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    HDMI 2 DVI on a p6860

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by jocose, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. jocose

    jocose Notebook Guru

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    Has anyone tried an HDMI 2 DVI cable with the HDMI output on the gateway p series notebooks. I know allot of people disliked the fact that there is no DVI out but I am seeing allot of converters.

    Since HDMI is a digital signal and DVI is a digital signal shouldn't you just need to buy a 10 dollar cable and you could then hook your laptop up to any DVI capable monitor with no loss in quality?

    Is there an issue with doing this that you are aware of or has anyone tried it successfully?

    Thanks
     
  2. TravisBean

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    I dont know about that, but why cant I find a HDMI to component video converter?( yea, I know I'm a little off topic, but same general subject)
     
  3. jocose

    jocose Notebook Guru

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    Well here is a list of cables. Do you need to have an actual converter in order to get this to work? Is an HDMI signal different from a DVI signal?

    tinyurl.com/6kd727

    I cant post urls yet so just copy and past that into your browser.


    Also if you type "hdmi dvi converter" into google and click on the first link you will find a converter.

    As far as finding a component converter I have no clue. It would be much more complex to build because you are going from digital to analog.
     
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  5. jocose

    jocose Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for clearing that up that's a big help. :)
     
  6. jocose

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    Oh by the way Fulltilt, why are you trying to go from a digital signal (HDMI) to an analog signal anyways? The Gateway P series notebooks have VGA out (that's your analog out right there). You want to convert THAT into component, and that's really easy to do.

    Just google this: "vga to component"

    Then click on the first link.
     
  7. TravisBean

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    I have an older HDTV that uses component inputs for the 1080 signal, no HDMI input. All the upconvert dvd players output the higher resolution signal on the HDMI output, not the component output. If I want to use an upconvert DVD player I'll have to convert the HDMI signal to component out cables in order to mate with my HDTV( which happens to be a nice TV, but for lack of a HDMI input)
     
  8. jocose

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    Well if that's what you need to do there ARE converters out there. I just saw one on tiger direct actually, but most of them are well over 100 bux.
     
  9. TravisBean

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    I have seen component to HDMI converters, but no HDMI to component converters. I even E-maled some big warehouse that specialized in that sort of stuff and they didnt have any. If you know of a specific solution, please let me know, you'll get a rep point.
     
  10. jocose

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    Have you seen this:

    (google "convert hdmi to vga" then click on the second link)

    If you use that then you can go to VGA form there you can go to component. I dont know if that would mess with the signal though...
     
  11. TravisBean

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    No solution
     
  12. elusiveflip

    elusiveflip Notebook Consultant

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    I just tried using an HDMI to DVI cable to hook up a TV myself and the video worked, however I couldn't get any sound to come out of the external monitor. All I had was the speakers from my laptop and it wasn't loud enough. Was it because the P6860 FX comes with HDMI 1.2 and not 1.3, so no sound comes out at all? Or is sound supposed to come out but it just won't be 5.1 Audio? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
     
  13. King_Arthur

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    Right click the sound icon in your tray, playback devices, Right click the HDMI out, hit set as default device. Now start your desired application (or restart it if it is already open) and you are good to go.
     
  14. Tybalt39

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    DVI pre-dates HDMI and has no audio support. HDMI was intended to make consumer home theater systems easier to cable as there would be fewer and smaller cables to route.

    HDMI includes HDCP (High-Definition Copy Protection) while DVI doesn't.

    Just run an audio cable from the computer to either the input for the TV or your audio system. The FX series supports either analog audio or optical SPDIF (hidden inside the analog connector). The SPDIF will require a special cable just for the FX (and similar) series as it has to fit into an "analog" 1/8th inch audio jack. There is a tiny LED inside the connector.
     
  15. TravisBean

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    "HDMI includes HDCP (High-Definition Copy Protection) while DVI doesn't. " Mabey thats why I cant find a HDMI to component converter, and why all new upconvert dvd players output the signal on HDMI.(you could still get some LG models about 1 year ago that upconverted on the component out cables) Once again the studios and manufacturers have gotten together to put restraints on "Joe consumer". :(
     
  16. elusiveflip

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    That would explain alot too, I should've known that, heh. Oh well, just need to plug in the extra audio cable.
     
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    Show me a HDMI to component cable/converter
     
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    Nice try, but I need HDMI to component.
     
  21. Tybalt39

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    Because of HDCP rules, an HDMI in to analog Component out will probably not exist. No way to encode the copy-protection onto the analog signal. Plus the manufacturer would have to pay the HDCP fees for every box he built (plus the start-up fee) if he included HDCP in the converter (on the input side only).

    Check this link to one manufacturers forum (hope I'm not in violation here).

    http://forum.gefen.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3919
     
  22. TravisBean

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    I think your correct. My problem is that my HDTV does not have a HDMI input. :(
     
  23. Tybalt39

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    I ran into that problem when I tried to buy an HD-DVD player earlier this year. I could run component video to my 4-year old plasma TV but not HDMI, even though I had a DVI connector on the TV. No HDCP on older DVI, so no worky with HDMI devices. Returned the HD-DVD player.

    If you have DVI on your set you might want to check with the manufacturer to see if it accepts HDCP. I'm told some did (mine didn't). The DVI connector wouldn't even allow my cable box to show programming, just setup information.

    Just recently purchased a 52" LCD and a Blu-Ray player. I suppose it was just as well that I had to take the HD-DVD player back after all. My P-6860FX looks GREAT on the new TV!