Here's out enemy, Asus G50VT-X1

Available in BB these days, equipped with perhaps 9800M GT/GS, P8400, RAID 320GB, BUT resolution is 1366 x 768, 15", and 2lbs lighter than 7811FX.

I am actually curious to see if it's possible to support Q9100 or QX9300 CPUs. If so, I might get that as well

This laptop is out meaning m15x is getting into HOT watter ---- 3grand + for a laptop...

 

Its still got a comparitivly weak GPU and a crap screen resolution.

And being an Asus means it will run at like 9,000,000 degrees

 

its not a 9800m gt as it scores less than the 9800gts on 3dmark.

its either a downclocked 9800m gts or a rebarnded 9700m gts

 

its a 530/1325 64 shader G94

hardly weak

 

The only thing we have to see is....how compact the parts are together, because yes, it may be hot when you OC it. People in the forums have been trying to do 3DMark2006. Actually the 9800M GT/GS did do as 'ok' as 9800M GTS, but such the downclocked GPU already gave them 75C. I doubted if I can OC that to the 9800M GTS level and get the similar scores.

For the resolutions, yes, it's low, but if you can turn on the eye candies, it's just pretty much about the same as high resolutions:

e.g. You got 4xAA and 16xAF in 1366 x 768 while 0xAA and 16xAF in 1900 x 1200. Of course there's still difference but it's actually not 'THAT' bad. Considering 2lbs lighter, it's much easier to carry that out.

We are still not sure if G50VT will support Q9100 or QX9300, but our 7811FX has not supported it 'THUS FAR', so let's see how the race goes.

 

I said comparatively weak (actually said comparitivly, but that was a bad typo )

@Angelakers
the 9800m GT and the 9800mGS are completely different cards. The GS is a step below the GTS while the GT is the step above
(i have no idea why they actually made a GS card though, 3 "top teir" cards seems to be plenty to me personally)

Also that while you can enable alot more "eye candy" on a weaker resolution screen you also suffer from the screen size on things non-gaming. The difference, as you said, wont be that bad for gaming. It will start to suck in other places assuming you use a computer for anything not gaming related.

As to the 2lbs... is that really considered alot of weight? I can understand the size difference being a positive for some people... but if 2lbs breaks you then something is terribally wrong

 

1. Video card: Yup, but really hope people can finally confirm it's only having 64 shader proc. Then we will know it's really a downclocked 9800M GTS. One bad thing is I believe Asus is a little better than Gateway so they may be able to determine whether G50VT is going to support QX9300 sooner than Gateway.

2. Basically I agree with you.

3. If you got my history of laptops, then you'd know what my preferences are So you see 7811FX is my first laptop ever with 9+ lbs so...)

Toshiba:

Portege 3480CT, Portege R100(All gone)

Asus:

A2L(Gone), S5N(Gone), W3V(Gone), G1S-X1(Actually sold three weeks ago)

Sony:

TR2AP(Sold), T150(Sold), TX770P(Sold), X505ZP(w me now), TZ150N(w me now), TZ198N(w me now)

Apple:

Powerbook G4 15" (1.5GHz, ATi 9700M)(Sold), Macbook Air(w me now)

Gateway:

7811FX

 

besides, how is choice for consumers an enemy?

I have the G50 coming hopefully next week. I will then choose between it and the 6831FX.

This old puppy is still running strong!

 

Well seems like that's the case....

HOWEVER, the main point is if this laptop does not overheat when the 9800M GS is overclocked to 9800M GTS, THEN this will attract me(at least) to get one G50VT as well.

WHEN this even supports Q9100 and QX9300, this will definitely be a beast to look forward to.

 

only guy who got it so far had his crap out the next day. 100% failure rate so far. not good.

 

Not true. Several people report being happy with it.

 

Decided to get one G50VT today. Just purchased. I will try to:


1. Test the X9100 on the machine and see if it's working nicely.
2. Benchmark the X9100 and 9800M GS and overclock the 9800M GS to see if it's catching up with the 9800M GTS in 7811FX.
3. See if the temperatures are ok to overclock to that high. Might try Q9100 or QX9300 on it and see if a.the laptop supports Q9100/QX9300 and b. if the temp issue is really serious as a 15" inch laptop.

 

Awesome. Asus sent review samples out last week so there will be reviews soon. But you can still be the first!

I backed out of getting mine from Asus - my CDN petro dollar is slumping badly. This would have been an easy decision when the currencies were at par.

 

I will be able to test the X9100 right away, but not sure if I will get Quad Core CPUs yet. The beauty about this laptop is it supports overclocking already.

 

I like it and wanted Asus but 1366 x 768 just doesen't cut it....I would love to have the Asus bios though!

 

I was looking at a Asus G50 version before I bought my Gateway. I then got my 7811, but I also bought a ASUS 9800 GT Vid card. I called their tech support. Lets just say that the vid card got returned and I will never purchase another ASUS product again. Ever. They have joined my list of crap companies along with D-Link, Sprint, Bank of America, and any Sony Online game.


Yes I know I bought a Gateway laptop, and they are supposed to have terrible tech support but in my defense they haven't pissed me off yet!

I really need to learn how to build my own laptops.. lol.

 

How would one go about getting a review sample? I'm curious because there was one review of the 7811 in which the reviewer was given a 7811 with all of the same specs except for one addition - it had a fingerprint reader, suggesting they used the casing from the 173 line. When I saw this I tried pretty hard to get a review sample from both Gateway, Acer, and Best Buy, even offering to pay a little extra. I was never connected to someone high up enough despite the lies about my certifications (I kept getting forwarded to Tiger Direct, who does not even carry the 7811).

So what do your certifications have to be, who do you try to contact, etc? Just curious of course. And I assume you still have to purchase the laptop as well, or do you review it and then send it back?

 

Ive had the 7811fx for a few weeks now, as my first laptop. I thought it would be nice to have 17" 1920x1200. well in response to previous post I will say this. There is a very good reason 15.4 lappies are the standard. moving the 7811 is pretty much always a 2-handed operation. and using it in public can feel a bit tacky (purely cuz of size). The ONLY reason Im considering switching to G50vt-x2 is to get rid of about 2.5 lbs and an inch or so off each side. It may not seem like much but really it is. And when you add a bag big enoght to hold it...There is a practical compromise of size/screen/weight and 15.6 is it. 17" teases me into wanting a 'laptop' instead of a 'really portable desktop'. Since its possible to use in all the ways u use 15, I do, but it annoys me because I know how much better 15 would be. speaking of laptop it literally gets heavy much quicker in your lap. I know because I have an accurate scale. 7811 weight almost exactly 9 lbs. (slightly under listed spec).
I made a dummy 6.5 lb laptop out of a clipboard and a milk jug, and 2.5 lbs less makes a big difference.It may make a bigger difference than between 4 lbs and 6.5 lbs, because there really is a 'threshold of incumberance' and I think its about 7 lbs. It you try to lift 17 by grabbing in pad area (with it open) with one had it feels like it will strain your wrist and 6.5 lb pretty much doesnt. I havnt totally made my mind since I really like the 7811 otherwise. But if I could get a 1920x1200 15" with same card for similar price I think I would do. GTS barely does it for me so I dont really want to lose any. 1050x1680 should be okay though. Its almost as high pixel density as 7811 so it should look close to a 'cropped' 7811. I change resolution alot and higher res draws lower ones sharper.
But I like highest for games etc. Im trying to decide if I should switch to G50vt-x2, I have no interest in the x1. regarding Asus, Im not some fan or anything but they are WAY better than gateway in customer service, and design quality and reliability. I dont consider Asus a co I would flame. I would flame Virgin, Blockbuster, Brighthouse/timewarner. I would almost flame Gateway at least for the pay-for-tech support crap. Having seen the Asus though I would say I like the Gateway at least as much if they made 15.4 fx I would do that. Fx has a little copper-orange but Asus has ORANGE.
No easy way to change that really. you cant skin it, too narrow etc would peel. painting, not worth it IMO. though it I got it I would prob just skin the larger areas of orange. oh well at least its not Tosh qosmi-no! (qosmio) ouch that thing is the ugliest lappy ever.

 

lol

post a picture will you ?

 

Don't forget the ratio... asus is 16:9 gateway 16:10... it wont be much less wide... width: asus 14.8" vs gateway 15.75"

 

This thread says G50VT-X1, but Im interested in the G50VT-X2, which has a
16:10, 1050x1680 dispay and is similar in size to X1. it sells for 1350 instead of 1100 and has faster cpu p8600. re: 15 vs 17-Also to me that inch makes a difference.
(witholding crude comment lol). When size is pushed to asthetic and ergonomic limit (15.4" IMO after my experience with 17"), anything beyond that(mostly) defeats the purpose of laptop. I would post picture of simulated 6.5 laptop, but its just a milkjug filled with water to weigh the difference of 6.5 lbs and a clipboard its sitting on.

 

oh come on... how can we NOT take that the wrong way and make comments about it

I'm the opposite, i cant stand 15in laptops. They are too light and small. I want a full keyboard for data entry and i want a weight that doesnt feel like a stiff wind is going to carry the thing away.

I still cant get over how many people find a few pounds of weight a big deal... you all need to come to work for me and roughneck for a few months. Having things under 200 lbs becomes a blessing in so many ways

We still want the pic of the laptop jug

 

I'm fairly happy with my 6860, but in the two times that I've called for tech support they were utterly useless, and I had to resort to troubleshooting on my own for a few hours.

The thing that would push me toward Asus is the tech support plus the standard 2 year parts and labor and the 1 year accidental damage warranties.
Just my 2(no cents symbol on a keyboard is dumb).

 

kamin what are you pushing which is 200 lbs + ?
are you making new batman toys ? i thought those were extra light as to hight tech alloys and carbon fiber ****...

 

200+ LBS... everything

I work in the land of steel. Oil rigs are unfortunatly not my batcave so unlike when i fight crime in my light weight new batsuit, most everything out here is VERY heavy. Its a blessing when its something you can actually carry as opposed to dragging and hoping you dont get hernias

Youtube roughnecks and see. Tey to find a video of them working the drill floor with out an Iron Roughneck... throwing 200-400lbs tongs for 12 hours will wear most everyone out.

 

The screen resolution isn't really a con. At 1366x768, you can enable a higher level of AA, which negates the impact of the lower resolution. Heck, at 800x600, turn on 16xAA and see how it looks.

 

gotta disagree with you there. I saw one at BB and text looks like crap IMO. And I dont play games lower than 1600x1200 (well I will take 1050x1680) higher AA does not totally negate it, but more important you just cant see as well, especially at a distance in the game. everything just looks better at higher res. When I play Im pretty intense about it. I have to have my monitor, mouse, ergonomics just right or I feel handicapped and its not as fun. Thats why Im beginning to question the point of gaming on lappy at all for me. But I still like the idea of having the power there to plug into external monitor. I get what I think is monitor refresh lag, and bad tearing on 7811 screen. I know part of that is monitor rate at 60. Ive never played on better LCD. I am CRT holdout. i tried 7811 on crt, it does tear less. Vertical sync is not a viable option IMO, it creates unfixable mouse lag in any game Ive ever seen. I only play games (FPS) that require the fastest mouse response possible jaggies, tearing, texture flicker, monitor refresh blur, etc are all distracting and keep me from playing my best, even if I get decent mouse response. I wonder if the Asus panels are faster than this gateway.
too bad they dont publish such things (not that those figures are always useable).