Help make Gateway realize we want Xp.

Hello, I know many of us are losing our liking for Gateway (well at least I am) because of the Vista only on newer computers. I have been a loyal customer to them for many years now (approx. 1998). Everyone that has come to me and asked "What computer should I get?" has been told, "I haven't had problems with Gateway so I would start with them and see if they have what you want." Well now Gateway is making me mad. Many techs might remember when AMD almost went bankrupt because of techs stopping their support of AMD. The same can happen to Gateway.

I've sent an email to Gateway telling them that I am no longer supporting them, or there products, until they support Xp again. I ask you to send emails to them requesting them to help you find Xp drivers for your Vista machine. I'm not asking you to take drastic measures like I did, just send emails requesting help for Xp, but they seem to take more head to more drastic ones. Thank you!

 

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I'm just mad about how even if we put Xp on ourselves they don have at least drivers for it.

 

true that we cant put XP just because of the drivers. its not gateway's fault =/ dell probably paid alot to MS just to keep selling with an XP option, all manufacturers and devices are moving to vista leaving XP behind, + its much cheaper too. if u must blame the components manufacturer.

 

i dont blame them, i havent had to much of a problem getting drivers for xp from them, its gateway thats telling people they arent out there and lying about their products. notice the mini pcie slot in the t1620/1616 that gateway says isnt there?

 

maybe they didnt want customers to know that about the bluetooth im sure its proprietary thing..so you can only get it from gateway =/

 

whats with all this about no xp? just go out and get a copy of it. It took me a little while to find all the drivers but so far its working just fine

 

how did you get sound working? and they need it all on their site or at least help you with it. and about the bluetooth you need to get one with the radio built in, they pulled out the bluetooth radio too. point of this is they should be a brave company and stand up to M$. if dell can do it so can they.

 

I apologize I didn't even realized the sound wasn't working, laptop does indeed have several problems with xp. Actually after several hours I went back to vista and xp didn't even offer much better results in 3dmark06

 

lol. thats alright. sorry you havent had as much luck as the rest of us.

 

I really would rather use xp, but the drivers where driving me nuts. That and 3dmark 06 only went up by 90 points.

 

I realize we can put Xp on ourselves, I am just saying it would be nice to have a tad bit of help from them, i mean cant they make it a little easier to switch? I have vista backed up but really dont want to go back to it, it has horrible inconsistency when it comes to games and isnt all that secure, its a memory hog, i went from using 800mb of RAM (yes bloatware was uninstalled) and constant 15% cpu usage to using 150mb of RAM and vitually no CPU usage idling. to me Vista is a bad choice for laptops.

 

Honestly I think you people should stop being reactionaries and overreacting about having Vista. At this point it is basically as stable as XP and as far as gaming you maybe lose what, 3 fps? Oh yeah and the memory thing, you do know that Vista dynamically uses all the memory available right? On this computer I started with 2 gigs and vista used about 50-60% right after booting up, now after upgrading to 4 gigs it still uses 50-60% right after starting, strange. Not sure about the CPU usage thing, on both of my vista computers they are normally between 0 and 5%.

Sorry if I seem a little hostile, I get really REALLY sick of all this anti-vista stuff.

 

I have everything working, I dont know if its ok to post the link but I can help you with the audio driver if you want to try XP again

I've talked with support about my downgrading to XP and everything working fine, but each person says they wont give tech support for it (actually I found one guy, really cool who tried helping with my battery problem)

@ronin: I tried getting into Vista, but I really dont need any of the features, I dont need the hassle of finding new drivers for my printer, gamepad, etc. plus since I do tech support sometimes it helps to helps to have what most people use. Vista imo should have been released this month instead of last January but thats moot now

 

vista is alright. nano please post or share all the drivers you have even for sound and stuff. are there any missing devices in your device manager? the battery problem could either be the battery OR because of XP.

 

wow im kinda surprised. i emailed gateway with a threatening email and they offered help on getting xp running! heres the email i sent:

No sound drivers for Xp, laptop model T-1620. I have

found all drivers except for sound, with no thanks given to Gateway,
now
either you guys start resupporting Xp very soon, or you will lose many
customers. I am no longer supporting, or recommending, Gateway
computers
until you guys start helping us. Many techs are getting angry with your

choice of only using Vista now. Techs almost brought down AMD and they
can bring down Gateway. Now if I could have some sound drivers?

i recieved a link back for drivers and they that they said should work for my laptop, and that if i need help installing them or further drivers for xp to email back

 

lol bunnywinkles good on you! do tell us your experience and maybe share the drivers

 

Please, If any one has links to the Xp Drivers for the new gateway P-6831 FX, especially the sound driver, PLEASE
POST! nanospyda? Thanks

 

they only gave e the sound driver and warned that they dont support xp yada yada and that they shouldnt be helping me and whatnot, lol but they are same drivers on the other forums, i honestly didnt need them just felt like venting at gateway, but if you need driers i got my sys running xp with no errors, just some video unstability but that should be fixed with the next catalyst release

 

You can post the link for the xp audio drivers. Thats the last driver I need, I found everything else.

 

bwhxeon:
Then can you provide some linkage for all you have? Thanks

 

here are the chipset and SATA drivers.

The chipset drivers will remove a few of the yellow ?. Just about everything else I found by updating the drivers and using the auto online search. If you get me those sound drivers I'll do some xp game testing tonight.

 

The Intel chipset drivers can be had as they install in xp/vista anyway- Is that all you have really? because your a long way off, not to mention the sound. what about the rest of them? modem/wireless/ect?

 

The Xp sound driver package can be had off of the DVD recovery disk (if you created one) here:
dvddrive:\I386\apps\app002022\HDAQFE\WDM\winxp

I think a lot of the vista drivers in the \apps folder will probably work in XP like the nic modem ect.
I'm going to install the sound package on my 80gig xp test drive & see what else I can install off the restore dvd

 

Update: The Xp IDT sound drivers install, but won't start
If you put in recovery disk & say repair sound, it installs a different driver from Sigmatel (IDT bought them), but that does the same thing. I did get the following to install off the recovery disk:
Agere Modem=yes
Esata=yes
bluetooth=no
Intel Wlan=yes
RealtekLan=yes
realtek USB Card reader=yes
Intel Matrix Storage Mgr=yes
USB Mass storage device=yes
Still 4 "Other" devices, 1 network controller, 3 "unknowns"

 

You didn't provide anything....people need to know where to download the driver and at this point not interested in helping someone who can't even update his drivers to get the right one.

 

Look, this is a trial and errror deal. At least I'm trying, what are you doing besides trying to sound like you know it all?

 

Ok... I have tried literally every driver from gateway and sony's website, I have modified INF files, I have tried almost everything I can think of. We need a driver from gateway, or someone who knows how to modify the driver files to accept the newer hardware ids.

 

Ok, I just got out of chat with gateway, and he linked me to the following driver from intel:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2372&DwnldID=13706&strOSs=44&OSFullName=Windows* XP Professional&lang=eng

Im not at home right now, so I cant try it, but maybe someone else can give it a shot and report back on the results. This one looks more promising because it has a different folder structure... and the gateway chat representative was certain this is the correct driver.

 

This driver will NOT install in win XP- same old "device cannot start" code 10 as every other of the 10 or so drivers I've tried. I tried the .exe setup route, and a forced install, but no go. I've been using XP for about a week now, as I got a Hitachi 200 gig 7200rpm to install on, the work aound I have is a Logitech USB Audio Hub, which emulates a sound card, and works perfect for kick ass sound, and 3 more USB ports as well. Sweet unit. So's XP.

P-6831FX
Intel® Core™ 2 Processor T7700 2.4.GHz 4MB Cache 800MHz FSB
NVidia® 512MB 8800m GTS GDDR3
17" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD
4gig OCZ PC5300 Ram
7200 rpm Hitachi 200 gig
Windows XP SP2

 

Ok I think I may be able to rig a driver pack to work, but unfortunately I didnt make the recovery disc, my drive is wiped and gateway does not have it on their website, so if someone could zip their entire vista audio driver folder and post it, I could get started.

 

ok i was gone fore awhile and this is looking more like a help installing xp thread, give me a day to try and track down the drivers i used, if that, looks like you only need audio so ill try and get it for you. i got mine working so ill get what i used.

 

great. I am really REALLY curious now to see which driver actually works.

 

Ok i finally got it...

All you have to do to get the IDT driver (the one on the gateway recovery disc) to work is:

Add the following 2 lines to the top of 92xxM4-10DM.ini directly under [Models]:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76B0&SUBSYS_107B0692=this
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76B0=this

AND add these 2 lines to sthda.ini under [Models]:

HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76B0&SUBSYS_107B0692=92xxM4-10DM.ini
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76B0=92xxM4-10DM.ini


If someone has trouble, ill just zip up my winxp wdm folder and put it on rapidshare or something.

 

Most excellent!!- This works!!- I now have the onboard IDT sound working in XP!! Bob- you are one smart guy my friend!! Now I can plug my Klipsch Pro Medias in the headphone jack and rock!! Kudos to Bob!!

P-6831FX
Intel® Core™ 2 Processor T7700 2.4.GHz 4MB Cache 800MHz FSB
NVidia® 512MB 8800m GTS GDDR3
17" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD
4gig OCZ PC5300 Ram
7200 rpm Hitachi 200 gig
Windows XP SP2
IDT Audio/Klipsch Pro Media 2.1

 

Thank you so much I now only have 3 unknowns to go.

okiprec

 

If you could do that it would be great. I wiped my recovery partition at from day 1 =/.