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    New Notebook: Gateway 7510gx (A64 2.4GHz, X600 128MB, 1GB, 100GB, DVDRWDL)

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by Rami, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. Rami

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    Holy crap that's a nice machine. It's great to see AMD processors in some good gaming-capable laptops. I wish this had been available when I bought my 7422GX. :gateway:
     
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    exact SAME machine as my 7426GX with updated video. I have a 64mb 9600 Radeon Mobility. Even has the same case with very minor cosmetic changes. How much is it? I paid $1,399 for mine at BestBuy.
     
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    Seems like it lists for roughly the same MSRP as the 7426GX: $1549 USD. That's pretty good considering the substantial (probably almost 1000 3DMarks in 3DMark05) upgrade to the GPU.
     
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    i agree LowlyMarine, new vidcard boost is awesome.
     
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    Hopefully gateway will put the mobility x800 into the generation of laptops after the 7510gx. :p :)
     
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    Is there a price on that yet? I wish that was out earlier, I am a pretty serious gamer and I would love to have that x600. However, no matter what notebook you get, it's really odd to find that the slower HDD's actually make a pretty big difference when it comes to gaming even. My 7422gx has the stock 4200 RPM in it and it makes games lag every 10 or 15 seconds. Does anyone know anything about what kind of connection those HDD's have? Like ATA-100 or SATA or any ideas?
     
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    That's less than what I paid for my 7426GX at Best Buy. Rip off to me and probably lots of others who bought at BB :(

    BTW, is it "7510gX" or "7510gZ?"
     
  12. KyleD

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    Tell me about it!! That's less than I paid for the 7422gx I got at BestBuy. And it's not even the one that has the 3700+ processor and the 100 Gb Hdd!! Oh well, that's computer's for ya. :(

    I really gotta hand it to Gateway, they are puttin' out some amazing notebooks for the prices they offer. I sold my PC with an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card and bought the 7422gx and have no complaints with the minor downgrade. If anyone is looking to invest in a new notebook, I suggest the newest machine that Gateway is producing... ESPECIALLY GAMERS!
     
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    Hi, I also noticed that HSN is selling a Gateway 7110 GX for $1199. It has an AMD 3400, 80GB hard drive, 1Gb of memory,and ATI 200. 15.4 " screen
    Any feedback on this model?? I notice that neither the 7510 or the 7110 are on Gateways website.???
     
  15. AzN

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    The gpu is pretty bad, the x600 128 mb in the 7510 gx is LOT faster. Just use the extra $200 you'll get 20 gigs more, faster computer, and faster video card.
     
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    I just saw this laptop at Best Buy yesterday and the version they had there had 256MB of video memory on the ATI X600. Do you think this laptop will play Battlefield 2? If so, I am replacing my desktop with it.

    Thankz, Take Carez and Laterz,

    WarriorOfStorms
     
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    256MB? How did you check the amount? and was the extra 128MB dedicated or allocated in the system memory?
     
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    My guess is that these computers have hypermemory enabled by default, which dedicates an additional 128MB of system memory, slightly improving performance and giving the illusion of 256MB of VRAM.

    Yes, the new 7510GX will run Battlefield 2 extremely well at native resolution and roughly medium graphics.
     
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    We went into display properties of the video card and it said 256MB. I should have looked to see how much RAM windows saw. Maybe it is using system RAM. I'll check when I go to buy it this weekend.

    Thankz, Take Carez and Laterz,

    WarriorOfStorms
     
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    Thanks, I appreciate the info...
     
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    Looking forward to a review of this system! Looks to have really good value whatever you want to use it for.
     
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    Yeah in system my display driver says 256mb, dunno if it's taking up some of the systems ram cause i'm not really sure how to check that. I know a little about computers, not much, but this laptop is really sweet. I bought it last week for college this year and I must say I'm very impressed. It is the first laptop i've owned. I bought it for $1399 at BestBuy which kinda suprised me because I was looking at a Sager from PC Torque with basically the same setup for about $1496 without shipping. I'm not sure about Battlefield 2 but it play CS: Source with max res (1200 X 800 yeah it's a WXGA but it's high enough for me) and max settings. I haven't played HL2 on it yet cause i have to update it since I just got this thing. I'm sorry for such an informitive review but like I said I just got it and I'm not exatcly real computer savvy. Oh and even when I'm playing a game and the system is maxing out it isn't too hot to keep on your lap. Even with my limited knowledge of laptops and what makes a good one I'd still say this is a very nice machine and am expecting it will play HL2 and any other new(ish) game with relative ease. Again sorry for such a scattered and unorganized review but oh well just trying to promote/inform everyone

    *edit* if you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll try to answer them the best way I can

    *edit #2* I just ran 3DMark05 and got a score of 1547 which is kinda disappointing but it runs games fine
     
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    Hey, I work at a Best Buy and this laptop is sweet. I know my stuff with computers, but just wondering if you guys have an idea on this. We just got this laptop, our info and info from Gateway says it has 128mb X600, however, like some of you have said, if you run DXDIAG it says it has a 256mb graphics card....and if you look at system memory it still shows a full 1GB of RAM to use. So that would be it is a 256mb dedicated in a laptop. Which would be amazing. So maybe their hardware is wrong or just a misprint from Gateway? I contacted our corporate, and they are looking into to find an answer. Just figured I would post here too.....


    P.S. here is hoping it is a 256mb and gateway just misprinted!
     
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    Ok i opened up the details on my system inside of 3DMark05. It says
    Total Local Video Memory 128 MB
    Total Local Texture Memory 128 MB
    Total AGP Memory 256 MB

    So yeah, lets just say that it has a dedicated 256, it sounds better :gateway:
     
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    I wouldn't be dissapointed with a 3DMark05 like that. Most games should run fine depending on settings. If you go into the BIOS there should be an option to set shared memory for the GPU (if that is a feature it has). If you set it to 0 you should have 128MB dedicated only VRAM and it will in some cases give you a sligly higher performance depending on game / application used.
     
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    That is a pretty good score.. I saw a review at notebookforums of a Asus 71v that had a 6600 go in it and the stock 3dmark05 scores were like 1760.. so 200 off of a notebook with a 6600 is pretty sweet... :) BTW a little overclocking and the notebook can get a higher score.. don't know if you want to do that though...
     
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    Updating to the latest Omega Drivers will yield a substantial performance increase, as will a little bit of overclocking. You should be able to safely break 2000, especially if it's a 256MB card.
     
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    I don't see any reason to complain, that is sweet deal! Tons of features, a really fast CPU, and ATI X600 256MB + DVDRWDL, 100GB HD, 1GB RAM. I really like the looks of it too.
     
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    Yeah agreed... also if you close any programs that you don't need, that'll help the score as well
     
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    Ok nevermind, I'm very happy about my 3DMark05 scores. I'll check out the Omega Drivers and see if that helps. I just loaded and ran HL2 today with max settings and HL2 Deathmatch and it runs great. So far this has proven to be a great deal and an awesome laptop so if you're looking into buyin a new laptop definately consider this one.

    *edit* alright after installing the newest omega drivers my new 3DMark05 score is 1667 over a 100 point increase just by installing the omega drivers so i'm pretty happy
     
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    I use the Omega drivers in my desktop, and they provide a nice boost to my 3Dmark05 score. Im using a 256MB ATI 9800XT, and before the Omega drivers I got 2987, and with the omega drivers I get 3102. That is a very good 3D mark score Sampson, especially considering it is a laptop. I am impressed.
    What do you get in PCMark04? I think I am going to get a 7510GX, and I just want to see how it stacks up against my current laptop.
     
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    Ok, the 2 hours battery life kinda makes me not like this to much of the 3 semi-gaming laptops i'm looking at. But then again, they don't have amd 3700's in them, they have mobile processors. Anyway, how would the 64mb X700 stack up against this from the acer 42xx (not sure what the xx's are, but its the one with the turon 1.6)
    I know the 6800 will blow it away though.
     
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    I dled and ran the free version of PCMark04 and the results looked like this:

    System Test Suite
    Multithreaded Test 1 / File Compression 3.3 MB/s

    Multithreaded Test 1 / File Encryption 36.07 MB/s

    Multithreaded Test 2 / File Decompression 28.62 MB/s

    Multithreaded Test 2 / Image Processing 14.17 MPixels/s

    Multithreaded Test 3 / Virus Scanning 1955.1 MB/s

    Multithreaded Test 3 / Grammar Check 3.61 KB/s

    File Decryption 71.67 MB/s

    Audio Conversion 3040.57 KB/s

    Web Page Rendering 4.46 Pages/s

    WMV Video Compression Test failed

    DivX Video Compression 58.36 FPS

    Physics Calculation and 3D 195.56 FPS

    Graphics Memory - 64 Lines 1025.01 FPS

    *edit* it may not be the best score I could've gotten cause I have programs running in the background and maybe some other small factors but it probably wouldn't have been too much higher.
     
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    I bought this lappy from bestbuy---and reformatted right aways cause i obviuosly did not want everything it came with, i installed windows xp and now my problem is i cant get drivers for my hardware from anywhere, talked to bestbuy (they laughed at me) and gateway who says they dont have any info or cds for this model, so anyone of help who could direct me to good links for drivers i will be soooo happy, :)
     
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    This new notebook looks really nice: great CPU, quite capable GPU, good amount of RAM! I am seriously considering it as an option (in addition to Acer Ferrari 4000) to go with.

    Could anybody please comment on the reliability of Gateway notebooks: I have heard really horrible stories in the past...?
     
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    I love mine. So far it seems to be pretty reliable. Granted I've only had it a week but i have moved it around the house a lot and took it to one lan party so far and it seems to hold up quite well.
     
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    I'm looking at the Gateway 7510gx to purchase in the next week. Have one question, though, is the HDD speed slow on this model? I read somewhere that this is a 4200rpm drive. Can it be upgraded to 54 or 7200?

    I'm a software developer, not a gamer, so the video is not as critial to me but system speed is. The AMD64 is perfect for the programming tools I use (Softvelocity's Clarion for Windows... sort of VB like, only better in my opinion). Others using AMD64 systems swear by AMD over Intel for this environment. My need is to be portable, replace an aging... ok, dying Pentium-II with something to be my bread and butter for the next 3-4 years, and not paint myself into a corner with an new snazzy machine that isn't quite what I need. The hard-drive, is the only thing I've seen so far, that could be a problem... Well, I'll need to upgrade to XPpro, but otherwise, Memory, HDD size, Screen size, DVDR/CDRW and the media reader are all GREAT features.

    Thanks for your comments

    John
     
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    If you really want portability, you may want to look at a different notebook, my 7426GX is around 8 lbs. This isn't a problem for me, for I don't need to take it many places.
     
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    Ok, so I picked up the 7510gx today and I love it.

    One thing to keep in mind is that even if you are going to upgrade to xp pro...RUN THE SYSTEM RESTORE CD OR DVD CREATION SOFTWARE. This computer has too many drivers that xp pro won't recognize...and gateway offers no driver support online for this model as of yet if ever.

    Ok, now onto the fun stuff.

    Installed BF2 today and ran it on all high settings and it was wonderful. I'm usuing the omega drivers and only have the cpu and ram overclocked by 10mhz each...nothing really too straining on the x600 since it is pretty good at overclocking.

    I'll post some benchmarks in the days to come...but I'd like to end by saying that this maching is freaking sweet. I had the Compaq R4000 CTO and had it completely maxed out as far as components go. It didn't even touch BF2 unless everything was on the lowest settings...probably because of the crappy x200m in that piece. Also, it should have ran dual channel since it was running an amd 64 4000+ on the 939 socket...but hp/compaq are bastards and disabled it...which is dumb because a 4000+ without dual channel will run like a 3600+ on the 754 socket...and this gateway has a 3700+ so I'll see an increase in performance there as well :)
     
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    Wow that's really nice. Seams to me the X600 perform very well in new games, probably due to it's native DX9 support.
     
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    Oh, and one more thing...the x600 is a 256 dedicated card. It's not using the hypermemory thing because if it were system properties would show your ram minus 128. I know because thats how my old laptop did it (compaq r4000). It had an option of using the sideport and uma to get a total of 256 on that piece of crap x200m GPU. The x600 has 256 dedicated...I swear by it...which adds for some pretty sweet graphics i might add.
     
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    Ok, did the 3dmarks and here are the scores


    3dmark03 ------3501

    3dmark05------1668


    These are the free versions of the programs...so the settings are whatever it defaults as. Pretty dang good scores if you ask me

    These are done with the omega drivers and both the CPU and Ram on the x600 increased my 10mhz....nothing too spectacular in terms of overclocking there...but it's a laptop so I don't want to fry the card...or worse yet...my legs
    :eek:verheat: :gateway:
     
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    I'm with you. This laptop is freakin awesome. I need to make a correction, my 3DMark05 scores with Omega Drivers is like 1647 not 1667. Only 30points so not that big of a deal. Yeah I run all my games on the max settings with no lag or choppiness or anything it's awesome and I love the widescreen :gateway:
     
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    Ok, Here's another bench mark

    SuperPI

    PI to 1M took 40s

    PI to 2M took 1m 34s

    More to come later.
     
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    Hi, I've been lurking in the forums here for some time waiting for the right machine price/performancewise to come along, and it sounds like the 7510gx is it. (Up till now the Asus Z71v looked like the best bet but I don't want to drop that much money.)

    But one thing I've not been able to find out anywhere is what kind of battery life to expect from this bad boy. Elsewhere I've heard that the AMD 64's (even Mobile) are terrible for battery life. I want a machine that can play games at least half-way decently, but I don't want to be tethered all the time for web browsing etc.

    Do you or anyone know if I could expect to get at least two hours out of this machine? I don't mean playing BF2, but playing a DVD or browsing the web?
    I think I may pick one of these up today if so :)

    Thanks for any info!
     
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    I think if you set the 7510gx to run at 800MHz which also lowers voltage, heat and fan use, set the PowerPlay V properties (for the GPU) to max battery I don't see why it wouldn't reach 2 hours! I don't have this machine myself so I can not test it out. It would be interesting if someone that has this machine could set the properties as mentioned above to see what kind of result they would get! But I'm sure 2 hours would be no problems.
     
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    HELP WANTED, i NEED DRIVERS FOR 7510gx , if you are wondering if I made a restoration CD I did not, so please is there any way that can send me the drivers, wireless, video, network, audio or post it somewhere ?

    I am desperate and frustated I called those pricks from customer support and they told me if I formatted the computer they can not help and they need to charge me 20 to send me some restoration cds for the same OS that I formatted the home edition
     
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    Im still looking for drivers :( ive found some by going to individual sites of the hardware manufactures but yes if you get this run recovery disks right away, because there is no support from gateway, the two drivers i have not been able to find yet are the broadcom 802.11g card and audio drivers...abit irritating but im sure i will find something or hopefully get some support sooner or later; but yes a very nice laptop :)
     
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    Very nice laptop, but I need help, please let me know asap when you get the wireless and ethernet , I need those at least, if you can let me know how could you get the others I will appreciate it

    I can not understand why in the world gateway has not uploaded drivers for 7510GX when they are selling it, I think that they want to charge extra for the restoration cds, those pricks
     
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    sneaky

    I got them and not from gateway customer service / website,

    let me know if you still need them

    also, I hope that sooner they will upload the drivers on gateway web site, because I spoke with some technical people at there, customer service, I put my complains, etc and I hpe that it will help all of you, but if not, let me know and I can send them

    take care
     
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