Gateway FX P-7807u & P-7808u

J&R has them listed as "Coming Soon".

P-7807U - h e r e, with Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4GHz.

P-7808U - h e r e, Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 2GHz.

Looks like Gateway is getting behind the FX P-78 series, doesn't it?

I don't see "Blu-Ray" on either, but the 8u does include Bluetooth.

 

Whoa, quad core with 500gb hard drive!! A little expensive, but I'd consider it worth the price. That's a nice laptop... too bad it doesn't have the build quality of a Clevo or similar high-spec laptop.

Edit: Too bad they're WXGA+ screens, maybe they got complaints about WUXGA screens?

 

Yes, both with "17" WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Ultrabright Display".

 

Heh yeah, I edited my post about that.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=347866

Isn't this the same info that started this thread?

 

I think the plan has been for the WXGA+ screens, but perhaps to meet manufacturing and delivery requirements they had to put 1920 x 1200 on the earlier 7805u's.

It looks like the 7801u was designated for the WUXGA's from the start.

 

Doh! Yeah, I forgot that that thread was linking to J&R too.

Maybe a Mod can join the two threads?

Sorry, my bad.

 

On the positive side, the 07u info is new, isn't it?

 

I think it came up midway through the other thread, I know I've already seen both of them, lol, sorry.

 

*considers making up a site with info on the P-7809u*

I'm just having a bad day -

delete this thread

delete me

delete Gateway

*goes off to Ctrl + Alt + Del self*

 

ctrl + alt+ del won't work. you have to go into cmd and deltree JohnWhoTwo:\

 

wow, just not impressed with this next line up of FX computers.

The 7807 is a complete joke... really 2.26 vs 2.4 is no different to the end user. And haredly worth the extra money over the 7805 already available at best buy.

Its like the 17X series crap all over again

 

So, if the 7808u has quad core support, does that mean that it would be possible for the 7811 too?

 

I'm assuming the 7808 is running the upgraded heatsink from the ipower packard bell line (which will actually work with a quad core)

The problem has never been that the 7811 couldnt run a quad (once e-wrecked started getting the BIOS out to everyone) its that the quad would fry due to not having a cooling system that was capable of handleing it with out extensive modifications.

The other problem is that with gateway no longer allowing OCing... even spending 800+ dollars on a qx9300 your still now only getting 2.53 gHz. So basically this round of quads is a waste of effort on the buyers part (in gateways at least). I'll keep my 3ghz x9000 rather than fo to an inferior clocked quad. The QX9300 isnt bad even at base clocks...but still sacrificing nearly 500mHz for 90% of applications (as few things are really multi core yet) is pretty unacceptable for something that costs twice what i paid for the x9000.

I dub this round of FX lappies FAIL

 

No it wasn't a matter of heatsink. the CPU would not even post. if that were the case the computer would still boot but possibly over heat and shut down. that's not the case it wouldn't even recognize the quads. someone was saying it was the socket doesn't recognize some sort of pin quads dedicate for more power or something.

 

The only time i remember anyone trying it was on the original BIOS update that supposedly supported the quads (but incidentally didnt) and BMW couldnt get it to post then because it wasnt actually being recognized.

Do you have a link to what your explaining? As i must have missed that round of quad tryouts and i'm spewing wrong info if thats indeed the case.

But it is still very much a cooling system issue. If you stick a quad in the stock 78XX dual set up it will fry pretty quick.

 

Finally found the thread

 

it will be pretty cool if we can order the beefed up heatsink from gateway and flash a new BIOS though.. who knows...

 

Hrm... so theres a different "different" socket P for the quads as well... that makes like 3 at this point. Weird.

Cant wait for 32mn Nehelam. Wont have to deal with this retardedness anymore

Intresting read though

 

If they do allow us to order the better heatsink, that would be awesome. I have tons of heating problems with my 7811. If they don't, then the 7808 wouldn't be so bad if the price went down. You could install a new screen, and it would be like a beefed up 7805 with better cooling.

 

no shiz...i cant wait for nehalem to drop.

 

Hi, I want to buy a Gateway FX P-7805u or Gateway FX P-7807u.
Those this laptop support a quad processor, because I want to upgrade the cpu. If not then I will have to wait for the Gateway FX P-7808u .
Thank you for your time.

 

If the "different different Socket P" is true then no only laptops natively supporting the Quad core will be able to actually support one.

I still think its a bad move to get these. By the time a native quad FX is released Nehelem will be right around the corner (2nd to 3rd quarter this year) And unless you can deal with a max of 2.53gHz on a quad its not really worth an upgrade. Gateway has taken out the ability to OC it appears so you will only get the stock speeds out of any quad that you purchase... seems a waste of 800+ dollars to just sit at 2.53gHz

I'm really hoping against hope that Gateway will re-allow overclocking in the BIOS. I would like to pick up the extreme Quad for the next round and have it run faster than 2.8ish gHz (though nehelem might surprize the crap out of us and be a stock of 3+ gHz so OCing wont be that big of a deal)

 

The socket is definitely different for quads. I read the datasheet last night. See table 15 on page 66 for the pin differences.
http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320390.pdf

 

Some of the sockets and chips are interchangeable.. I have swapped several dual core and quad core processors around and never had a problem on desktop computers.

 

And while that may be true for desktops notebooks are an entirely different breed of animal.

You have to be alot more selective with what you choose as upgrades due to the sheer number of different connections for almost everything

 

So the best thing will be to get the standard FX P-7805u or Gateway FX P-7807u and get x9100 upgrade ?
Also any hope that the new Gateway FX P-7807u. will have a 1900 x 1200 screen.

 

Actually in the gateways the t9800 is superior to the x9100 really. 2.93 gHz vs 3.06 gHz. Your looking at a 13 mHz increase for a premium price. Since you cant overclock it the x9100 is basically useless in the Gateways.

not a clue, but luckily the screens are upgradeable, so its only a minor inconvience

 

Or wait for the P-7808u with the Quad Core CPU.

In my opinion, Gateway will most likely have the monitor confusion (on the 7805u) sorted out by the time the 07u's and 08u's are available, so what they say you'll be getting will probably be correct.

 

The quads of this generation are basically crap. 2.0gHz... 2.2gHz or pay a ton for something that is ment to be overclocked but cant be, so is stuck at 2.53gHz.

A fast dual core is still superior to a slow quad in most applications so the benefit is quite limited right now. Very soon that wont be the case anymore, but it gives plenty of time to wait for actually good quad core solutions to become available

 

I think I'll hold off until the next generation GPU comes out...

 

Can anyone point me to a step by step guide to replacing the processor for the 78xx series? I remember that such a guide was posted awhile ago. I'm actually surprised that it's not stickied.

I remember that there was a fantastic overclocking/undervolting guide and a how-to on upgrading the processor for the 78xx with photos of the whole process.

 

Isn't the 78xx case the exact same as the 68xx case? There are a ton of guides around the interweb for those.

 

You looking for this:

Youtube - P-7811 FX CPU replacement guide

 

Any links to the guides posted here on NR would be great. I found them here. Links please!

 

look at the top of this subforum and you'll get a complete disassembly guide.

 

I just gave you a link to the CPU change guide which was made by a member of this forum.