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    List of Compatible 17" wuxga 1900x1200 Screens

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by kael41, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. kael41

    kael41 Notebook Enthusiast

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    This thread is for upgrading the screen on our 6831FX laptops. This will probably be my next upgrade when i do decide to spend more money. I know some of you have upgraded and installed better screens, so post up which models you have running!

    Title edited to reflect WSXGA
     
  2. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    How about updating the title and including WSXGA (1680x1050) screens too? I'm going to upgrade at some point as well, but not sure I want to go all the way to WUXGA (1900x1200).

    My concern is as newer games come out with more demanding graphic requirements, it will be tougher and tougher to run them at native resolutions (esp. 1900x1200) without turning detail way down. With a slightly lower resolution, my hope is I will be able to stretch the point at which newer games become unable to run at native resolution and higher detail settings.

    Just a thought, others might be interested in going to a middle of the road upgrade too, and maybe with enough input it might even get stickied.
     
  3. Peter Bazooka

    Peter Bazooka Notebook Evangelist

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    My input - I've been waiting for a thread like this since I first booted my gateway up. I don't even care if the screen is still 1440x900 i just want one that looks good. The viewing angles and the washed out look at the bottom of my screen is the only complaint I have against this computer. Hope somebody can lead me/us towards quality screen that I can reaplce myself.
     
  4. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    im happy with the screen and the res :)
     
  5. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    This 17" LG WUXGA has been confirmed to work on another forum:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=160213282663

    Its an LG manufactured 1900x1200 WUXGA LCD screen for a DELL Inspiron 1720 17" WUXGA LCD.

    "The screen is in, and it looks beautiful. It's far and away better looking than the stock panel. The new panel is made by LG."

    "Once again, Spinitch's guide was most helpful, although there were a few snags in the process. The panel came with an inverter mounted on a bracket. I had to carefully pry the bracket off to remove the inverter and fit the panel into the lid. There were also two brackets on top (welded) that fortunatly lined up with two holes on the locking bolts."

    "All in all, figure an hour for this upgrade, and be prepared to DIY if you go with something other than a Gateway replacement."
     
  6. kael41

    kael41 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm happy by default as well, however, i've got a Dell 2007WFP for my forensic rig and this thing is awesome in clarity and detail. It's obvious when i put my laptop up against it to see the difference. The colors are brighter and more distinct. At times my lappie's colors and line differentiation are indistinct. I'd like it clearer with more definition.
     
  7. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    wont the laptop look stupid with a different top....or do you take it apart and put a new one in, i dont know how you would even replace a screen..
     
  8. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    For WSXGA, it looks like there are several LG and Samsung 17" LCD pulls on eBay with 0 dead pixel guarantee for $179. I'm tempted to buy a Samsung panel and wing it and see if it fits properly.
     
  9. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    You pull the panel itself from the shell and replace the panel inside the Gateway. Exact same appearance as before.
     
  10. MINIz guy

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    I'm pretty happy with mine as a first glare screen. I still prefere matte screens, though. Would love to get a 1680x1050 matte screen one day.
     
  11. narsnail

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    akkk ok thanks
     
  12. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    Should be the same as my 1705, very good screen, slightly less light bleed than this (stock Samsung) screen.

    You do have the option to set panel "not to scale" for lower resolution screens. At lest you have a native sharp screen but with black borders around it to keep your gaming FPS up.

    I like the stock screen for games and SD-DVD,s which tend to look a bit sharper as they don't scale up as much. Of course, if ya thinking of $blue ray$, go for the WUXGA.
     
  13. Snowsurfer

    Snowsurfer Rocky Mtn High

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    I'm hoping for an XPS 1710 Screen upgrade =D
     
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    antic Notebook Consultant

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    I'm looking right now for a WUXGA screen for my Clevo. Anyone know which is the best *matte* model to get? I assume LG is still best, yes? I've seen an LG with major sparkly though, which was a concern... so knowing the exact model # of a good one would really help.
     
  16. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    One that was fairly highly regarded was the panel from the Asus G2S, the B170UW02 V0 (AUO TFT). Highlights are the 8ms response time, 72% color saturation, 2 CCFL backlight. Many of the LG's and Samsungs are 25ms, I believe, and some are single backlight.

    Specs:
    http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=notebook&func=info&product_id=137&items_id=2

    Wide Aspect Ratio
    Size: 17"
    Model: B170UW02 V0
    Resolution (pixel): WUXGA 1920 x 1200
    Aspect Ratio: 16:10
    Active Area (mm): 367.2 x 229.5
    Pixel Pitch (mm): 0.191 (per one triad) x 0.191
    Mode: TN
    Number of Colors: 262K
    Color Saturation (NTSC %): 72
    View Angle (H/V): 140 / 120
    Brightness (cd/m²) (5 points average): 400
    Contrast Ratio: 600 : 1
    Response Time (ms) (at 25°C): 8
    Power Consumption (W)(typ): 14.5
    Interface: 2ch LVDS
    Supply Voltage (V): 3.3
    Backlight: 2 CCFL
    Outline Dimensions (mm)(typ): 382.2 x 247.5 x 6.5
    Weight (g)(typ): 680
    Production: Q2, 2007
     
  17. antic

    antic Notebook Consultant

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    crpngdth2001, thank you muchly! I also just spotted the LG LP171WP7 which seems comparable:
    http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/prd/prd301_j_e.jsp

    Aspect Ratio: 16:10
    Size: 17"
    Model: LP171WP7
    Active Area (mm): 367.2 x 229.5
    Pixel Pitch (mm): 0.255(100)
    Number of Colors: 262,144(6bit)
    Color Saturation (%): 72
    Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R]: 120/140
    Luminance [cd/㎡]: 450
    Contrast Ratio: 800:1
    Response Time (ms): 8

    Differences highlighted. No mention of backlight type.

    Great, I'll ask for either the AUO or this LG. Seems like all LG's are 16-25ms unless you go for the very top end.

    Thanks!
     
  18. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    That looks good. I wonder about the backlight though. I've seen several WUXGA panels with a single backlight and they seem unusually dim to me. I seem to recall a person who upgraded his P6831FX to a WUXGA single backlight and commented on possibly hacking it to add another backlight. I believe it was either an LG or Samsung Panel.

    The brightness and contrast are both slightly better on that LG panel, though. I'd be willing to bet its a more common (thus likely less expensive) panel too.
     
  19. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    i know in the past when people had been trying to put another manufactures panel in a xps etc and it had dual lamps it wasnt possible. the extra connections needed to power it or some other things stood in the way from it working . but i would love to see something like that in gateway model cause ive been tempted to pull the trigger a few times on the 6831 but didnt like the screen at all in the display models i had seen.
     
  20. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    BTW, that looks like a WXGA (1440x900) Panel, not WUXGA (1920x1200).

    LP171WP7

    Features

    17.1" TFT LCD Panel for Notebook PC

    Model Name LP171WP7
    Active Area [mm] 367.2 x 229.5
    Outline Dimension [mm] 382.2 x 247.5
    Thickness [mm] 6.7
    Resolution 1440 x RGB x 900

    Here's their WUXGA Panel, with lower specs than the AUO:

    LP171WU1
    Features

    17.1" TFT LCD Panel for Notebook PC

    Model Name LP171WU1
    Active Area [mm] 367.2 X 229.5
    Outline Dimension [mm] 382.2 x 244.5
    Thickness [mm] 6.3
    Resolution 1920 x RGB X 1200
    Aspect Ratio 16:10
    Pixel Pitch [mm] 0.191(133)
    Number of Colors 262,144(6 bit)
    Luminance [cd/㎡] 260
    Color Saturation (%) 50
    Weight [g] 690
    Contrast Ratio 600:1
    Interface LVDS 2port
    Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R] 120/140
    Color Temperature [K] -
    Response Time [ms] 16
    MP Schedule Now
     
  21. lipuid

    lipuid Notebook Enthusiast

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    i bought a 24" external LCD with an HDMI port for 350 *shrugs*
     
  22. crpngdth2001

    crpngdth2001 Notebook Consultant

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    and your point would be what? :confused:
     
  23. antic

    antic Notebook Consultant

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    omg you're right, didn't see that. Luckily didn't email them the request yet. :)

    I'll request the B170UW02 V0 or LP171WU1 if they can't get the AUO.. and see what happens. :)

    Thanks for the help!
     
  24. id10t error dfw

    id10t error dfw Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm, there is a local store that sells them.. I may have to do that before too long. :D
     
  25. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    anybody knows the gateway stock LCD's spec?
     
  26. lipuid

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    my point is even after u spend the time finding a nicer looking screen, its still a 17".

    on my laptop (the t-1620) it came with a 14.1" so going to a 24" was a huge difference.

    just my oppinion get an external LCD and u could even take it with you out if town or whatever becaust there so lightweight now.
     
  27. Divine_Madcat

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    Oh yeah - that is exactly the reason i got a laptop - i love still having to carry around desktop components...... oh wait... no i don't.... :rolleyes:

    If you really are attached to a screen that large, get one of those stupid 20" "laptops" and be done with it.
     
  28. Richteralan

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    wait....you mean a 24" LCD is so lightweight?
     
  29. crpngdth2001

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    LTN170X2

    size: 17.0
    resolution: WXGA+
    number of pixels: 1,440 X 900
    active area (mm²): 367.2 x 229.5
    pixel pitch (mm): 0.255
    number of colors: 262K
    contrast ratio (typ.): 500:1
    brightness (cd/m²): 200
    responsetime (ms at 25°C): 16
    viewing angle (U/D/L/R): 20/45/45/45
    interface: LVDS(2ch)
    outline dimension (mm): 382.2 x 244.5 x 7.0
    weight (g): 710
    production: Now
     
  30. lewdvig

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    Any LED backlit screens out there? I think I'll wait for one of those.

    I am always sitting square to the screen so I can live with it, but showing my kids videos on this screen when they are standing next to me (a foot away) is a problem. The viewable angle is so bad.
     
  31. Citizen86

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    Sorry to bump this older thread, but seems like it could still be relevant... anybody have some screen models that they KNOW will be compatible with these Gateway P Series?? I want a WUXGA with decent color reproduction for graphics work.
     
  32. F34R

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    I am at least going to be upgrading the LCD to WSXGA. I think I'll probably go with a popular LG panel, not sure what i'll do at this point. I will probably do something within the next month though.
     
  33. Divine_Madcat

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    I hate to rebump an old thread, but I am really interested in some of the newer screens that have come out, like the LP171WU5 (LED backlight).

    Given that it is LED though, does anyone have any idea on if this will work with our systems (6831FX)?
    Now, I see that the LED model is: 382.2 × 247.5 × 7.0
    Where as the old original model is: 382.2 × 244.5 × 7.0

    LED aside, is there really enough room for the extra 3mm?
     
  34. Divine_Madcat

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    Just a bump again.. any ideas?
     
  35. Citizen86

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    I really doubt that an LED screen will work in that laptop.