Gateway NV79 series and Windows XP

Hello Fellow Notebook Users,

I know not many notebook users are fans of Gateway, but I recently got severely burned by HP, by missing their recall of thousands of their DV9000 series notebooks (a known NVIDIA chip, and Broadcom wireless card, and rebooting problem). I owned an HP DV-9308nr. The way they handled my call has convinced me of their lack of credibility and reliability.

So I am going to take a chance on a cheap Gateway notebook (since they are now owned by Acer), and I am interested in purchasing the Gateway NV7923u notebook, which comes with Windows 7 Home Premium x64 ( http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668447.php?tab=specs) .

I have heavily invested in Windows 32-bit software (MS Office 2007, MS Project, MS Visio, Visual Studio 2008, Nero, Hauppauge WinTV, Adobe Acrobat-Full version, etc.) And it is contemptuous realmad , that Microsoft does not make the Windows XP mode available in the Home version. I will not shell out $199. for a Windows 7 upgrade (Home->Pro), when I have heard that not all Windows 32-bit software will work in the virtualized Windows 7's XP mode.

My question to all in this forum (that know), is whether anyone has been successful in installing Windows XP Professional (SP3) on any Gateway NV-series notebook?

My last resort will be to install Linux and then use Virtualbox to install non-hardware dependent Windows 32-bit software, and then use Linux versions of the hardware dependent Windows 32-bit software (like Hauppauge WinTV).

Hoping for the best notworthy .

Thank you.

 

It is irritating when people without answers give their opinions. So in the spirit of irritation I offer ...

Hauppauge WinTV is the only thing in your list that "may" not work on 64 bit, seems to me. Just an observation because of your list.

 

I don't know the answer for sure, but I notice the bios on my NV 78 has an option under "SATA Mode" to choose either AHCI or IDE. So my hope is that using IDE mode would allow Windows XP to be installed without the dreaded task of having to press F6 and load SATA drivers from a floppy disk (which no notebook has any more).

However, I have not tried to load XP yet, and I'm not sure how XP would react to 4 gigs of RAM either.

So no, I am not sure if it can be done or not, but it looks somewhat encouraging. However, I also know how much computer hardware manufacturers hate it when people try to use legacy operating systems on newer hardware, and I have heard of code being put in the BIOS to prevent older OS'es from installing, so I would not be at all surprised to find that XP would not install.

FWIW, I despise HP's current notebooks too, very poor build quality, IMHO.

 

All of the software mentioned in your post will work in Windows 7 64bits without the Windows XP mode.

No reason to install a 9 year old OS on a brand new computer

 

Microsoft wouldn't screw themselves up by releasing 32 bit only MS Office and then roll out new 64 bit OS's that doesn't support it.

 

Is your answer pure speculation (regardless of Microsoft business hypotheticals) or do you have actual experience installing Microsoft Office 2007 on a Windows 7 Home Premium notebook (which doesn't have the XP Mode)?

If it does work, why would you even need the Windows 7's XP Mode?

 

I'd say for thousands of legacy programs.

Edit: Microsoft says XP mode isn't supported on Windows 7 Home Premium but not the geeks.

 

"Legacy?" What an amorphous term. Would that be pre-XP or pre-2000 or pre-NT or pre-98 or pre-95 or pre-Win3 or dare I ask, does it meant MS-DOS applications?

I will assume if software is GUI-based and made for XP, then it should install on Windows 7 Home Premium.

Appreciate all your previous answers.

Thx

 

Continued next reply...

 

Well if you use Windows Vista/7 you will know how the x86/64 bit applications are installed. And i can say for sure that most applications including MS Office 2007 will run fine. I'm not a MS Office user since i use an equally good 32 bit Office package thats free. But i can say its gonna still run fine. Do you think when MS released Vista in 2007 they weren't bothered about how people would run their own 32 bit office application? 64 bit OS isn't new anymore and most of the applications are just gonna run fine. The main reason why XP mode was added to the other versions of Windows 7 was to encourage big companies to jump from XP to Windows 7 if at all they had concerns of any incompatibility. Maybe you're right about the geeky thing provided you use a legal XP installation.
Edit : Avoid posting links on methods that are considered illegal. Just to stay clean in these forums.

 

Thanks for your answers. I am sufficiently satisfied with going ahead in purchasing that cheap Gateway notebook with pre-installed Windows 7 Home premium.

Namaste

 

What is the Cinebench R10 score of your notebook?

Download at
http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=1708&file=6&evp=e06176acdec5cdca46d78b7bbebd40d1

 

To hack you should definitely be a geek. As long as the intention is not bad there is nothing wrong in glorifying a hacker. Lets not go deep into that. To secure a network or whatever, hackers (not crackers) are the ones to rely on. Its just that of late people interchange the terms. Workarounds are not cracks but finding an alternate way. Why i said not to post the link is that the moderators most often than not take the post out. FYI i'm not here to prove you wrong and say i'm right.

Edit : CB Release 10 i used. With default setting except power plan set to high performance i get
OpenGL 3735
Single CPU render 2528
Multiple CPU render 4791

 

That NV7923u notebook with a Intel Core i5-430m scored as follows:

Cinebench R10: Rendering Single
0% 100%
min: 2671, avg: 2671, max: 2671 Points

Cinebench R10: Rendering Multiple CPUs
0% 100%
min: 6035, avg: 6035, max: 6035 Points


Cinebench R10: Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit
0% 100%
min: 7176, avg: 7176, max: 7176 Points

Cinebench R10: Rendering Single CPUs 64Bit
0% 100%
min: 3301, avg: 3301, max: 3301 Points

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-430M-Notebook-Processor.23750.0.html

So I think this will be a fairly competent notebook with that cpu. I am just hoping I will not have any issues with it (hardware or software or quality-wise), while its Intel graphics card has a fairly bare minimum capability, nonetheless your notebook's 3DMark06 score kicks some a** ! (probable due to having a high-end NVIDIA video card and its overclocked GPU).

Thanks again for your responses.
Thanks to this forum.

Namaste

 

I have no problem with NV series so far.. My NV notebook actually never has BSOD since 09/01/09

 

I have a new Gateway nv7915U. I also had an 17" HP laptop but it started to overheat and locked up. The Gateway is quite nice but I just started to use it so I'll review it later in more detail.

Back to the point of using XP on the nv79 series:

I had the store I bought my computer from upgrade my machine to 7-Pro so that I can run XP. Here are the facts:

1. I called gateway and they said that (a) XP can be installed on the machine but (b) they will not guarantee that drivers are available for all internal peripherals. Also, the software warranty (on Windows 7) is lost.

2. I am an engineer and many XP programs will not run under Windows 7 nor in Windows 7 XP mode.

3. I called some suppliers of these programs and they are aware of the fact the fact that their software will not run on 7.

By the way, these are "non-hardware" dependent software. Just software.

To those who call using XP on these machines "illegal", I may not be a lawyer but I don't think it's illegal - just not to Microsoft's liking. Besides, what's the surprise that there are so many incompatibilities.

Good luck to all.

 

If you got a legal copy of Windows XP then try running it using other VM like VMware or Virtualbox to see if those applications work in it. If you haven't tried that. XP for sure can be installed in these systems with a lot of effort though. But driver issues are gonna be there.

 

did you ever get this handled?
i have xp up and running on mine. i just bought it the other day and loaded up xp for benching.

 

Airpragma I have installed Windows XP in my NV79 machine in one parttition and Installed Windows 7 Professional in other parttition. As you mentioned some drives you have to found in Acer web pag and others in the Intel Web site. It is working fine. Pekinpah was also right as you have to change your hard disk to IDE instead of AHCI, but take care as all data in Windows 7 will be lost, so do an external data backup before change it.
I hope it will help you.

 

Hello,
What exact driver did u use for VGA on this Pc? mine is Gateway NV7923u. i installed Win Xp Pack2 32bits and install all Win 7 drivers and they are working but only this graphics problems. i download several intel Drivers for win xp but when try to install, says system does not meet the minimum requirement.
I even upgraded to win xp pack3.
bellow is screenshot of mydevice manager.

 

did you get this fixed?

 

Till now not fix.
any compatible driver yet?? please post link.

 

what driver are you still looking for?

video
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...controllers&ProductProduct=Intel®+HD+Graphics

the rest of the drivers are here.
http://support.gateway.com/support/...wse&platform=10022&model=12446&os=12389&type=

 

Just got them from intel.
Now i need only the Network controller driver for enable Wifi work in Win XP Pro 32bits

 

i think it's this one for xp.

WLAN_HB93_HB95_v8.0.0.205_Win7.zip - Atheros HB93 and HB95 Wireless Network Driver Version 8.0.0.205
Supports: Windows 7 (64-bit), Windows 7 (32-bit)
Note: This file contains the Windows 7(32 and 64-bit) Atheros network driver for the computer models and components listed
12/14/2009
5,545 KB