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    Nzxt Cryo LX vs. Zalman ZM-NC2000

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by strife1013, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. Penrod

    Penrod Notebook Consultant

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    It tapers toward the front from 1 inch to 1/2 inch and that part is a little over 4 inches long. You might get a very small fan under there, but you would have to drill holes through the aluminum and the rubber non-slip pad.
     
  2. strife1013

    strife1013 Notebook Evangelist

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    So you still haven't gotten an AC adapter from Nzxt? What is the ETA?
     
  3. arstron

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    Thanks mine will be here today. I know the hard drive on my 6860 stays around 50*c when gaming, a small fan to pull some of that heat away would help a lot and I have several extra small fans to choose from here.

    btw, I already have a 12v power supply (just gotta wait and see which plug I will need) I am planning on using, however I think I am going to rewire the cooler as well so only the dc port powers the fans, if the usb hub is connected to the fans as well, I dont think 12volts back feeding threw the usb will be a good thing...

    One more question, on the bottom of my 6860, I installed some 1/2" tall dome shapped rubber feet that came with my Klipsch home theater speakers, would the extra space between the bottom of the laptop and the cooler hurt or help the cooling? Judging from my fire training with positive pressure ventilation fans, I know that the extra space will allow the air to reach a wider area, but it seems to me it would sacrifice some of the actual pressure. I guess in all reality, it will just depend on how well the intake holes on the bottom of the laptop will line up with the fans?
     
  4. Penrod

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    Haven't heard anything. No UPS or USPS tracking number like with NewEgg or Amazon. NZXT may have to order them from a local supplier. I would have been happy with the adapter specs, so I could go locally and buy one.
     
  5. strife1013

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    Ya I agree if I could get the local specs I would get one myself than wait 4 the adapter.
     
  6. strife1013

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    sounds all confusing to me I think ill wait for NZXT to mail me the adapter, which I hope they do it quickly!
     
  7. arstron

    arstron Notebook Guru

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    Well I got mine in about 4 hours ago, I tested it out playing left 4 dead with all the settings maxed with AA set at 16xq scaa and filtering at antiortopic 16x, I also had "Notebook Hardware Control" set to max performance (I usually have to leave this at max battery or it overheats and shuts down). Without the cooler, ive seen gpu and cpu temps around 72*c before, but I am not sure at what temp it is actually shutting off at. I ran L4D like this for an hour, here is what cpuid said the max temps was:
    tzs0 51*c (141*f)
    tzs1 64*c (147*f)

    Core#1 57*c (134*f)
    core#2 58*c (136*f)

    GPU 66*c (150*f)

    hard drive 44*c (111*f)

    This is with it stock. However I did just get finished taking it apart and putting it back together. One of the bags with the clear balls busted and I couldn't get all of the little clear balls out of the metal cage so I took it apart to get them out. I do really like the design they did, but it makes my idea a little more difficult. I think what I am going to do is add another dc jack to the back and either disconnect their wiring that goes to the fans (just remove one plug), then wire the fans directly to the dc jack. If the fans burn up, I will simply pickup some 12volt fans. I tried removing the rubber off of the fan blade to see what the voltage was, but I couldn't remove it and keep the sticker on the fan so I have no way of telling what the ratings are on the fans.

    As for the fan on the front, I am pretty sure I can get one there, but it might sit back to far to do any good. The cooler its self seems to be keeping it cooler somehow, but I think I am going to try it anyway, every little bit should help.

    Now if only I can come up with a way to attack a box and fan on the side to keep my power supply cool. ;)
     
  8. Penrod

    Penrod Notebook Consultant

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    I'm running a 9 volt 500mA ac adapter with the Titan G4 (the adjustable width with four fans). The fans are sounding a little stressed, but the disk is 4degress Centigrade cooler, the GPU 4 degrees cooler, CPU cores 2 degrees cooler, and ACPI 3 degrees cooler all at idle. That's compared with the Titan G4 powered out of the USB.

    I'll just leave the laptop on the Titan until the NZRT AC adapter gets here.
     
  9. Penrod

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    I want frosty cold laptop components, if that can be achieved.

    You might be interested in this thread too: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=371624
     
  10. Kazeari

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    Hehe, ya'll need a Cyro thread. =P
     
  11. Penrod

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    This is turning into a Cryo thread, isn't it. OK, for equal time, has anyone with a Zalman NC 2000 filled the extra three fan holes with.....well.....fans? Five fans on a Zal would be arctic to say the least.
     
  12. Capper5016

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    I just ripped apart the Zalman to see.....there is no real way to add fans to it. The two they have in there are in plastic housings, they are horizontal fans (meaning the fins are vertical, blowing out air at a 90 degreee angle). The plastic housing diverts the air flow toward the lower half of the cooler, where the holes are situated.

    The plastic housings take up the entire width of the cooler, so there is no space to add the additional fans. I am sure you can replace the fans with ones without housings, and add fans....but how cost effective would it be to buy the fans, rewire all the fans, remount them, and modify the cooler? In my opinion, you'd be better off selling the Zalman and buying something else (Cryo).
     
  13. arstron

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    I have read that thread already, it was informative.

    I honestly dont think you will get a frosty cold laptop with any laptop cooler. Maybe if you gutted your NZXT, mounted your laptop to it, then came up with a way to add a small liquid cooling system inside the nzxt. Not something I would feel like doing my personally. :cool:

    edit: on a side note, I just found out that the nzxt cooler does fit into my Targus bag, along with my laptop, charger, mouse, and all the other crap I keep in it. That gives it a big plus in my book, although it is pretty heavy with everything in it, it doesnt bother me that bad. Here is my Targus bag though, it is pretty big and spacious...

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...+bag&lp=15&type=product&cp=1&id=1099393166957
     
  14. Penrod

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    I have a more narrow Targus bag and the Cryo won't fit. But since the Titan G4 cooler has come to new life with the 9 volt AC adapter, I will take it with me when I travel. It is narrow and fits easily into the bag.

    Haven't received my AC adapter from NZXT yet.
     
  15. Penrod

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    The AC adapter from NZXT arrived by FedEX just now. Specs are 5v 2200mA. The fans only speed up ever so slightly. Barely perceptible. You have to put your ear close to it to hear the small difference. Hijole !!!

    Penrodito
     
  16. strife1013

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    so the Ac adapter is pretty much worthless?
     
  17. Penrod

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    Not working for me.
     
  18. Tehkun

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    Man... I thought it would really help...
     
  19. strife1013

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    thats blows, i get mine next week. :(
     
  20. Penrod

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    It blows, but not enough. Small holes throughout the fan housing inhibit some air flow. I guess to spread the air out underneath the laptop. then the tapering vents on the left side (under the non-skid rubber) really don't get the air to the GPU that well. The CPU and ACPI temps are low with the Cryo. Some modding is definitely in order.
     
  21. Tehkun

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    Lol, yeah I planned to mod if the adapter didnt do anything.
     
  22. DestruyaX

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    Radioshack has an AC adapter "octopus" plug arrangement at each store - you find the plug that fits your device, then mate it to one of their "universal" AC adapters, which I think come in all sorts of voltages.

    12v 500ma Example: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2191852
    3-12v selectable 1000ma Example: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2552560

    If you do try a 12V and it works, be safe and assume the USB hub is going to toast anything you plug into it (including possibly the USB header you plug into your system), so just don't even try it.

    Even so, I remember an NZXT guy saying he was going to *try* a 12V adapter with the Cryo but couldn't find one with the appropriate plug, so you really are experimenting at your own risk if you try to use a 12V AC adapter to get full speed out of the fans.
     
  23. strife1013

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    I meant the fans not running at full speed with the adapter, I have the cryo and like it but the little air that it blows in there just plugged into the computer isn't good which is why I was looking 4ward to getting the adapter because it should be able to run the cooler at full speed. I hooked it up to the girlfriends computer and she has a crappy old 4 year old notebook and it runs full powered on hers but not mine, how lame is that without the adapter which I won't get till later in the week.
     
  24. Penrod

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    Let me know how yours works with the adapter. Maybe the adapter they sent me is bad.
     
  25. strife1013

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    I will. Thanks for all your help having me buy it, I like the look a lot. Just want it 2 work.
     
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