HELLO! info about P-6860-FX

ive been trying to search for alot of info and every time i did the website kept poping up so i thought ide join!

i just picked up a P-6860-FX for a heck of a deal (traded my 360 3games and 135bucks for it)

I have some questions. CPU im ditching the 5550 and looking for a T9300 or T9500 anybody know has 1 were i can get 1 im not a ebay fan but 1 is on there for 183 will the cpu help out in gaming? is it worth the upgrade?

graphics card. can u upgrade the 8800mgts 512meg? would a 9800mGTS 1gig better? and were can u find the cards for sale?

turbo pci card 1gb are they worth the 9$ that you can get on ebay?

Thanks all!

 

Look around on the forum "for sell" section to find a cpu, the problem now is that since the cpu it uses is a generation old there aren't as many people buying/selling/upgrading but when you do find one it should be pretty cheap.

The cpu will help out for gaming but I would estimate at least 90% of the time it will not help out enough to take a game from unplayable to playable. The limiting factor for almost every game available is the gpu.

There are threads comparing cpu differences in gaming just search here in the gateway forum, somebody (narsnail? not sure) did a great set of before and after benchmarks after changing a cpu and it should give you more info and you can decide if you want to upgrade or not (as you can see in my sig I changed to the t9300 and it was worth the money imo).

Now concerning the gpu you cannot upgrade it. You are stuck with what you have but the truth is the card is not really fast enough to use more than 512mb of ram and the fact is the 9800gts is basically the same card you have, just clocked slightly higher.

The conclusion I came to about turbo memory is that it makes no discernible difference and is not worth the time or money, but others may have read/experienced differently.

 

Thank you for the info. Im at work right now and im not sure what bios i have is it worth upgrade the bios? sence im stuck with the video card what about overclocking sence the 8800m and the 9800m are prety much the same can i overlock the 8800m to reac the 9800m? and be safe?

 

I have not altered/updated my bios because I never had a reason to and therefore I don't really know anything about it in regards to your laptop (some people may have updated to try and support quad-core processors or try and overclock the cpu but not sure).

The 8800gts is overclockable but there is a safe way to do it and then there is a wrong way. Search around and info should not be hard to find either in the gateway section or in the gaming section.

Do not just use the clocks someone else reports because all gpu's are different and what works for one card could burn another one up. I haven't overclocked mine since the first few weeks when I bought it but I would guess you should be able to hit the clocks of the 9800gts and probably even higher.

 

I like the 6860 (i actually have one... so that might be the reason)

The t9300/t9500 are both good CPU's and you will be pleased with the preformance boost. The huge speed boost and the doubling of your cache will help in just about everything you do.

As to the 8800gts. You can pretty easily match the 9800gts clocks. Though the 9800 can OC much higher safely. Its not a huge increase in preformance, but to each their own.

Your BIOS are fine. You can update to the .31 BIOS if you want, but unless you need VT its pretty much a non-issue. I wish they would have released on that would allow for overclocking beyond 3.0gHz, but alas they didnt.

 

just recently upgraded my processor, if u dont have alot of money the t8300 is a great choice. 2.4GHZ 3meg cache, its a great processor, i got mine and love it.

as for overclocking, i have never overclocked the 8800m gts, but its time has passed, but it can still play the latest games, maybe not all on high settings but mostly yes.

im running a dual boot, im running xp nd win 7, win 7 as main os, for work and such and win xp for gaming, im not bothered with dx10 gaming, the games perform better in xp for the most part for me.

for the graphics card if your going to overclock i suggest putting some as5 thermal past on it, mine isnt overclocked but the as5 brought the temp down a little

 

i found a T9300 on ebay for 180 bucks free shipping but he lives in japan lol.... i have win7 on the laptop now xp is begging to show its age vista is just dog crap and win 7 actully is not bad. will 800mhz memory with the cpu make any diffrence? sould i also get a 7200 rpm hard drive? i havent cracked the laptop open yet but why cant we change out the 8800m? i thought it was a dedicated card.

a guy messaged me saying he had a T7200 for 80bucks would it be worth it or just stick with the T9300?

 

800mHz RAM will down clock to 667, but will generally give you better timings.

A 7200rpm drive will give slight increase in performance but nothing stellar. If your wanting Hard drive increases you'll have to get a SSD (they rock by the by)

Stay away from the t7xxx series of CPU's they are buget CPUs and while better than the t5xxx series they are still crap. Go with the t9300/t9500/x9000, even if it means you have to save up for it. It will be well worth the wait

 

does the mobo not support the ram to run at 800mhz? even with a 800mhz fsb cpu?
i was looking at SSD but those thing are still expensive. i have the money now to do what ever i want its just that im looking for deals

is there a certain video card drive that is the best for the card? im running the latest video drives from nvidia if so were can i grab it from?

 

Nope, we're hardware stuck at 667. Which is no big deal. Not even Montivena CPUs can max out the bandwidth of 667mHz RAM.

If your wanting a good deal on HD then jsut get the largest 5400RPM drive. You really wont be able to tell the difference between 5400 and 7200 RPM its pretty small all things considered.

As to the driver, its according to what you want from the driver. Each of them have a little difference to offer. Are you wanting to benchmark or run very stable or get good game performance. There are a couple of different drivers that are good at each of them

 

the gpu cant be removed from this laptop, it is dedicated yes but its on the motherboard, so its a no go for switching it

also if your gonna play games i recommend the latest dox driver (whatever number it may be now) and get yourself a free program called game booster, basicly it shuts down al other processes and puts win 7 in basic mode, to make game performance to max, then when your done, you switch back to normal mode, gives a good few fps increases for me

 

Hi there. Interesting discussion, particularly for me since I've finally decided to upgrade my 6831fx to a T9300 too. Just wondering if I need to buy the new processor with a heatsink, or will the one currently on the T5450 be good to go for the new proc?

 

im prety u use the old heat sink the t9300 is 45nm witch uses less power witch makes it cooler.

 

no need for a new heatsing.just pop in the new one (with the right amount of thermal paste of course!) and start fragging!

 

does the color seem off on your guys's lcd? my yellow and green seem werid any suggestions on how to tweak it Ive try ed playing with the nvidia drives but it still seems off to me.

 

Have you installed nTune? You can adjust the colors and digital vibrance and everything there

 

negitive i may do that. did u have to adjust your self? i thought the nvidia drives installed ntune.

 

nope, but go to iaTa's driver thread (at the top of this subforum) and he has the link to the newest nTune programs.

Its worth it to get them. Its good for overclocking and tweaking the display to get really nice results.

 

Colour management is built into the Forceware drivers, just right click on the desktop and goto the nVidia Control Panel.

nTune doesn't exist any more by the way - it's nVidia System Tools.

 

that's were i tried to adjust the vivid and bright and contrast i didn't see any color management.

 

Ah... i guess i've had the tools installed so long that i forgot what is automatically included with the drivers

They arent called nTune anymore? weird. I guess its time to update those as well to see whats new. (anything worth changing over for?)

 

Hi Kamin. Sorry, been out of the driver scene for a while now, so can't really be of help there.

Thanks for the heatsink confirmation, mokylim and swiftsniper.

 

man i love this notebook but ive been thinking.... if i spend 200$ on a cpu i can all most get a asus from bestbuy if i sell my laptop for around 600 witch there is 1 going for on ebay right now. its the GTX260M a better upgrade? would this be the smart thing todo?

here is the asus from bestbuy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366651&type=product&id=1218092150636

 

The 260GTX is a very nice card, and the Asus is a relatively solid system. But the ones at bestbuy are kinda poorly designed. They run one cooling unit to try to cool the entire system. So GPU and CPU are both relying on the single fan to keep them cool (which is pretty much a failure in my opinion)

 

here is the benchmarks for those cards, the gtx260 has a slower clock speed and less shaders, but the memory speed is higher. but it has more pixel shaders so it will perform better on higher resolutions than the other 2 cards.

here :

notebook graphics benchmark comparison

 

i relly need to see game FPS more then 3dmark. so if i upgrade my cpu ide be pulling close fps with a gtx260m?

 

You'd be close. The 260GTX is still basically a 8800GTX that's just die shrunk. They haven't changed cores since then. But the 260GTX is about 15ish% more powerful than the 8800GTS.

That's why i was hoping for the 260GTS in these machines. Only about 3% less powerful than the GTX and runs at almost half the power draw, and it actually uses the new 212 core. Which while not insanely impressive is much more efficient than the 92 core.

 

i have no probs with mine at stock, no overclock and the 8800m gts seems to play more or les anything, maybe not on high sometimes, but it really dosent bother me.

how much of an increase would it be in games with an ssd hard drive, would it only increase the loading times ??

 

The SSD would only effect load times. Hard drives have next to no impact on gaming.

Though it is an amazing upgrade, and i whole heartedly agree that everyone should have them

 

i came from a desktop with a HD 4870 1gb so my expections are a little high for me lol.

 

its a 4870 i have in my desktop, the 512 version tho not the 1gb, it plays everything on high, i have it overclocked to, i do plan to get and ssd drive tho,

for the laptop that is, hopefully next week, one of those readdy for windows 7, that would just be great. Im thinking ocz vertex, there sweet as and in my price range

 

So i just picked up a T9500 for the same price as a T9300 lol i know its only 100mhz difference but for the same price i couldn't com plane.i think i should be happy. u think anybody would want my T5550? lol

 

You could possibly sell it for $50 on ebay but the truth is it is about the weakest processor available for computers that use that socket so its not really an upgrade for many people so there is little to no demand. I gave mine away for free in the forum trade section because I didn't feel like hassling with it and someone said they could use it.

 

yeah i know...damn it i wish they were worth something..

 

i sold mine for like 10 quid to my friend, there really not worth much, the ones on ebay for like 50 never sell, i watched a few before i sell them

 

well after i orderd my new cpu... my buddy wanted to laptop so i sold it to him and im gonna be selling the T9500 now i went to best buy and pruchused a asus G71 i love this thing but the only things i hate there is no head phone jack and no 1080p res outer then that this thing is prety sweet.

 

it is part of the motherboard, it is not removable

 

already answered in earlier posts