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    Just Curious... 8800M GTS VS 9800M GTS

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by Lykhan, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. Lykhan

    Lykhan Notebook Consultant

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    How much of a difference is there? I currently have a 6860FX, but I always wondered.

    Would it be worth upgrading the Processor to a T8300 as well, if I kept it for another 2 years?

    I'm currently using it at school on my 1680x1050 monitor. I can play CoD4 maxed out, with minimal stuttering or rather noticeable. It's kind of not a fluid game to begin with though...


    Uses (Basically a Desktop Replacement, while I'm at school).

    Gaming, Ripping/Encoding.

    But I mean, if it's minimal... then no need.


    Thanks!

    It just makes me wish at times I waited a few extra months and got a 7800 series, but college started before that. :mad:
     
  2. Kamin_Majere

    Kamin_Majere =][= Ordo Hereticus

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    All things being said the 9800 puts out about 4% better numbers than the 8800. Its basically just a smaller die 8800 so produces less heat and can be clocked higher.

    As to keeping the 6860 for another 2 years. Yeah it should still be a perfectly passable machine. It wont play Crysis 12 maxed out but it will still get the job done with most applications/games.

    And yeah i recommend a CPU upgrade, the base CPU is ok, but once you get into the t8300/t9300/x7800/x9000 range it is SO much smoother for everything
     
  3. t3rR0r

    t3rR0r Notebook Evangelist

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    I have been talking to many other users on the forum... and have said myself in a few posts... but the 6860FX is still a very powerful machine... Im gonna hold onto it for atleast another year-2 years and see what major portable technology advancements are made.... Till then your best bet is saddling up with a better CPU... I would highly recommend (along with many other people from this forum) that the T9300 is your best choice..... its pretty cheap now but you need to know where to look....
     
  4. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    The diffrence is almost non existant. Us p6860fx users have almost all upgraded the cpu and the t9300 make the laptop a beast. Im going to hold on to it till this summer. When i will be buying the NP9262.

    But it is a very powerful machine and max's out every game except crysis, Which it play at all high native res,(only do able with the t9300) at 30fps and up.

    Don't spend more money then you have too.

    Hope this helped.
     
  5. venkol

    venkol Notebook Consultant

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    My 6831 is a beast and I am considering doing the 9300 upgrade myself. With that, I hope to keep this playing games until Gateway releases a GTX380M laptop in 2011 ;)
     
  6. Lykhan

    Lykhan Notebook Consultant

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    Is newegg still the best viable option to look for these procs, or is there another reputable dealer?
     
  7. Kamin_Majere

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    Ebay. Unless you just have a thing for buying retail.

    I bought my X9000 for about 200 less than the cost of a new t9300 at the time (not sure if that applies anymore but 380.00 USD for a 3.0gHz CPU is a pretty good deal IMO)
     
  8. Diablo

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    didnt you buy your x9000 a few months ago? when i bought my T9300 last march, i bought it for ~300 with shipping.
     
  9. Big Mike

    Big Mike Notebook Deity

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    8800M GTS is a stripped down G92 with 64 shaders 256M interface 500 core/1250 shader/1600 memory, vs the 9800M GTS which is a G94 with 64 shaders, 256m interface, 600mhz core/1500 shader/1600 memory. The main difference is the core/shader clocks are higher on the 9800. The pipelines etc are the same, the only difference really is that an 8800 is a G92 with pipes disabled where as the 9800 is a full on G94 downclocked for laptop use. The main performance difference will all come down to the higher core and shader clocks, but the 8800 is a lower powered chip so you may have more overclocking headroom (I'd imagine you can get stock 9800M clocks easy, but an overclocked 9800m will probably go further). All things considered its probably a better value to just upgrade the cpu in your current notebook and keep it.
     
  10. Jakamo5

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    don't mean to nitpick but it looks like you're mixing up shader and memory. the difference is in the core/shader but your memory numbers are off too
     
  11. Big Mike

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    For which one? All the specs I've seen were 800 (DDR 1600) memory for both cards and 1250 shader on the 8800 and 1500 on the 9800?
     
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    ok, sorry I see what you did, I was confused because you were putting 1600 for memory so when I knew shaders were higher, I thought you were mixing up "shader" and "memory". I didn't realize you were taking DDR 1600 (I'm not sure what that means actually? isn't the mem clock just 800?) until I read it again. My fault for the confusion.
     
  14. Kamin_Majere

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    Yeah July or August(cant really remember, though the post about it would be floating around in the dead threads of yesteryear :p )
     
  15. Big Mike

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    The memory base clock is 800, but GDDR3 is double data rate ram, which would be 1600mhz at its doubled rate. It's just a difference in semantics, some people quote the base rate, some quote the doubled rate. Technically speaking its really NOT 1600 mhz, its 2 bits per clock cycle at 800 mhz, but I went with the inflated marketing hype #s. On newegg for example you can find 9600GTs (9800M GTS) with 900mhz memory or 1800 mhz memory, but really they're the same thing just some manufacturers quoted them out at DDR and some didn't.