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    NV59 series wireless card upgrade.

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by andy A, May 12, 2013.

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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    Specifically the Gateway NV5927u but all the NV59 series should be the same. I recently purchased an Intel 6200-N wireless card to replace the Atheros card that originally came with the machine as I ran across a post where one user had done this with the NV5927u for the purpose of WiDi. Which I want to try and get up and running myself. I have been unable to contact said individual as to which 6200 he used. Apparently the 6200 I purchased is not compatible (probably a whitelisted card) with the NV59 or gateway machines in particular. I can install the drivers and it is seen in device manager but with a yellow exclamation mark, tried it in another newer model gateway with the same results. The newer model gateway had a Intel 6205 - N card in it that works great but the 6200 did not.

    So after that long run on paragraph if any one has installed an Intel 6200 wireless card in a NV59 series or has a factory installed one could someone look at the P/N and markings for me as I am having a hard time finding the right one and really don't want to keep trying different ones to find one that works.

    Thanks for your time and Cheers
    Andy
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Didn't the one you bought said Lenovo in any place on an auction website (or wherever you bought it)?

    Lenovo cards don't work on non-Lenovo laptops (unless in Linux) but all other should work fine. That's why it's usually clearly said that it is Lenovo card (as an exception) but others aren't marked at all.

    So you shouldn't have run into this issue in the first place as it was unlikely.
    There's a thread in networking with user-made photographs of those cards where you can see markings- that might help you.
     
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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the tips downloads, but I also tried it in my Lenovo Thinkpad X120e and I got the dreaded "not compatible network card, please replace card, yada, yada, yada.

    The 6200 I have now is
    model # 622ANHMW
    Part Number # 60Y3191

    my other thought is it is a bad card.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    You'd have to check if Lenovo Thinkpad X120e had an option of Intel 6200. It may not be white-listed in it either.

    EDIT: 60Y3191 is a Lenovo part number so it looks like my initial guess might be right.
     
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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    as you can see reading comprehension is not my friend or I would have caught that. ;) My next bet would be the 6205 even though I don't need the 5ghz range as my router does not support it. I do know that the 6205 that was in the other gateway machine worked in the NV5927u and I have all the numbers off it, but oddly it does not have a part number on it. Thanks download.
     
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    There's very little difference between 6200 and 6205 and both of the support 5GHz range. 6205 is sort of a 6200 rev 2 so be careful because Lenovo surely also used it.
     
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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    Downloads, not doubting you by any means as you know more about what I'm asking than I do, but I could swear I remember the 6200 as a single band card only working in the 2.4 range for AGN as to where the 6205 was dual band, 2.4 and 5ghz. I need to look that one up, I seem to have a vague recollection of hearing somewhere in the past that google is my friend. :D

    At least I have a known 6205 that works in it and can get the numbers off it, but as I mentioned earlier it does not have a specific part number anywhere on it. IE: something that's says "PN (such and such)", but every other type of marking appears to be there.

    Price difference between the 2 are negligible and either would accomplish the same task.

    I have got to look more through that thread your posted also.

    Again thanks much
    Andy
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No problem.

    As for 6200- it's definitely 2.4GHz and 5GHz capable- see here.
    It's also a very good card- just like 6205 and 6300. Just avoid 6230 and 6235- those have Bluetooth module on and aren't very good (bandwidth fluctuations)
     
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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    Cool, thanks and interesting. Learn something new everyday. Going to dig deeper and if I find a known good 6205 vs a 6200 I'll jump on it.

    Definitely don't need the built in Bluetooth of the 6230 or 6235 as I have an internal module/cable on the way. With a number of the gateways, many were Bluetooth compatible, ie: header on the motherboard for cable and mounting pad for module but they just did not install them. So it is a fairly easy install after some teardown. Guess where I'm leading with this is the only way on a number of the gateway's for the keyboard Bluetooth on off functions of Fn + F3 to work, one had to use the setup up of internal module/cable hooked to the motherboard header. It was also the only way to get the Bluetooth LED to light telling one whether it was on or off.
     
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    Could you elaborate more on this limited bandwidth of the 6230 and 6235 bandwidth fluctuation?
     
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    There is an issue with 6230 and 6235 (probably related to Bluetooth module one them since it doesn't happen to 6200) where the card slows down to a crawl in terms of Wi-Fi bandwidth even if BT is not used nor enabled.

    It happens with different notebooks and different manufacturers (Dell and Samsung come to mind). Intel claims that they can't get the problem to occur in their labs and if it exists it's a result of improper design of the laptop (probably antennas routed in the chassis near those elements that produce a lot of "noise").

    What makes their explanation rather poor is that the same notebooks with different modules work fine and that oddly enough some Intel drivers seem to fix the issue while other subsequent driver make it re-appear, so apparently it's not an intentional fix on Intel's part.

    I don't recommend those cards because for some people everything is fine but for others it's terrible so it's more than a bit of a gamble.
     
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    andy A Notebook Consultant

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    Found a 6205 with the exact markings that I know works in the machine, should be here in a few days. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    Got the new card, installed and up and running definitely better than the Atheros card (AR5B93) it replaced. Now waiting for a different Bluetooth cable as the one I ordered was the wrong one.

    Did some digging and the only differences I can find between the 6200 & 6205 is the 6200 is AGN and the 6205 is BGN elsewise they appear identical, according to the comparison charts on Lenovo.

    PS if anyone needs a 6200 I have one that appears to work in certain Lenovo machines
    Model # 622ANHMW
    Part # 60Y3191
     
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    I see I bought a used NV79 with a 6325 that the previous owner upgraded to.