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    Is OC a 8800m GTS worth it

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by rot112, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Is overclocking my GPU past 650-900-1400 worth it or will i see no more performance boost. Ive heard that some of the members have overclocked to like 650-950-1500. But that to me doesnt sound too safe. Do you guys think my OC set up is ok or should i go even further. I already had fried my old m1330s motheboard because i was OC my old 8400 lol. Ah well... i dont want that to happen to my Gateway

    ...MY SET UP IS IN MY SIG...
     
  2. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    600-850-1500 works for me, zero problems.
    just benchmark your favorite games and find the oc that suit you.
     
  3. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    Yes, overclocking is fine, as long as you have a cooler and do not go too high. I also don't suggest loading the clocks at start up. just load them up when you are ready to use them, (ie a game) and use nvidia system tools 6.03 for that.
    i am sure the card can probably go to 700-1000-1600.
     
  4. PopRoxMimo3

    PopRoxMimo3 Notebook Deity

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    say if you overclock ur system high as dude55, and lets say your system gets messed up, what necessarily gets messed up, like cpu, hard drive, gpu, etc. Would a person be able to run diagonstics and find out what you did to it, even if you clean installed vista
     
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    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    yes try for 9800m GTS speeds, should be feasible. i find the GPU core always has the lowest OCing yield so dont try going over 600
     
  6. AdamU

    AdamU Notebook Consultant

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    even dong a minor OC on my 9700m GTS throws my temps up to 95 degrees C. heh
     
  7. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, get a better CPU first. A $250 X7800 will boost your 3dmark06 score 30% to 8500-8900.

    THe GPU on your system is bogged by the CPU, not the other way around.
     
  8. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    Go ahead and oc as far as the gpu will take you. If your temps stay reasonable (below 85c at max) and you don't get any artifacts or lock ups. You have nothing to worry about. You are just getting free performance! :)

    edit: also don't worry about loading clocks at start up. Drivers will still go to 2D clocks when you are not doing anything graphics intensive. With ntune at least.
     
  9. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    LOL LOL. DUDE55 is a super enthusiast...hah ah ahahaha ha....

    Those clocks are super insane. PLS PM me when you fry your system. DUDE55
    how much of a performance boost do you see in crysis warhead. THAT is my favorite game ever and i would like to know how it runs on your OC set up.

    Uh 9800m GTS is too slow for me. I like playing my games slick...and Since my 6860 only goes up to 68C when OC i dont think a super clock without a cooler will be of much concern since it stays pretty cool anyways...the **** Cryo LX cooler keeps it at 54C lol so im good.

    I'ma superclock and see what i get...

    Remember i fried my old m1330 once i dont want to do it to my new FX lol...WISH ME LUCK GUYS
     
  10. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    I say we start a death watch; how soon before OP kills his FX? All for 500 3dmark06 points, which equals nothing in actual games.
     
  11. E-wrecked

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    the GTS is too slow of clocks? Uhm.. ok, try 698/988/1798 - those were my stable gaming clocks with the 9800m GTS.

    And if you wanna fry something, use *my* super-clock on the 9800m GTS, which...by the way, 3dMark06 still hasn't been touched by anyone else ;P Try runnin 735/1017/1984. I believe that was where I ended up :)

    EDIT: You can still push shader higher, but ya would lose gains..Oh, wait. You have a 8800m GTS, you can't touch any of these clocks anyhow :p
     
  12. WysockiSauce

    WysockiSauce Notebook Consultant

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    My shaders are fine and dandy at 1550. I've seen people bump shaders to 1600 and do ok. My opinion max a perfect 8800mgts can reach is 650/1000/1600.
     
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    I'd run 642/966/1600.. bet it performs well ;)
     
  14. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    And people have a misconception on frying. the connotations of frying something are off. frying refers to heat and damaging your components due to overheating. you do not fry something merely by running it at a higher clock. running it at too high of a clock can stress it out otherwise, but it wouldn't "fry" it. but as i said, as long as you are not running it at startup and only loading the overclocks before ur gonna play a game, you're fine. its mostly about what the card you have can handle in general as well as what your card specifically can handle.
     
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    E-wrecked BANNED

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    your NV driver or DX driver drops before you'd hurt anything. Unless, you are at the point where it performs, overheats, and you don't notice cause it doesn't kick the drivers. It *is* very difficult to burn out a GPU, but you also have to worry about the components surrounding it in the chassis. There's not much breathing room in there. :) Oh, and most of you wont keep a laptop for more than 2-3 years..so do you really care if you cut a year or two off the life of your GPU, from 7 years to 4 or 5? Doubt it.
     
  16. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    DUDE55 i used your superclock settings on Crysis CCC lvl4 i got 25 fps lol at 1440 900, it was running so well i GOT SCARED ****LESS.m I thought i was gonna screw up ma baby lol.

    But then it starting fragmenting in Warhead so i turned off my Computer and let it cool down for a bit, though i would recommend them to anyone who has those weird table like ACs where you can put your computer on it and keep it at 32C, trust me i ran crysis at like 28 fps on high stock on those things lol. But for those of us with normal coolers use Wysockis clocks they work fine at ccc lvl4 as well at native. just keep the GPU cool.

    There are some 6860FX systems that stay alot cooler than others so you may be one of the lucky ones.

    Ima set the Ntune rule for Wysackis clocks and use that for Warhead and Crysis for now.

    Thanks guys for the help now we can compete with stock GTX's...And ima play through crysis once more...EPIC GAME OR maybe im just a GRAPHICS WHORE lol.

    anyhow...if anyone has anymore questions about OC their Laptops GPUs aske em here
     
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    rot, umm.. is that 800x600 resolution with crysis? cause that makes a *world* of difference. And I suggest you download HWMonitor, from cpuid.com in order to make sure you're not overheating anything.. Otherwise, you won't know til a puff of blue smoke comes out of the rig.
     
  18. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    lol it was at 1440 by 900, its like a A central air conditioin but it set like a table from the wall. I put my fans of the cryo lx on it and put the AC at the coolest lvl and i was paying Crysis all high as if it was a desktop 8800 GTS, i was amazed, i wasnt even overclockig ( at least from what i remember), im going back to my cousing house 2 morro so ima do the AC thing again, ill post how it runs here. It was running my GPU full load at 32C.
     
  19. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Lol having your computer die because of overclocking is a new one. That can happen if you overvolt, but not if you overclock. Worst that can happen is a system crash due to instability.
     
  20. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Well then i guess im the first victim lol...My m1330 motherboard fried and i had to call DELL...ah well now i got a hella gaming rig for half the price of some **** 13inch laptop...i WIN...DELL LOSE
     
  21. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    yeah, make sure you don't fry this one as well, or you're gonna be quoting george bush's "shame on me" talk. :p
     
  22. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    i definitely wont burn this one. Ima go to ma cousins house now and put it on top of the cooler and use DUDE55 super clock setting. I might reach 28 on Crysis lol. So w8 till i come back and well see.
     
  23. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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    not new at all. Today's chipsets and cpus have built-in heat sensing and throttling mechanisms that make it more difficult to fry your cpu or gpu, but the net result of that is that those people who are overclocking aren't as cautious. Trust me, if you start out with high enough numbers when OCing, the cpu or gpu can generate heat faster than the safety mechanisms can respond.

    A few years ago, Tom's Hardware showed what would happen if you removed the heatsink from a cpu while running http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSGcnRanYMM Notice the smoke coming off the AMD. This was at stock speeds and voltages. Todays CPUs and GPUs use more power and generate more heat than cpus back then. Did you notice that the fan wasn't even spinning on that first Intel? And you didn't need a fan on the PIII, either. In fact there was a PIII that overclocked quite nicely from 350MHz up to 700MHz with no fan on the heatsink (That system was still in use at a friends house up until a year ago).
     
  24. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    fiziks can you play Crysis using the CCC lvl 4 config at 1440 900. Maybe with the 7811 cpu you can.
     
  25. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    fiziks is right, you can do damage if you are not careful. It happens a lot.

    I have seen a lot of video cards with ruined ram. Some of which I ruined myself in my more carefree days.
     
  26. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    sure, but with a 1.66 or 1.86 GHz CPu I don't think the GPU is the limiting factor.
     
  27. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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    I played at 1440x900 no problem. Most settings at high. I forget. It wasn't completely maxed out, but it was very nice looking. I tried 1900x1200, but it got choppy in spots. Just did the demo, though. I got some other games to get through before I buy the full version of Crysis and by then the price should have come down, maybe Crysis and Warhead in a combo pack for 19.99 like the FEAR combo pack.
     
  28. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    good ima try that.

    and i have my laptop on top of the AC thing the gpu is at 38C under load lol.
    Fiziks what is your OC setup for your 9800m if you can play it at CCC lvl4 just fine then **** lol.
     
  29. fiziks

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    I should have said that I'm not using CCC lvl4 (or 3.5 or 3). Like I said, I just went through the demo. I didn't put a lot of effort into tweaking the crap out of something I can rip through in under an hour. And I didn't OC for 1440x900. I did OC to 700/900/1600 to help out 1920x1200 though. Stock settings for 9800 GTS are 600/799/1500.