a minute into the game the computer will literally freeze. the only way to get out of it, is hold down the power button. Any ideas?

 

usually such a freeze is the video card. Is it overclocked, if so try stock clocks...............

I see you have the new board in sig, check your video temps too etc.

Edit be sure to delete all your old profiles etc too as they can be of issue from the old overclocks................

 

I literally just got this one, and installed it. Everything worked good, and it only freezes when im running a game. and im using your specifications.

 

every board/cpu/gpu is different, also remember I use a Targus 180w for the brick so I may have alot more amps to supply the board................

 

When I put the motherboard in, I did a fresh install of windows and pretty much started over.

 

then put everything you can to stock and make sure it all works, then go from there about overclocking. You have to do a full test at stock first.

Again I have the 180w brick so there is 50% more clean amps from the stock 120w brick on tap. my settings may not be good for you.

Edit; Also I've ICD'd the GPU/video memory chips/CPU and NB, CPU and NB now are now copper shimmed too but this did not change my OC's....................

 

o ok, Well then, ill try everything stock.

 

A suggestion is get furmark and run a window 1024x768 for about 10-15 minutes at all stock settings. Be sure it runs well with no freezes and temps should only get to 80-85c only as you can see with mine OC'd pretty high..............

Edit; there was one person (P7908) who had an issue using a USB mouse too. They found only with certain mice that seemed to have a high usb power draw too, so try unplugging the mouse too. I can say I do not have that issue but again I have the 180w brick so that MAY be a contributing factor.

Asus and others with 460m and the apparent higher draw iCores are using 150w stock bricks. The x9100 is a high draw CPU sojust to stress one more time the 120w may be too small. Does the brick seem to get HOT?...........

 

well, I have a Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard, Razer Mamba Mouse, and the Razer Megalodon headset hooked up.

 

I would try without them first all stock. start adding things once you are sure the stripped configuration works and keep checking stability with a 10 minute firmark run. once the configuration is proven solid then try gaming etc at stock. once all is fine then slight OC's and see where you can get it too.........

Edit; I know I'm retentive...............

Edit 2; be sure the bios is .07 too..................

 

well, 10 minute burn in test with nothing plugged in and not one ounce of lag or freezing. and I did update the bios for sure. Now to plug the mouse in and do it again.

 

rememeber with the mouse and other periphials you are not really using them so power draw maay be low. While in Furmark they may be stable but not in gaming. Once furmark has proven itself try gaming if however there is still a lock up issue reboot and try without periphials, again all at stock speeds..................

Edit; how were the GPU temps?

 

Ok well 8 minutes into the burn in test with the mouse plugged in, it froze. Ill assume this means I need more power, and I really do hope that is all it is.

The gpu temps never went over 88 C

 

may not be, I never saw a post from that other person afterwards but I think they stated they were going to use another mouse not sure where it went.

I can tell you I've used/use a wireless Logitech LX8, BT Logitech v4000 and a microsoft wireless with no issue this with a plantronics usb headset (gamecon dolby surround) with no issues. Now try gaming without the mouse.

Also 88c is a bit warm but well within specs so stock that shouldn't be an issue..................

Edit; also sitting on a NC2000 usb powered fans...........

Edit 2; the mouse needs it own USB port in not on a non-powered hub, don't daisy it off a usb powered cooler etc. you may be drawing too much from the port.

 

I hook them up directly to the laptop. I might get a powered hub, But i already ordered a 180W AC power supply. My games played perfectly without anything plugged in. You're a life saver man. Tomorrow when I get off work ill test it out a bit more to make sure that it is just the power consumption. But right now thats exactly what its turning out to be. Thank you!!!

 

Glad to be of help....................

 

Also remember you now have a true 75w GPU without overclocking and with the TPD of 44w on the x9100 CPU without any overclock you are pushing the 120w power brick without power to anything else. Alot of other stock mobile 260m's are even declocked to lower than spec 550/950/1350 for that reason.

I am not sure if the 180w will solve the issue of your mouse but it will place you with enough power to know power is not an issue. Even the user that had a USB mouse issue with power was not using a x9100.

 

Well How is it that you're not having any issues, when you said you do photo editing and what not and game with no problem, even over-clocking it? I also will be getting a Powered USB HUB so that my usb ports wont have the strain of providing power to the periphials.

 

yeah.. I hope so.. because i do plan on getting the QX9300. Now that one I will not be over clocking what so ever, but I like power.. lol. When I max this out, then ill trail over to building a desktop, though im afraid to because i know ill be using a 1500watt power supply. If i build it I plan on making it work building ya know. Over kill is under rated my friend.. lol

 

I hve the 180w Targus Brick, have sued it even before this machine. The brick supplys ample power even if the CPU and GPU use all the normal power I still have 60w for the rest of the system. Since I undervolt the CPU even overclocked it uses no more than the stock amount of power.

I know this because even at stock clock and vcore under prime95 I overheat and it kicks back to 1.6 GHz occasionally to cool. With my present settings the CPU does not overheat.

Overkill is under rated untill you kill the system. Just because you have the spare power to pump into the system doesn't mean you should stress it till it breaks. A suggestion about the qx9300. though.

With the q9200 I can run 2.66 GHz at the lowest possible vcore 1.0500. This lowers power consumption but more imporstantly heat output. Use TS to undervolt as much as possible...........

 

no no, when I said over kill is under rated, I meant that when I start building my desktop, as in im putting nothing but the best in it and im maxing it out. Like im going to get 4 video cars, 2 cpu's and the max memory etc. I didnt mean over kill as in imma overclock everything to the max. lol.. i may be blonde, but im not that stupid.

 

Ah, better have it's own 30A breaker or better out of the main circuit breaker box then..............

 

What I don't get is how do the P79 laptops use a 120watt adapter.. like im using, and they work just fine.

 

120w is nominal, they will peak a bit higher when need be. The original cpu is 25w TDP P8xxx but in reality it doesn't use a total of 25w usually. They tend to use a bit less, it is when you get to an overclockable CPU and start pushing it. Then you may encounter issues. In reality Gateway should though have used a 150w for the P79xx's.

If you look at the video cards a 160m was a renamed GTS 9800m, the 260m is an overclocked GTX 9800m so it truely uses the 75w envelope.

 

makes sense.

 

Great... it still freezes on me even with the 180 watt power supply.

 

Could the memory modules for the graphics card be the issue.. is they were to get too hot perhaps? Because I did take the heat pads off of them thinking they were for the gpu and cpu..

 

mine had no pads on the video memory but did have paste on the GPU. sorry to hear you still have issues with the freezing and USB. In bios do you have USB legacy enabled? I ask as I have it disabled. also do all of your usb devices cause the freeze?

Edit; I should note on assembly I also ICD'd the four memory chips and the extra component coverd by the heatsink. A side note though with all the extra USB components you mainl mentioned a problem with the mouse. Those gaming mice ahve extrememly high polling rates.Again the bios in legacy mode may be an issue. The other problem is not matter hoe cleam the power is our usb ports may have issues at those polling rates.

Now that you have the 180w using TS redo your over clocks and especially pay attention to the vCores. you may find you need to lower them. You may find there is no change too. You do know now though the power brick is not a limitation and you need now not worry about killing the brick either.

 

I ran that furrymark for like 15 minutes with the mouse and my 7.1 headset plugged up @ 1920 x 1200 and it didnt freeze at all. but the second i open my games... it freezes.

Plus everything is 100% stock clocks right now, and i just disabled the legacy in the bios. I did thermal paste the four memory modules around the gpu, the gpu, and i even went a head and put a thin bead of paste on the metal enclosure on the edge of the gpu.

 

is the bios setting for USB legacy disabled? under legacy the high poll rate of the gaming mouse may casue issues. I would also suggest trying the games with just the louse out and see if that is an issue.

With my synaptics driver I ahve disable toughpad on mouse enabled do you have that too?

Edit; now that you can run furmark without issue the power problem sounds like it is definately resolved..............

 

how would I disable the touch-pad?

 

mouse properties.............

 

ok, disabled. I do find it odd that it only does it when i try to play games, yet when i run the furmark its fine now.

 

Furmark does not ask for any input of mouse or output of sound. This is why I asked if you had furmark lockups as if there is a graphics and power issue etc furmark showed it to you. Now some of the lockups you had before were power related, now it is time to resolve the other issues now that we can see the power issue is resolved............

 

o ok. so its not a gpu or power issue now. I gotcha.. well the Legacy driver is disabled in the bios, and the pointing device is also disabled.

 

and still locks up??????

 

im about to try it out now.. im finishing up installing Crysis 2 again.

 

K...................

 

yup, still freezes on me.

 

now this is a gaming mouse, with the software of the mouse is the polling rate controlable? if so ca polls be adjusted to 125 per second or 250? I know wit some of them it can go as high as 1,000 or 1 ms and that may be too much. Also does it run ok with the headset and not the mouse or are there issues with both?

try them individually if possible and see if it locks up...............

 

im checking it with just the head set now, but the stock motherboard never had a problem with any of these things.. it ran just fine with the mouse and headset on.

 

Ok, well it froze with just my headset aswell. And yes, it is a Razer Mambo Gaming mouse.

 

The USB controler chip is different here, at this point though what specifically is causing the issue is conjuncture. right now it is just trying one thing at a time.

You definately had a power issue before, that seems resolved now. I know the mouse I'm using has like 8ms or 125 per second polling. that I why I suggest that setting.

 

ok headset as well, so without the headset and just the mouse it locks up, and no other usb devices?

Edit, just to be sure it doesn't lockup the game without any usb devices too?

 

I just changed the polling from 1000mhz to 125.

 

Yeah.. i just tried it with just the mouse and it still froze on me.

 

for the mouse only try the usb port on the left top only, that seems on mine to be the most responsive..... will post an edit in a few to this............

Edit; for USB devices, my generic USB hub is my powered hub. That is new and I had no issues before that......

Edit2; do you have any software loaded for the mouse and or the headset other than default windows drivers? also is Crysis2 the only game you have loaded and problems with?

 

i tried the top left and still froze on me, which crysis 2 now. So i dont know.. this is always my luck.. lol..I have to get up in 2 1/2 hours for work, so imma hit the sack man.. thanks for the help so far!!!, just hope this gets fixed soon.. im missing my games.. lol

 

Advantage of being retired, but also the disadvantage too. I'll end up sleeping off alot of the day where I'd normally have been at work...........

Edit; not sure Crysis 2 is the best game to try this with as there seems to be others out thee with issues just with the game. try downloading the original crysis or dirt 2 demo and see if that works, those I know work here.........

 

downloaded dirt 2 demo now.