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    I know this is annoying (RAID on 7811FX)

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by mistargill, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    I'm not sure if you guys did or did not figure out the raid option for our wonderful laptop 7811FX

    just a minute ago, I was playing around the bios and found the raid option where the hard drive mode is (something like AHC or sata ide,, not sure) but I have a third option for raid,
    I went ahead and disabled the quite boot.

    and guess what? I have an option to go on to RAID, the thing is strip size is maximum of 128. doesnt go up to 256.. is this bad?
     
  2. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    Oh the thing is... I dont know how to go back to non raid mode...
    Cant seem to access the default bios anymore...uh-oh
     
  3. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    hmm i never even bothered to look into my bios for raid cause i didnt have matched drives and TBH my 320 7200 rpm drive is sick fast i was actually very impressed and happy i bought one.
     
  4. mistargill

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    The THing is.. I dont know how to get back to regulae drive array... This was an accident caused by curiosity...
     
  5. Kamin_Majere

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    So pop 2 POS 80gig hard drives in there to see if it actually works, and if so you can go get a second 200gb drive (or upgrade them both to 320+gig drives) and enjoy your RAID.

    But i thought that even being able to set it up it actually didnt work? Maybe it does though, that would be nice for the 7811 owners
     
  6. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    Well I had two more identical hard drive (same as stock) lieing around.. so right now... not knowing how to get back to original 200gb / 200gb seperate configuration.. im stuck with raid right now... which I dont mind so much..(if the performance is good) but the thing that I cant revert bothers me.
     
  7. Johnksss

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    the drives dont need to be the same size or speed for that matter to run a raid. it is just mainly preferred is all. the raid will run as fast as it's slowest counter part.
     
  8. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yep i knew about the raid thing and not having paired drives would work but the effort for such if any real gains just made me not want to bother was all.
     
  9. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    Well... how do i undo it? do i have to reflash the stock bios?
     
  10. Johnksss

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    as for getting bact to normal.
    1: your going to have to hit ctrl+i to invoke the raid controller and delete the raid you created
    2: then boot to bios and click disable raid sata contoller
    3: change achi back to compatability mode
    4 reboot computer. and all should be back to the way it was.
     
  11. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    For crap sake! It was there all along? What kind of dunder headed, addlepated, bunch of wannabes do we have around here.

    mistargill is hereby nominated for induction into the Gateway Hall of Fame.
    (old Everex users are a crafty bunch)

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    yeah, i was wondering about all that myself....and thought the bios's were the same, but since i dont have a 7811, i was not about to say...it's right there...lol
     
  13. Jakamo5

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    What. The. F-Bombadillos!?

    Am I the only one freaking out while reading this thread? Someone says they have Raid on the 7811 and THEY WANT TO GET RID OF IT? And no one is asking questions as to how he/she got it, they're just helping him/her get rid of it?! Wow.

    So anyway, when I look in bios, I see ACHI, IDE, and NOTHING else. I have two matching Seagate momentus 200GB 7200 drives, one that came with the laptop, one that I bought.

    Furthermore, theres an entire 10+ page thread, among others, in which people tried numerous times to get the Raid option to show up where ACHI and IDE are, and have failed.

    I'm going to have to call B.S. on this, sorry. If someone else can confirm that they have the Raid option on the 7811, please let me know. To the OP, please post in detail what hard drives you have, if you've modified anything in the bios to get Raid to show up as an option, etc. Please also tell us when you bought your 7811 and what the bios version is.
     
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    do you have the sata controller option?
     
  15. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    OK mistagill, you are going to have to defend your nomination by taking pics of the bios screen. I see no other option.
     
  16. Johnksss

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    yes, but did he flash his bios to the 94.28 bios?
     
  17. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    LOL. I'm definitely sticking around for this one. *grabs popcorn*
     
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    or show the raid option enabled under windows...lol
     
  19. mistargill

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    ugh ok... lol hold on
     
  20. mistargill

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    ok.. here it is.. Bios picture would be complicated here is my window
     

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    well...thats answers that
    LOL!
     
  22. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    Am i still a lier?
     
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    did you see the raid option when you restarted your laptop and hit crtl+i?

    good thing we didn't reset it back yet...
     
  24. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    yes. The third option on Blue-Bios page under hard drive, iguess. was the raid option. I happen to disable quite boot at the same time. it goes over to press control i- after the first boot screen. went in there had the option for Raid0 and others like mirroring. chose raid o striping 128 <- this was the largest value I could choose....

    than installed windows and such and now you are looking at my screen. hohoho
     
  25. Syngensmyth

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    You also now hold the world's record for "lowest burst rate" on a RAID-0 array.

    BooHoo I don't have another drive.
     
  26. mistargill

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    yeah. these hard drives kinda suck lol
     
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    well, do almost the exact same thing to uninstall it if you like. just choose to delete the raid volume. that might be the only way for the option to show back up in the bios. keeps people from accidentally messing things up. (speculation of course)

    if you haven't found the right answer...ill probably do a raid setup later tonight. and will fill in the blanks.
     
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    that answer is in another thread...something about in the matrix controller you enable some cache setting there and that should boost it up to like 500mb
     
  29. Dook

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    Open the Intel Matrix Storage Console, once open rt click on your raid array and select enable volume write back cache. That'll take care of the burst problem.

    On another note, If it turns out the RAID option has been there the whole time, I'm gonna laff my anus off.
     
  30. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    I knew that. :p

    Dang, another reason to spend money. I smell 2x500 drives comin' up.

    For sale: 1 200GB 7200RPM notebook drive, hardly used.

    I could wait but once quiet boot is disabled, does the raid option show in bios on reboot? (I'm a tad cornfused)
     
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    volume write back cache? something tells me he already has it enabled as before, when it was apparently disabled on mine, it would only give me burst rates equivalent to that of a single drive.

    before:
    [​IMG]

    after:
    [​IMG]
     
  32. mistargill

    mistargill Notebook Consultant

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    It's not there... from the beggining I did stuff before the bios showed up
     
  33. tallan

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    Mistargill, I've tried duplicating what you've done on my 7811, but no luck. Could you detail, step-by-step, how you enabled RAID on your 7811FX? It would be much appreciated...
     
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    Well FFS why don't you explain what you did?
     
  36. mistargill

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    Ok... Im guessing its one of these method I used or both has to do with it.

    1. Stock hard drive has to be allocated as whole
    = what I mean is get Dos based partition editor and burn it on cd and boot from it, than you can get rid of that 10gb hidden partition. I had one for a while and cant remeber whats it called. I'll get back to you on that.

    2. I opened up and took out the stock hard drive. It had jumperst to limit to SATA not SATAII. I took the jumper as well.

    3. (not sure this matters) I took the stock and put it on second bay, than took the new one (for me I had one since my old laptop) to the first drive bay.

    Ok.. this is what I did. after than goto bios set it to raid and disable the quiet boot thingy and reboot. on the second boot screen "ctrl + I" will take you to raid...
     
  37. tallan

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    Please.

    (And Dook I love the new avatar - long may he reign - woof!)
     
  38. tallan

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    Sorry to be thick but I have 2 x 200GB Hitachi drives and there's not a "jumper" to be seen anywhere on them. Could you explain?

    What BIOS do you have?
     
  39. mistargill

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    Jumper is little plastic thingy on the connector of the hard drive. I doubt that you have jumper put on in your hard drives. and if you have 2 hard drives I dont see why not go ahead and see if you have raid option?

    I have 9c.08.00 bios. its stock
     
  40. tallan

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    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! NOW we're getting somewhere. Your BIOS may be stock now, but three weeks ago when I bought my 7811 it came with (and still has) BIOS 9C.05.00

    This is what we needed to know, and again thanks!

    Next question: guys, where do we get this new BIOS?
     
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    have someone who has it, do a winphlash bios backup. then you do the same with yours. that way you still have your original bios. then do a crisis recovery with the backed up bios and you will now have the same one.

    there is a little more to it, but that can be gone over for the serious people who really want to flash. not to mention if you can in fact flash a 7811fx. i dont have one so i cant really say.
     
  42. tallan

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    Thanks for this, but what I had in mind was more like "How can we find the official Gateway BIOS update to version 9C.08.00?" Or is it just a matter of time, waiting for Gateway to post them? This is my first Gateway in a decade so I'm not familiar with their policies and timetables on updates.
     
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    considering you both have the same laptops, why is his bios different from yours?

    i was waiting to hear if he flashed his already. and if so..where did he get his bios....
     
  44. Kamin_Majere

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    Theres no telling if Gateway will ever actually release the updated BIOS. Except for the bum one the released earlier this month (which is actually an OLD bios) they havent released one for a long long time. So if your waiting for it i wouldnt hold my breath

    though they could surprise everyone and release it tomorrow

    its pretty much the same reason some of the early 6831's got released with the .27 BIOS and later they released them with the .29 BIOS and never told anyone... now they release the .28 BIOS and confuse everyone into believing its something new. Bloody gits :mad:
     
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    does your bios look anything like this?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  46. Dook

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    Wait, WTeeEff? How are you getting 3.2ghz!!??
     
  47. Kamin_Majere

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    OMFG! Did you actually crack the BIOS and get it to run at 3.2? :eek:
     
  48. Dook

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    Holy hell on Christmas you better not be holdin out on us! :D
     
  49. Johnksss

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    lmao!!

    nah, im not holding out. im still working on it. someone mentioned that i didn't have a raid so i got lost and switched over...*LOL*

    3.2 is enabled, but it's not taking as of yet. i have to dig a bit deeper. the minute it happens or if it happens, i will be right here sharing like clock work.
     
  50. Dook

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    Ahh! Roger that! Thanks for the hard work!
     
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