New BIOS released, 7811FX support NOT confirmed

@Johnksss

I have worked 95% with desktops, and only a small smattering of laptops. Certainly no subzero on the laptops (although I have seen people do that!! pretty cool!) and only GPU overclocking on the laptops.

Regarding the warranty....NO NO NO my friend that is NOT what you buy it for. A warranty is NOT so you can experiment, make a conscious decision to do risky things with your laptop, and more or less purposely break it all in the name of a "warranty". A warranty is meant to cover manufacturer problems, not stuff that you personally break with no manufacturer liability after you get the product. Just guessing here but I would bet more than half of the things that you have done already voided your warranty. If so, that is called STEALING and not warrantying.

I understand why you personally wanted to flash the BIOS. If it will allow you to OC your CPU more Im all for it! But I saw at least 1 experienced poster that people look to for advice say that he flashed to the new BIOS "just because" and had no idea what it actually did.

I think it is important for people to understand this is not something that you do like swapping out a video driver.

 

I apologize that some of you have bricked the laptop by trying to flash the bios on it, I did not know that the bios did not or is not compatible to our laptops. I simply saw the link under the driver page of our laptop. I hope you guys can forgive me

 

it said in the readme it was compatable, i would freak on gateway for it.

 

Totally. I got some pre-pre alpha drivers that allow you to overclock the shaders into the 3600mhz range.

Hola, Mr. Roy. Long time no talkie! And I am playin nice. Me and all the other kids in the sandbox are building imaginary 60 story sand castles. It's really fun.

We should all rise up in protest and burn our bras! Gateway needs to know, "We ain't gonna take it no more!"

 

It's not your fault.

Besides, as I wrote before, you have to *really* know what you're doing to actually mess this up. That is, use nonstandard flashing techniques to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't e-wrecked the only one who actually risked it?

 

It should be though, well not exactly as easy but pretty freaking close. Unfortunately Gateway gave us the most retarded BIOS ever created. No control over ANYTHING, no way to recover it and a bloody soldered on chip so we can even buy spares in case of a tanked flash.

BIOS is about as legacy as coding gets (one of the few things i like about Macs is they don't use them) And to add the insult to injury we have a horrifically crippled BIOS that is next to worthless.

I'm not a master of BIOS trickery, but I've never had a bad flash brick my rigs. There has always been a recovery option, or worse case i had to buy a new chip and replace it. But I never lost a computer to them.

That's why so many people were hoping this was a good update and are willing to try it (though the editing of BIOS i will leave to those more intelligent than i) because we are so bloody crippled by the system we cant do anything. Its usually not "just because" but in the hope that maybe...just maybe Gateway did us a solid and gave something to us. Unfortunately its just an old version of the BIOS that most people already had, which sucks to no end.
I would love to clock over 3gHz or be able to control my fans or voltages through the BIOS...but again we cant do anything but enable RAID and clock to 3gHz on extreme CPU's We actually don't even have other options for ANYTHING else...its sad really.

 

No one is pointing at you mistargill. I would have linked to it too. We are interested in a new one. We are just picky and want a good/new one. It always takes a brave new soul to find out if it's good or not.

 

guess you had better go talk to someone on how a warranty really works. and what is deemed warrant able. i see your new here so you apparently haven't made all the call necessary to understand what is breaking a warranty or stealing for that matter. considering the drivers your using are stolen. along with part of the software you now use as well. (speculation of course). and "this is a manufactures problem" it was flashed the correct way like any other bios. so not sure what your talking about. and if that's the case...you taking the cover off any part of your laptop is voiding the warranty. that goes for memory, hard drives and cpu's. per gateway rep...if you change a part, make sure you have the factory parts back in place before sending in for repair.

your funny though... fry your gpu and i bet you'll be first in line talking about warranty. instead of saying...that's ok...ill buy a new one. don't think so friend. (over clocking)

and with 5 percent knowledge on laptops. nothing personal.

but on another note...if i had to pay to get it fixed. i would. been in this business a bit longer than you might think..... you miss interpreted why i posted about the bios to begin with. it was to let others know what you can encounter. no complaints on my part. i knew what i was getting into. and the owner of 6 current laptops, i wont miss one for a few weeks. nor is the money a problem as well.

but to those with one main machine...flash, over clock or mod at one's own risk... is always rule number one. that is a given.

 

I believe I am the only one that has been foolish enough, without regard for consequence. But that's been my motto for quite some time. *shrugs* Fortunately the BIOS Flashers are smart enough to save me from a larger headache. But, that's what I expected anyhow. This isn't directed towards you DestruyaX, but.. When did this forum become a place to belittle people, and tell them what they should and shouldn't do with their own money, ethics, and time? I understand if someone were looking for advice, but there's no need to chime in just because you don't agree with someone elses decisions. Kinda like I'm doing now, but different. My mother always told me, 2 wrongs make a right..uh, or something like that.

 

yep, pretty much so e-wrecked. i couldn't have said it better myself!

if it all works...it's high fives and everything is rosy, but when it doesn't...it's..why you do this and that your dumb or stupid and all the other negative comments. but yet...they are right back with the help help i need this and that. and the funny thing is...you wouldn't be able to offer help if you haven't done, experienced, tried, failed or succeeded at most of the things we all discuss around here....

 

My drivers are stolen? Really.......

Do tell...what drivers am I using since you can say this with such certainty?

If you did indeed void your warranty by replacing your CPU, or some other mod (I have no idea if you did or didnt void it) then yes...you are stealing. No 2 ways about it. It has nothing to do with the BIOS flash and if you did it properly or followed Gateway protocol or anything like that. Warranties are all or none. Once you void the warranty its gone. If you have mislead or lied to Gateway (or even withheld information that you knew would void your warranty) to get them to warranty your laptop after your bad BIOS flash that is indeed stealing. You can twist it an justify if no matter how you like but it still is.

5% knowledge on laptops? I never said that. I said I work/overclock on desktops 95% and laptops 5%. The 2 are not the same statements.

Ive killed PLENTY of hardware in my day man. IF (and that's a big IF) I decided to perpetrate a fraud and tell a company mistruths about how a piece of hardware died it would indeed be stealing and I would not debate that fact.

Noone is belittling anyone here. Just stating facts.

Its definitely great that there are people like many of the regulars around here who "fiddle" with their laptops and can provide a database of information for people to search as well as provide feedback. Noone is saying otherwise. I also think its ridiculous to say that you do it for the betterment of the community though. You do it for yourself, your benefit, and your own enjoyment.

Listen anyone can do whatever they want with whatever property they own...no doubt. But bottom line flashing BIOS is nowhere near (not even remotely close!) to swapping out video drivers. The inherent risk is not comparable. A bad driver is easy to recover from. A bad BIOS flash leaves you with a dead pile of metal and plastic to use as a paperweight.

If you decide to flash your BIOS no matter what the type of computer you should always follow those basic rules.

1. Know exactly what is contained within the BIOS flash.
2. Make sure you need it. Dont just flash because a new BIOS is out
3. Dont use new tools such as usb boot drives/imgburn/whatever during BIOS flashing. Use only approved flash tools or techniques that you are comfortable with using.

 

Well said, Dawg.

 

alright, your sounding ridiculous on a few of these things. so im going to leave it at that. that's why i made the comment about stolen drivers.

sorry, but i told them what i did. so your wrong there as well.

5 percent still stands on laptops. no matter how you sum it up.

and overclocking IS voiding your warranty, but i guess that slip past you as well.

but hey, we are all in titled to our own opinion. but enjoy yourself around the forums

 

Speaking of rediculous:

I am LMAO

First I think we have a new member

Then I have to figure out what it all means
Then I get it and LMAO

That Avy makes me laugh just by existing ... It is so ... well ... Dook

 

I've been trying to figure it out..maybe I'm just a bit slow.


Edit: LOL! If this is referring to what I think it is, it's ****ing hilarious! Once I got it..

 

well friends, guess what......

the gateway 6860fx is back from the dead!! woohoo! seems there is a crysis bios recovery option after all!!

****! now i have to put everything back...*LOL*

 

Congrats john. Im sure thats a releif!

 

Thats good to hear. What did you have to do to finally get the BIOS recovery to work on the 6860?

 

thanks. and it sure is. now i don't have to wait for my laptop to come home...lol

i knew it was there, but it was eluding me. so gateway climbed back up in my book.

now back to 3.2 ghz on the over clock...lol

edit:
1: pull battery out
2: hold fn key down
3: then hold esc key down
4: then push power button


it will start reading your usb floppy drive if you made your recovery disk right.
let it shut off on it's own. mine took about 4 minutes total time.

you can test this with the 7811. just dont put any cd's or floppys in drive. your screen will go blank and just sit there. if it does this...then it works. just turn the power off and boot normally.

 

Oh ok. I need to dump a copy of my BIOS eventually then to get a good back up copy (just in case) I'm glad you found out we have a recovery option. I was hoping our BIOS weren't that retarded...but i was losing hope.

I wish you the best at getting the overclock going. If you do think you could unlock 3.4 and above? I've got my x9000 undervolted to 1.00v and my max temps are 48/49 degrees and i would LOVE to see how far i can push it since i have pretty good temps.

 

yeah, i was thinking the same thing kamin. that they would not be that retarded. and low and behold..THEY AREN'T!
i guess my baby heard "stealing & cheating" so she jumped right back into shape. *LMAO*

well the 3.2 was just a starting ground to see if it will take, but from my understanding...these chips can run 3.4 comfortably. we shall see. working on it as we speak.

 

You sir are a god amongst men. And i wish you all the luck i am able to give in the endeavor. My knowledge of BIOS is so infantile that half scared to just open them up. I'm trying to learn but this is the dangerous codes to screw with (especially with out a good emergency recovery)

And yeah, we can't have our lappies thinking that they are evil thieves

 

nah..that was to what that dawgdoc dude was talking about.

 

Good news. Congrat man same thing should work for 6831fx as they are identical
Question is:
When it started to read USB you saw something on screen or it was blank?
as normally u have to press "yes" button etc on-screen u done it blindly?
u prepared some kind a special way the flash drive so it want ask?

anyone checked this works?

 

this method is called blind flashing.
and you would need to make an autoexec.bat file with the commands in it.
your screen will be blank with nothing on the screen. it will read the disk and execute the commands in the autoexec.bat file. then it will shut the laptop down and reboot it with everything working correctly.

and yes, it will work on the 6831. im 99.9 percent sure, since they are the same except for a few parts change. (hd cpu mem)

 

Jonksss, i found this concerning an Acer blind flash..the steps look familiar?

http://www.wimsbios.com/phpBB2/topic10069.html

..my 7900GS has been flashed so many times that it's been baned from the neighborhood

 

yeah, seen all the acer ones. and tried them as well, but the problem is...you dont push them at the same time. you hold the fn first, then add the esc so that your holding them both, then you push the power button. this made a very big difference in starting the bios recovery.

edit: and now after the first time doing this. it now works either way. very wired, but im not complaining. just glad to know that there is an option.

 

Congrats john! Now that means I can be a test dummy again and keep trying to flash mine?

 

yep, join the test dummy network like me. lol. i have done more testing/reconfiguring/changing/flashing/reflashing/video testing/laptop break down and put back together again/internet searches and re searches/price checks/ game tests and the list just goes on...

 

New thread just began recently about TZS0..I'd like to find more about it. If anyone has input, please assist.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=298342

 

just flashed the 8800m bios clocks to match what they should be and the system crashes. so i dont know narsnail....let me see your vbios when you get a chance. ill go ahead and chance it.

 

whadyya mean see my Vbios? want me to export my BIOS and let you have it then?

 

thought you had the 8800m gtx bios

edit: on a nother note...i no longer have to pull power cord or battery to boot bios recovery mode.

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...acturer=&model=8800M+GTX&interface=&memSize=0


there I am assuming you knwo what your doing? you have the Phoenix BIOS editor correct?

 

So your gateway has an adaptive AI now!

OMG i think i've found the birth of skynet! and your named John...kill it now!

 

sure, i have the 6k bios editor. *lol* along with the nibotr vbios editor

 

The only thing John has terminated recently is his laptop.

 

do you know where the VBIOS is located though? there is a menu down the side, and i think its under a folder half way down. i think the BIOS itself is named OPROM2.ROM when you click on the .ROM files a heading comes up saying what it is. it should say NVIDIA VGA for the VBIOS

 

It's V'Ger.

 

hahahaha, ya'll are funny!

looks like a big no on the 8800m gtx. screen is still black with lights on. heard some beeps i have never heard before and im still looking at a blank screen. so mxm will not work.

on another note. just reflashed it back to the original bios. 94.29 and not 94.28