Gateway P-6860/6831 CPU Upgrade

Note that those guides are for the P6860FX, I don't know if there are any for the P68 50FX.

I'm probably winding up having to pay as one of my CPU screws was so tightly screwed in that I wound up stripping it.

Hopefully it won't cost me an arm and a leg.

 

What do you mean by matching? Do you mean the speed of the memory 667mhz vs the Front side bus of the CPU? In which case they really aren't related and it wouldn't matter if those 2 numbers would match, besides you can only run 667 ram in the Gateway. It does not support 800 ram. It will fit but it will just downclock to the lower speed. So don't waste your money on ram your computer wont support. Keep the stock ram it will be fine with the T-9300. Also swapping CPU's in this laptop is easier than swapping CPU's on your desktop. Don't pay anyone big bucks for 5 minutes of work. Trust me even a Caveman could do it

 

Mine weren't in there too tight. I bet you used too large of a Phillips head which didn't have a good bite on the screw. I used a Number 1 Phillips and those screws came right off. Of course once the screw is stripped it will be very difficult to take out. Have you tried a small pair of Needlenose pliers?
Of course at this point you could probably cause more damage than good.
I would take it somewhere and have them take out the damaged screw.

 

Read my posts in other threads.

I''m going to bet that you're wrong. I didn't use a screwdriver that was too large.

And yes, I have tried a pair of needlenose pliers.

And yes, those damned things were screwed on extremely tightly.

My entire chassis was flexing to remove the three screws I managed to remove. I thought I was going to break the damned thing.

 

It should have never been in there that tight! Did you get all the screws off?
There should have been no flexing whatsoever. Those things must have been welded on there.

 

Yes, I thought so too. Nope, like I said, stripped a screw.
That last one was probably super glued + welded.

 

Damn, that $ucks! Is there anyway to use a very small easy out and drill it out?

 

It's the screw in the bottom right corner if you have the battery facing you. It's also the screw with the least amount of space to work in. And since it's mounted on the motherboard, I'm not sure if I want to submit that to the kind of shock drilling will cause.

 

big 10-4 negative. just take it to the shop. your missing to much fun time with this baby. your gonna start to hate it more than love it. and if they break it, guess what..THEY have to replace it. no matter what your warranty says

 

lol

The screw isn't affecting the performance in any way, so I'm good. It's just a tad annoying. I try not to think about it.

 

i'm talking about that shinny new t9300 pal

 

Oh that, yes.

 

Thanks for the heads-up. Also, does anyone know if the 6850's CPU is welded to the motherboard? I asked a computer guy and he said he might not be able to switch CPUs because it might be permanently attached to the motherboard.

 

Pretty sure that Gateway wouldn't solder the CPU in. GPU would be a totally different issue however.

 

I knew that this laptop wouldn't support 800mhz for the RAM. I was just checking to make sure that the 667mhz on the RAM wouldn't slow down the 800mhz for the FSB on the processor and mobo. I'm not too worried about swapping them out. If a caveman can do it, all I'll have to do at the most is hit it with a rock.

 

The T-9300 will speed up your FX6860 tremendously regardless of memory speed. When you use that rock to install it just make sure it has a No.1 phillips like front end

 

Well, I got my T9300 in. Cost me $16.20.

Pretty sweet actually. I think the shop put a little too much AS5, but that's manageable, at least with the new screws, I should be able to remove them without possibly breaking the motherboard.

 

dude!, what did i tell you. 10 to 50 bucks.

nice!

so how is it running now?

 

Hey John, I've got a higher WEI score than you.

5.1 RAM FTW hahahah.

So far the only noticeable difference is the rate I can get wireless connections up and running.

Startup is going faster as well, but surprisingly little.

I'm actually quite tempted by the Dell M6300 and M90 that's currently for sale in the FS forum.

The M6300 has a FX3600M (8800M GTS core). Issues are the relatively small hard drive/no network card and no complete care.

The M90 has a FX3500M (7950 GTX core). Issue is the FX3500M and the T7600. I'll be downgrading performance wise and upgrading warranty and chassis wise.

Both machines are a great deal.

 

then that's what it is...i wasn't for sure and i was not about to take that dv9700 apart again just to see if that was why the point difference...lol

and that 3600m (96 unified shaders) is on par with a 8800m gtx
and that 3500m seems a bit lower

the m6300 sounds like the better choice...now is that card a mxm card? if so..you could upgrade later down the line.

 

Nah, the 3600M is a 8800M GTS, it's 64 shaders. I was under the impression that it was a 8800M GTX core as well, but GPU-Z done on a Dell M6300's or HP 8710W's FX3600M proved otherwise.

The M6300 and M90 both use MXM cards, but Dell ones though.

FX3500M = 7950 GTX, so that's quite a bit of downgrade. Still a great machine, but performance wise, I'll be taking quite a hit.

Both of these machines are a great deal. If anything accidental happens to the M90, Dell will fix it right up. A year or two down the road, they'll probably have to replace it with a M6300 with FX3600M. That's what really tempted me to get the M90.

Looks like I might be getting the M90. lol

 

what! and here i thought it was 96 all this time. thanks for that info!

knowing you.. better go ahead and get that m6300. a year down the line you can upgrade to the next model up, instead of upgrading to it, if the m90 breaks.

 

Lol. The M6300 got sold to the guy selling the M90. I'm attempting to buy the M90 now. Hope he's willing to sell.

AND HEY! What did you mean, by knowing me?

 

the knowing me comes from your comments and post through out the forums. not in the "personally knowing you so to speak terms" you seem to rather have quality than just jump the gun on a fly by night deal.

and that's messed up...lol he beat you to it. heck...i might trade both of mine for a for a sager NP9262... woohooo! no anyone will to consider it?

 

If I don't get the M90, I'm going to wait for the release of the M570TU and M860TU and hope people will drop their 5793s cheap.

I tend to be a tad rough, so I like a good warranty. The P6860FX's bang for buck blew me away though.

 

there was some write up about the m860tu's not supporting the new gpu and new cpu together...is there any truth to this? something about it exceeds the wattage usage

edit: guess someone might have been telling stories....
http://www.eurocom.com/products/future/index.htm

 

Clevo has confirmed that the M860TU will NOT be released with 9800M GTX, for now. Future developments may change that.

PCmicroworks and Eurocom really need to get around with fixing that.

 

Sorry for the totaly noob question. But I recently orderd a P-172s FX that should arive in 2 days.

am I to assume the 172s is the same as the 6860/6831? I would like to upgrade the processor like you guys have in the future.

I also want to do a few other other things like vista tweeks, drivers, oc, blue ray etc that you guys have shown how to do but all the threads are talking about the 6860 so just want to be sure that I am correct that they basicaly are the same.

also this forum rocks I have learned so much just by reading diffrent topics. Was a desktop gamer now im a notebook gamer.




I made my choice after 3 months of reading the forums and reviews here. I was going to order a m17 but now am glad I saved the 2k.

 

They're the same.

By the way, if you're going to upgrade the processor anyway, why did you go for the 172S FX?

Also, welcome to the forum/Gateway owners.

 

Ok good ty ty

I went with the 172s because I didnt want to upgrade the processor right away. Also I got it for $1,149.00 while the one at Best Buy was $1,349.00 and didnt want to wait weeks for it to go on sale just to be the same price if not still a bit more $

 

Good reasoning. That's also an excellent price you got for the P172S.

 

dtwn83, did you notice a increase in FPS with the cpu upgrade?

 

To be honest, I don't have anything running right now that would tax this machine, so I can't give you a good answer. However, if you look at the various threads posted, you will see some increase, particularly for CPU-intensive games.

 

Hi, I stumbled onto this forum, b/c I'm looking to buy this same model from Best Buy. I'm troubled, though, as I spoke to a Gateway tech support person that told me that I would not be able to update the Gateway Model P-6860FX without replacing the motherboard, as, to her knowledge, the CPU was soldered in.


Can someone please confirm for me that the P-6860FX, a Best Buy only configuration ( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8780198&productCategoryId=pcmcat150700050002&type=product&tab=2&id=1204332501169#productdetail), can have the CPU upgraded, simply by removing the processor, as depicted on page 1 of this post?

Further, can you confirm that I would be able to replace it with the "Intel Core2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache Socket P 35W Dual-Core Processor" that I found on Newegg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...OTC-Froogle-_-Processors-_-intel-_-19111001)?

Sorry for the redundancy, I just want to make sure that the Gateway tech was wrong, before I leap into this purchase.

 

she is wrong... it is in fact upgradeable

 

Well, I just got my T9300 in today. So... I guess that makes her wrong?

 

She is soooo wrong. Did she speak with an accent by any chance? Perhaps you were talking to someone in India that isn't properly trained on their own system. Outsourcing is what kills America. Cheap labor but you get what you pay for.

 

I'm not sure if you know this, but one of Gateway's marketing strategies is its claim of pure North American based support for North American clients.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6864262/GATEWAY-GET-AWARDS-FOR-TECH.html

Not all incompetent tech support is from India. You get that everywhere.

 

upgradeable it is.
most of gateway support team would not be able to distinguish a computer from a refrigerator, if both were stripped that is.

 

Small compare betwen all CPU in my GATEWAY FX

T7500 2,2/4MB/800

3DMark 05 - 12880 ptk
3DMark 06 - 8263 ptk
wPrime 32M - 38,331 s
wPrime 1024M - 1211,323 s

T7800 2,6/4MB/800

3DMark 05 - 14155 ptk
3DMark 06 - 8623 ptk
wPrime 32M - 31,246 s
wPrime 1024M - 1005,64 s

T9300 2,5/6MB/800

3DMark 05 - 14210 ptk
3DMark 06 - 8619 ptk (9675 ptk after OC)
wPrime 32M – 30,669 s
wPrime 1024M - 976,997 s

T9500 2,6/6MB/800

3DMark 05 - 14265 ptk
3DMark 06 - 8738 ptk (1005 ptk after OC)
wPrime 32M - 30,452 s
wPrime 1024M - 969,066 s

 

Good Job with the tests. I'm trying to figure out why you need that many processors though.

 

T9500 2,6/6MB/800

3DMark 05 - 14265 ptk
3DMark 06 - 8738 ptk (1005 ptk after OC)
wPrime 32M - 30,452 s
wPrime 1024M - 969,066 s


Also I think there is a "0" missing in the OC'd 3DMARK score or you don't
overclock very well

 

hop on the deal of P6860 over the weekend at bestbuy for $1099 dollars, couldnt resist. I see lots of people put in T9300 here...but I have my budget constraints.....would anyone mind confirming that T8300 will also work in this lappy?....THanks....

Howard

 

you should have no problem putting a T8300 into the laptop. both the 8300 and 9300 are socket p penryn mobile processors.

 

THanks for the feedback, hopefully it will be fine..got a bottle of ocz freeze..should work fine.. ill be back to post results

 

Hi!
I recently changed my T5450 CPU to a T9500. Next to the CPU there was a chip (which I don't know what is for) which uses the same heat pipe as the CPU. There was a blue thermal paste on that chip which I changed to Noctua NT-H1, my question is, that did I do wrong to change the original thermal paste of that chip or it was a good idea?

 

what is the resolution there buddy. dont be just posting 3dmarks with out the res...lol. that could be 640x480 for all we know. lol

and check my post in the other thread about the clocks.

 

Some ppl warn me about bad build quality of p-fx6860 is that right?

 

Just picked the last one from my local Best Buy up. I was really expecting to dislike it, but man... I can't find any flaws. The CPU is still great, although slightly under-powered. I haven't had a chance to run any games yet, but this will come soon.

I think I am most amazed by the build quality. I was expecting the whole "You get what you pay for" phrase to shine true... but man, I can't help but feel like I ripped Gateway off!

I saw on Intel.com the new Quad-Core socket P will be coming out in November. Does anyone know if the Bios will accept this? I would think so... I'll probably just wait till then to upgrade. Of course, I'm not a graphic whore, this 8800GTS is a HUGE step up from my 8400GT!

 

So uhh, taking this thread back to about the top of page 2. Someone was asking about whether or not to leave a thermal pad on the chipset area, or applying thermal paste. Which one did you guys try? I personally have thermal paste in the chipset area (and I kind of applied a crap load because I figured I'm compensating for the larger gap in between). Temps are fine, according to hwmonitor my acpi temps hang around 50-51C.

If you guys have any input on that regard, let me know!