New Gateway 78** FX Series Coming Soon - Also found PLL For FX Series

Ok guys.. so I was browsing the Wistron(Gateway Taiwan) FTP, went thru a couple of links searching for information on a newer BIOS, or possibly some R&D for anything that seems interesting. Well, looks like they're currently testing a new system. As a matter of fact, there's a new BIOS 9c.17.00 available, but I haven't been able to find the link for download. They disabled the other account I had access to - and that was where they stored ALL gateway BIOSes. Nevertheless, here's 2 Excel docs that I was able to snag - You'll notice it still uses a P8400, only a 512MB GPU, and a 200GB HDD - Also looks like they've implemented BlueTooth -Not sure what else they've changed..it doesnt have pics or anything. But, just wanted to put it out there and let y'all speculate. By the way, these are slated for release thru Best Buy. Also, the files were uploaded TODAY so this is something brand new. Anyhow.. I'll try and check back in a couple days to see if there's any new info.

Oh..it also includes SKU #s so someone at Gway may be able to get some info before us.. *pokes BigHops*


Here's the Data Reports w/specs from last week - uploaded today to FTP - One Pass & One FAIL
http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/gatewayreports.zip


Also: I'm uploading a .pdf that is used by the techs for the Clock Gen(PLL) for the Gateway. I'm not going to put forth the effort, but someone can forward this to the SetFSB creator and get them to implement it and then Overclock the FX line. The PLL is in the upper right corner of every page, and this has ALL the info needed. Enjoy!

PLL .pdf Info Sheet
http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/9LPRS365-SPEC.pdf

Im also downloading a HUGE file, not sure what it is.. but if it's useful I'll upload it as well.

EDIT: gotta .zip the first two files and re-upload..bear with me. Ok, finally got the links functioning..

 

will the new bios eliminate the tzs0 spiking?

 

dude.. I don't know. I can't download it. Im sure if they're on 9c.17 then it resolves something.

 

lol... thats true... E-wrecked, I will be the first to experiment if you get it...

 

I emailed Maggie from Wistron, asking if I can get a link for download. I'll post if I do.. otherwise, someone needs to get this PLL and have it implemented into SetFSB and also find out what new system this is.

 

Hi,
I'm not sure these are "New" systems. They may just be running an image check on available stock (order options) with the new bios version. The 200 gig has a lower SKU and the 004G is there twice. You are probably correct though, just my 2 cents.................

I would love to see that new bios. strange they jumped from 9c.12.00 to 9c.17.00 so what happened to 9c.13.00 through 9c.16.00?

 

Looking through the files, they don't really look like they're testing a new model...looks more like a P-7811FX! The specs are identical. Why would they make a new model that is identical to a 7811 (which has been discontinued?)?

Regarding the bluetooth, I don't think the test system had it. The test results sheet says "if test unit has bluetooth", but then on the PROMO CODE test, where there are desktop screen shots, there is NO bluetooth icon in the system tray. I think there is no bluetooth in that system.

What else is there that leads one to think this is some new system? If it is, it better be pretty inexpensive.

 

Hey E-wrecked, I took a look and those aren't actual SKU's, there is an alphabetical character in there, Best Buy SKU's are strictly numeric. 914I201 004G, I wouldn't imagine Best Buy would generate a SKU until a product is in the production phase, great find though +rep.

 

Eh.. just thought it may be of use. Seeing as it's a new BIOS - also it was undergoing testing on the 11th, and 12th..and they just uploaded results on the 22nd and 23rd.. thought that maybe its another 78* series, I saw similar documents shortly before the 7805u was made public. I figured this time, I'd say something about it. Oh, and that PLL .pdf is likely more useful anyhow.

Maybe the resurection of the 7811?

 

Any luck with finding that BIOS E-wrecked?

 

If they're testing something really new - I believe it's going to be 15-incher with exact 7811 specs. So it can be another hemorroid in respectful Alienware's a$$.

 

Nopers.. its under a different user login - I don't have access. I hate emailing them Firday evenings.. but hopefully they'll get back to me monday *crosses fingers* NEver had luck with late night Friday emails. I'll email monday if someone reminds me. You ever get that system restored?

 

Nope I'm sending it to Gateway next week. Got a 7811 here though that locks up after a couple of minutes of gaming / CPU stressing and wondering if the new BIOS might fix it.

 

Odd.. there's another guy on here who PMd me with the same issues.. he is using an external monitor though, so I assume that has something to do with it. Which version you running?

 

Thanks for the PLL info E; I have forwarded it to the SetFSB creator, but it probably wouldn't hurt if more than one person did.. let them know there is real interest for it.

Though, just to check - the 6831/6860 is supposed to use this PLL, correct? Or did i mis understand and that it is for the 78XX line?

 

Hmm, interesting. Well, if it is the same stuff I would guess a 15.4in.
Could be interesting-- and soon enough there will be a different model for half of China!
(PS: Yall seem to talk like there has never been a 15.4 incher. I can swear I have seen one. Both at my local best buy, and walking down the calls at my university. --- last year---)

 

Just ran into this post - http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4401113&postcount=1730

So, 9c.17.00 is the bios for 1440-900 7805u's?

 

there used to be a 15.4 FX but it came with the radeon 2600... bleh! if it had the 8800m gts i woulda got it...

 

I've tried v9, v10 and v12 - all with exactly the same result.

 

I just heard back from the SetFSB creator and sent him some diagnostic info he needed. Lets see how things go from here..

 

Without non-Extreme CPU's what are out possibilities--changing the FSB to overclock the CPU and RAM? Would we be able to OC the CPU without changing the RAM or are they synchronous?

 

Well, the bad news is, looks like we won't have any FSB overclocking luck on our systems:

It was worth a try at least.

 

He can't implement it? Oh..that sucks. Did ya send him the PDF?

 

Yes sir. I sent the PDF and the motherboard/chipset info, and then the diagnostic details he needed. With that in hand, he send what I posted. Quite a bummer really...

 

That is a bummer.. Dam Gway! Sorry guys, thought I found the golden egg. Or, at least the goose who laid it.

 

Anyone got a busted 78XX series laptop? TME can be worked around if you can figure out where the TME signal comes from (the clock generator samples input pin 4 at boot time, if the pin is a high or 1 logic overclocking is disabled, if its low or 0 its enabled) normally it would be easy as disconnecting that pin, but that pin also seems to function as the 3.3V pci output once its checked at boot, so we need to find out where the logical 1 is set from at boot time as far as I can see? Could be something that could be enabled/disabled in the bios even?

 

Yeah its pretty much the wall i ran into with the 68xx series. Our PLL's are locked in safe mode (or secure mode or what ever its called). We've had the PLL and specs for months now, but nothing can be done with it due to the lock the chip maker sets on it.

We're just SOLed over the whole situation

I'm hoping the Nehelam reboot gives us something better, but if not i might actually have to look else where for my next laptop because we're way to limited in what we can do (especially plain simple OCing)

 

Doesn't mean it won't fix other bugs, support Quad (yeah right), or have other goodies.

 

I wish it would fix this annoying built-in mic problem. .08, .09, .10 bioses allow user to install conexant drivers, but .12 doesn't.

 

Yeah it does. You have to manually install the Gateway Conexant audio drivers using the have disk method in device manager and select the BOTTOM audio device as two will appear in the list once you select the extracted driver directory.

 

any news of the 9c.17.00 bios? from a previous post here it looks to be on retail hardware already........

 

What he said. <hey, that's 10char. lol

(I wonder if they got rid of {10char})

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=347866

I told you so.

 

Your OP stated a data sheet on some older hardware. The newer bios and hopefull Quad support with it would have eventually led to new hardware offerings. I am sure though this is why you are not getting a timely answer about the bios as then the cat would be out of the bag.....

 

You certainly did.

 

Ok.. there's a buzz around the Wistron FTP site - Today they went into some new testing phases, it looks like they're about to finalize whatever this release is. Its a 78** - of course, it could be a refresh.. but, if they're up to v17 BIOS - Which, let me tell you by the way.. I did further research. It looks like they completed the PB BIOS which supports quad core. Fully supports it. Remember that PB Power GX or whatever it was called? Well, it looks as though they've taken the original BIOS code from the 7811.. transgressed into the PB system..then came back to the 7811 with that same BIOS. I've got v11 of the PB BIOS which, as I mentioned, has the production BIOS for that rig. Anyhow.. I'm rambling.

Long story short, expect something VERY soon from BestBuy on their 78** series. They didnt include the "Release to Factory" date.. but, they have gone from the Mi1 internal codename to the Godzilla production name for testing. Godzilla is their name for the FX series once any new testing is complete.

http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/Godzilla.zip

http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/Mi1.zip

I know I'm not really breaking any HUGE news here.. but I'm also uploading the PB BIOS with build file.. if you examine the build, you'll see quad-core is functional with this BIOS. I'll forewarn you, this will likely blowout your Vista Activation - which isn't really a big deal..but you will have to flip the machine over and write down that serial # to reactivate Vista. There is a 2.1% chance this would brick your machine, however the previous version of the BIOS didn't brick Jakamo or BMW's. Not saying this won't..but I'm saying it shouldn't.

This is the DOS version with the .bat for flashing.. Included are the chg files which open with Notepad.
http://ewrecked.darksmileysystems.com/G15-D11.rar


EDIT: This isnt the .17 BIOS - it's a predecessor. It's actually the PB BIOS which corelates to 9c.16.00 BIOS - Of course, being it's the Gateway brand they've had to swap build names again. So.. I offer you, the pre-9c.17.00 BIOS

 

So E-W you think this PB bios is comparable to what the .17 one will be?

 

Semi.. I believe it's the predecessor, based on build notes alone. I know it's quad-core capable.. I also know it was built off of the same PB system, and will likely work better on a 7805 than a 7811 - The PB has a 1GB 9800m GTS like the 7805 - this has the vbios for the 1GB in it.. so, it would only make sense it should work better with the 7805. So, comparable..yes

 

I'll wait for the proper bios..... hopefully soon............

 

hey E if it bricks I just need to reflash the old bios through dos right?

 

Well.. that's the problem. If it bricks.. you won't have that chance. BUT, you can use the Crysis recovery method to restore the computer. That's the only way to bring it back..needs an external floppy, possibly a USB thumb drive, and a working BIOS. Like I said, it shouldn't brick anything..but if you flash it, then let it do its thing and don't interupt it. Should reboot fine.. I'm not responsible for any damages, but in the event you randomly brick it I will make sure you get it fixed. Enough scare tactics, it will flash fine. No worries.

 

Wreck, think this will finally be the bios to let me put my Q in my 7811FX?

I could care less about OCing, I just want mah 12MB of Cache !

 

Actually..yeah, it should work. and worst case, you gotta flash back but, download it.. read the .chg file with notepad and you'll see why it should work

 

Thanks for your dedication E

 

no sweat man.. I enjoy it

 

yeah thanks for sticking around with us after you ditched the 7811!!!

 

Cant say that i blame him though, there would be no need for the 7811 after the OCZ purchase....lol

 

I actually miss my FX.. Seriously, I still stand by what I've always said.. Hands down, it is The Baddest Gaming Rig per dollar value. Period. For what you get, and what it costs.. It's a freaking deal of all deals. And, I made too many friends in the Gway forums to just ditch it Im no vagrant

 

Bingo!

Don't believe anyone is saying the FX's are the greatest gaming PCs ever,

but for their price (espcially if you watch for sales)

it is a tremendous "bang for the buck" deal.

 

2/22/2009 - Updated SetFSB : Version 2.1.97.0 - Added ICS9LPRS365BGLF(FS U9200 with the hardware remodeling).
Supported Acer TravelMate 2428AWXMi(CV125PAG).

Does it mean we can now use SetFSB with our 7811's?

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