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    How to "UPGRADE" your 7811 to WinXP 32bit

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by fire268, Sep 5, 2008.

  1. NoDecaf

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    as an IT profressional you should have heard of vmware :p

    i purchased mine for the same reason as you, and run xp pro in a virtual machine. works perfectly.

    i also have server 2003 running in a second vm. can't tell you how many times that's come in handy....
     
  2. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    LOL I'm looking forward to a lot of colorful commentary. This place needs a little sparking.

    "microwave popcorn ready to go just in case"
     
  3. NoDecaf

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    is it the buttery kind? :D
     
  4. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    Totally buttered LOL Good humor, you'll fit in fine.
     
  5. DestruyaX

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    Bumping this because it's fallen *way* too far down, and if I had to dig for it, others probably have too.
     
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    just started a thread looking for opinions on going 32bit or 64bit with XP.. Im gonna go 32bit. As, this guide is much better than the non-existant guide for 64bit. :) +rep to OP
     
  7. DestruyaX

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    I like Vista64...but I'm running into far too many problems with 32-bit apps opening hemorrhage-like memory leaks with it. I'll probably just pick up a 320GB 7200.3 and have Vista64 on the 200GB, and XP on the 320. Dual boot the smart way.

    And no RAID! >_<
     
  8. E-wrecked

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    That is smart.. I just took my 2 RAID drives out and dropped in the OEM Seagate, installed 32bit XP..and now im bout to enable sound. It seems to run smoothe. But I like the way Vista looks, much better :)
     
  9. ShortBtwnHdset

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    Yeah, Vista is easy on the eyes! Of course, XP ain't what it used to be. Someday, I should total up all the freakin updates in Gigs on my desktop system. I can remember when I could play C&CRed Alert 2 and Yuris on dialup! :mad:
     
  10. fire268

    fire268 Notebook Consultant

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    Or how about co-op Doom via null-modem cable...
     
  11. DestruyaX

    DestruyaX Notebook Evangelist

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    Speaking of hard drives, ZipZoomFly has 320GB 7200.3s for $89.99. After shipping it comes out to $97.27, which is less than the 109 Newegg wants. The 7200.3 slightly outperforms the Scorpio Black and uses less power, too.
     
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    Hey guys..mad props to this whole thread, and fire..GREAT walkthrough. +rep to ya. I'm a bit behind on installing XP, seeing as y'all did this a month ago :) But, it worked flawlessly. Thank you.

    EDIT: I guess that crown and coke last night made me forget I already repped ya..but I'll get ya again! ;)
     
  13. DestruyaX

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    What's the verdict on the eSATA port?
     
  14. E-wrecked

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    Personally, no clue.
     
  15. GTO_PAO11

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    what do you think of windows xp gaming edition? does it exists?
     
  16. Syngensmyth

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    I just ordered a box so will let you know in a few days.

    Edit: I bet you mean under XP which I am not running ATM.
     
  17. rgc52

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    I bought a 7811 for my Son in Iraq and have run into just about all the issues seen here. In my haste to get XP on the box and shipped out, and not realizing this thread was working - I opted for a Creative Labs X-FI SB0950 and external speakers. As with much of this scenario - no plug 'n' play. Trying to figure out how to truly disable the audio on the main board in order to get things to work. Any thoughts would be appreciated. By the way, fire268, an awesome job. And thank you for sharing a much more direct path than most of us plodders were able to manage on our own.
     
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    eSATA port is a no go under XP still.
     
  19. fire268

    fire268 Notebook Consultant

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    11. Chicony Webcam (mic not working yet):
    12. OS Media Reader MR510:

    there something wrong.11 and 12 IS a same Web site~~~

    I guess the author should have got it wrong, and I use the same computer , I now need to OS Media Reader MR510 correct address, I HOPE the author can GIVE ME. I come from China. I am very grateful to the authors.
     
  21. fire268

    fire268 Notebook Consultant

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    Obviously, other people do not seriously read your Article. I am very surprised you updated so fast, you are a Worthy of respect American, and I hope make friends with you, my MSN: [email protected].
     
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    jerrylee Newbie

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    think you need to install Matrix Storage Manager,THAT IS USEFUL when you use two Hard drives.The machine has 2 hard drive slots.If you do not add a new hard drive, then can not install it.I will add a 1TB hard disk.SO i need install.
     
  24. rancid

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    So what is going on with this patch that is breaking the fix? I have not patched my laptop so I can't comment on it. If you have patched and it broke my work around please pm me so I can start working on a solution. I have a pretty good idea what the issue is.

    On another note, has anyone figured out how to get the eSATA port working under XP?
     
  25. fire268

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    Nope not here, and yes, it's not working on my end... still doing research sorry to say.
     
  26. Alex.Zvook

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    Maybe my question has been answered already but: Did anyone of you guys was able to make WinXP Pro SP2 32bit to show the complete 4GB RAM that this P-7811FX has?.....

    I was able to install WinXP Pro SP2 32bit as this guide shows but windows can only see "2.99GB RAM" available....., anyone?, I read some other threads about WinXP 32bit NOT being able to "see" more than 3GB RAM but I thought people on this thread could help me to clarify this issue, so: is it possible for this machine to "see" the 4GB RAM on WinXp Pro 32bit?.....

    Regards
     
  27. Space_Ranger

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    I don't believe you're gonna be able to. 32bit XP won't be able to address the full 4GB of RAM.
     
  28. wootage

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    Actually, WinXP 32-bit can totally see all of the RAM. But it won't show it to you, because it takes a huge chunk and uses it to virtualize all of the hardware. It could do better, but this is Microsoft programming we're talking about lol. So no, there's no hope for it that I could find, and I looked pretty hard.

    But be happy that you're not Vistafied, being constantly annoyed by popup questions, having your programs not work without going to files to give them admin permissions, and oh yeah, giving up a gig of memory and 25 gig of hard drive space just to make the computer run at all lol.
    I am happy that DX9 games rock out as fast as they can go on XP without any of Vista's compatibility and performance issues. The word is you gain 20-25% FPS by going with XP, but I haven't measured it myself.
     
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    bumped for the person looking for XP
     
  31. Vision33r

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    I think a lot of folks who insist on using XP is just wasting your resources.

    I run Vista 64bit Ultimate on my 7811FX, clean install with vLite. Thing runs like a champ when you have all the bloat excluded from the install using vLite, on top of that use Vista Manager and it auto-configures Vista optimally.

    Like the OP, I need XP for work, since Cisco VPN does not work in Vista yet and a bunch of Cisco stuff only works on 32bit.

    Vmware is the solution, I run Vmware 6.5 with multiple virtual machines on my P7811FX and never chokes my laptop. I play a lot of WOW and COD4 and having the VMs running in the background doesn't even slow down the laptop much.

    If you seriously think XP has less bulk and performs better than Vista, you really ought to learn some Vista tweaking and once you understand the OS better you work faster, more productive, and even gaming performance is on par with XP.

    So what you lose a few 3Dmark points, this is a notebook not a desktop.

    More and more games will be out for DX10, I rather use Vista.
     
  32. wootage

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    Either way, you have to learn something, either learning how to get XP to run despite the lack of driver support, or learning how to get Vista not to run like a piece of crap lol.

    BTW, using nothing more than the Control Panel and not even going into any System properties, Services, etc., I broke Vista so bad my 7811 wouldn't boot up and took 2 Repair operations to fix lol. Doing nothing more than "tweaking it" according to the directions I was reading online.

    My take- if I have to learn something, I'd rather learn the something that gives me something back. My stock 6860 runs XP like a champ - it snaps programs up as fast as my 7811 does, and the battery life is equal despite using higher power components.

    What then could my 7811 do with XP, provided I can overcome the industry conspiracy against XP drivers? Run even faster, with longer battery life, and without buying Vista Manager for 40.00, and VMWare for how much??

    Oh and I'm just curious- how much time does it take to do all of this Vlite, clean install, Vista Manager, and VMWare setup?
     
  33. Big Mike

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    http://www.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=767611

    Download that and manual install it on the last 3 unidentified pieces of hardware (should be PNP0C32, PNP0C32/2 etc), they're just ACPI buttons (the DVD button, music note button and I can't figure out what #3 is). Without a software app they're probably worthless, im going to experiment with intellitype and see if I can get them to work. The file was courtesy this thread on HP's support forum:
    http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/print?board.id=OS&message.id=2556&page=1&format=page

    At least that solved it on my 7805, which should be nearly identical
     
  34. Big Mike

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    So if you install intellitype you get the intellitype volume slider which is kinda nice (shows you visually where the volume is or if its muted) and it works fine with the volume keys. Also if you pick Digital Media keyboard you can assign a program to the first custom button which will load when you hit the Play/Pause button. I haven't gotten anything to work for the DVD or music note buttons though. Also the play pause button only works once you've hit play/pause once, and set to open something it will ALWAYS open that I'm pretty sure, even if you have a media player open you want to control.

    Also as for the webcam mic, if someone can find a suitable XP driver from something else (P6831 maybe? I'll look into that) we should be able to make it work. currently its found as a "usb composite device" in the usb section. I can't seem to force winblows to use a different driver to install it, it's just a generic USB mic and there's an integrated driver for that I just have to figure out how to make it install that instead of the generic composite device driver.
     
  35. rancid

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    The webcam mic did not work on the 6831-fx under XP either, at least it didn't on mine.
     
  36. fire268

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    Btw, I know it's been awhile, but my eSATA is still a no go. :( oh well
     
  37. oogawooga

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    okay im struggling with the audio right now, i did not automatic update my laptop yet because im afraid of the hotfix, i am running on sp2

    my problem is i can get sound working after disabling the Micr0osoft UAA but when i restart nothing happens? is the audiostart.bat supposed to be in notepad format or the thing where it opens CMD prompt?

    and is this what its supposed to be? "devcon restart PCI\cc_0403"
     
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    Just my input:

    I hated Vista pre service pack 1 and before I knew how to change it to how I wanted it.

    In fact, I'm quite impressed with Vista 64-bit on my 7811. I changed the theme to "vista basic," disabled the search service and some others, and made some other minor speed tweaks, and got rid of UAC.

    Mine runs like a champ! Now if I could only play GTA4 and Fallout 3 on Ubuntu Linux
     
  40. Big Mike

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    open my computer or in any open windows explorer folder and go to tools -> file options -> view tab -> uncheck "hide extensions for known file types"

    go back to your audiostart folder and remove the .txt from your audiostart.bat file (its hidden but will appear once you do that) and then make a shortcut to that file in c:\documents and settings\(YOUR USER NAME)\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\
     
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    Hi !

    Did anyone succeed to get the sound recording working for the webcam (xp32) ?
     
  43. Big Mike

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    No luck on the webcam mic, but I can definitively say that eSATA does work under winXP if you are in AHCI mode. If you installed in IDE compatabililty mode you can still switch though, just download the "f6 floppy" driver from intel, and then use the "have disk" method to forcibly install the ahci drivers onto the IDE controllers in device manager, then reboot and switch to ahci mode. I have a 120gb eSATA drive attached right now that works fine (once I pushed the connector all the way in, way to go on that recessed connector gateway, shesh, the cable barely engages)
     
  44. shotgunner

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    Has anyone gotten the audio to work on their p-7811 with XP-64 bit? If yes, how?
     
  45. Eric618

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    Hey all, I *finally* got the audio AND the camera mic to work perfectly on XP x86 SP3. The mic works as it should, as does the audio, with totally balanced left/right volume. I rebooted twice and everything stays stable.

    First, I installed Microsoft UAA SP31994 found HERE. Be sure to use that one, as I think there's a few different versions floating around. Next, I installed ONE of these. Unfortunately, I forget which one, but it was SP34200, SP33442, SP32823, or SP31994. All of those can be found on the same site as the UAA, just search for them. Now, this part is important. Follow it exactly and it should work perfectly...

    Download and install the driver (again, download and try to install the ones I mention above). You will get errors while installing. That's ok.
    Perform the below steps to fix the issue.
    1. Go to your device manager
    2. Right click on "Audio device on High Definition Audio Bus" and click Update driver.
    3. Click No, not at this time.
    4. Select "Install from a list or specific location".
    5. Click Next. Then select "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install".
    6. Click Next and then select "Sound, video and game controller" from the list.
    7. Click Next and then click Have Disk.
    8. Click Browse and head to C:\SWSetup where the above drivers are located by default in separate folders. Try each one, where the .inf is located.

    Again, one of them works, I'll be darned if I remember which one though. I went through like 20 of them before I finally got the right one, and lost track of which one I was on.

    Let me know how it goes! :)
     
  46. Eric618

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    I did just notice a minor glitch, however. The Windows Volume Control has no effect on volume, but the Wave slider works as the volume controller (balance is also adjusted here). Again, minor but annoying. I'm working on a fix for this now...
     
  47. Big Mike

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    Did you try turning the WAV slider down to say 10% and then use the windows volume? On my HP I xp-ed I found the volume control only worked if the sub controls were turned almost to 0, but the WAV volume was also insanely high to start with...
     
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    I am going to try this on my XP x64 Sp2 right now! I'll post the results immediately! Thanks for the info!
     
  49. Eric618

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    I doubt it will work in x64. Let me know, though! :)
     
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    Yep. The windows volume is completely disabled, regardless of other settings. Everything needs to be adjusted through the Wave control. Annoying, but at least my audio works again. :D
     
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