Official ICD7 Thread

Look for guide taking apart P7811-FX. It should be there.

 

I have been a little slow on the uptake here I was watching the other thread for results.

In any event I have summarized results here so far and we are running a little higher averages than 300 tests from the other forum giveaways although this is a small sample size it seems to dovetail with the handful of samples from the other give aways.

Not sure why it is higher than the desktops averages.

Thanks to Capper for all his work and putting this together and to those taking the time to test, much appreciated

Andrew






I thought we would have a few more than this at this time as I sent out around 12 tubes

This is the comparison against 232 user tests from 8 forums> this forum will be added to the overall running tally which is 300 plus when I get around to an update.

 

I do not have results for a Gateway, but for a few other units. I have not replaced thermal pads on the NB or GPU memory modules, but may give it a try, if time allows. Over all, I am happy with the results.

 

I would like to test ICD7, but I cant buy it here in Mexico .

 

I have an extra tube. PM me your mailing address, and I will send it to you.

 

PM sent . Thanks Ill test it as soon as it arrives .

 

I will be sending you a tube monday

 

Got it covered.

 

There is a guide that get you through the simple stuff.

I spent about an hour or so trying to figure out how to get the Motherboard off so I could get to the GPU. The guide doesn't cover that part, and there were literally no more screws left to get to.

 

Actually I get 3c or bwtter under load and if the fan would stay on alot more than 3c in casual use. Before under idle/low usage my cpu fan stayed on low trying to get the CPU down to 40c as it hovered at 43c. Now with ICD the CPU gets to 40c and the fan cuts off cycling back up to 47c where it kicks back on.

All in all, ICD blows everything else out of the water...............

Edit above when I refer to the CPU I am referring to TZSx.................

 

Did you found the hidden screw underneath the laptop rubber feet? Its small and near CD bay. If you screw that out, then you should have no problem opening the laptop with small force. If you feel that you need more than light muscle flex, then look again- probably something is holding tha laptop together. Other screws are all viewable by the naked eye .

 

As in I need to take off the rubber foot?
Wow... how in the world did the gateway engineers thing of that one.

That must be it, because I was getting problems with the mother board not budging by the CD bay.

 

Thanks everybody mklym just sent me an ICD7 sample. Yay Ill test it as soon as it arrives!!.

 

My T9900 will be here soon, we'll see if I can lower temps and upgrade at the same time

Shortly after I'll test on a diff. notebook and post before/after (A single core p4 in a vaio that has lots of heat problems trying to keep up with today's software).

 

Exactly, actually its the rubber covering, not actual foot. It doesn't stick out like those rubber legs. You can find it on the right side of harddrive bays, when you turn your laptop upside down.

 

Would love to get my hands on this! Couldn't have come at a better time as I am getting my new laptop in 2 weeks!

 

Hey, I got my tube I'll run the tests this weekend hopefully.

Just a quick question: Is there a standard method people are using to determine load? I saw something somewhere... I think it was the undervolting thread where they had a specific program to do that?

 

Run 2 Orthos instanses(for Dual Core, for Quad use 4 different orthos instanses). Worked for me. And run them atleast 2 or 3 hours.

 

ooh i got mine today

will be testing on my new i7 setup, I am no longer a 6860fx owner

 

Here ya go...

My system is a p-7801u, upgraded CPU to T9600 (2.8 Ghz). No undervolting.

My thermal conductor setup with T9600 CPU before application of ICD7 consisted of...
CPU - OCZ Ultra 5+ Silver Thermal Compound, and...
Northbridge - Stock Thermal Pad.

Here are the temps...
Before applying ICD7, CPU max temp 56/56, TZO-0/1 max temp 74/74.

After applying ICD7, CPU max temp 58/58, TZO-0/1 max temp 73/73.

So... it seems I increased 2 degrees C on the CPU but lost 1 degree C on the chipset. I wish I could say the ICD was an improvement (especially since it was sent to me for free in order to test it out... really appreciate that!!!!), but it hasn't brought the improvements I was anticipating, based on the things I've been reading here.

I would like to say thanks VERY MUCH to IC Diamond for there faith and trust in all those they sent this product to for free in order to test it out.

 

I have done many tests with IC7 on various notebooks, and the only times I saw increases in temps were when I did not get a good even spread of the TIM. It is not like AS5 or any 'paste' type TIM. I am sure if you looked at the spread on your CPU/heatsink, you would see bare areas and/or air pockets. Good luck.

 

So I applied IC7 to my CPU, NB (No Shim), and GPU+vRAM today... Gonna report on temps tomorrow.

 

I harp on reliability on all the forums but mostly I am ignored on the subject. For those that focus only on temps take a look what can happen in just a month.

The more liquid type pastes have more of a tendency to pump out or bake out. Though they wet well and give good performance out of the gate, if stressed you can run into this problem

 

I have to say Andrew, I am impressed with ICD7.

My idle temps are down 4-5C on my CPU Cores, no difference on the NB, and no idle temp difference on the GPU.

However, where this paste really shines is under load... Under full load, my temps barely increase at all. Where Warhammer Online would bring my GPU to 80C, the temps are staying at 50C, a 3C increase over idle. As for my CPU and NB, they are staying at 30C and 40C no matter how hard I push the system.

I'll run some stress-tests to generate some heat, but in real world usage IC Diamond is amazing. I can tell it was designed for planes . Oh and, this paste is a big plus to the laptop community is that ICD7 replaced the need to use a copper shim on the NB. Not to mention my laptop's fans do not nearly spin up as much as they used to.

 

Typically, you shouldnt see any difference in temps at idle (or very little depending on the quality and application of the thermal compound). Its the heat transfer under stress where you will really see the difference in quality of a thermal compound.

As to the ICD7, I'm glad to see my results were validated. For those not seeing much of a difference, I'd really think you were not applying enough compound, or were not getting a good cover......its a pretty common issue. People have the misconception that ICD7 is applied like any other thermal compound and simply dont apply enough to allow it to do its job.

If you arent seeing at least a 2-3C drop in temperatures, I'd recommend reapplying the ICD7 with a heavier glob and reseating the heat sink.

 

I got some free ICD7 from MaximumPC, but I'll just post the results here too.

Stock Asus Thermal paste:
Core 2 Duo T5800:
Idle: 41 C Load: 59 C

Nvidia 9650m GT:
Idle: 52C Load: 64 C



ICD7:
Core 2 Duo T5800:
Idle: 39 C Load: 54 C

Nvidia 9650m GT:
Idle: 48C Load: 56 C

 

ill have my i7 setup results up next week sometime, might also apply it to my 4870

 

Hello Everyone,

Just finished the tests and I'm impressed by the performance of the ICD7 paste.
The temps dropped down at least 5 degree on the CPU, GPU and chipset on my
M6850 FX
Well, what can I say...Big thank you to IC Diamond and Capper. Again, thanks guys.

Here's the temperature on idle

.....................without ICD7......with ICD7
ACPI..............53C..................53C

CPU core#0.....31C..................30C
CPU core#1.....24C..................24C

GPU...............54C...................53C


And the temperatures under the load

.....................without ICD7......with ICD7
ACPI...............83-86C.............79-80C

CPU core#0..... 69-75C.............62-64C
CPU core#1......61-69C.............57-58C

GPU................65-69C.............59-62C



First I was planning to use the ICD7 on the GPU and chipset and stick to the
MX-2 on the CPU, but finally I decided to get the ICD7 compound on CPU as well.
I'm glad I did it, because the temps dropped on the cpu, too, in comparison with
the MX-2 paste.

I will test my machine for the next few days, as well as monitor the temperature
just to be sure everything is ok. So far so good.

Cheers...

 

results are looking awesome so far, am excited to see the results on the more powerful setup I have coming in.

 

yeah this paste is amazing waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than as5 and others. i tried about 5 different pastes and ICD7 just out performs all of those together.

 

I think my results will speak for themselves...This was done on my desktop. My 7811's results were even better!



(C4WDeX is my name on other forums.)

 

im intrested too

 

Icd7 Results

System in Sig

Stock
Before-Core i7 Idle-60c Max-80c
ICD7
After-Core i7 Idle-55c Max- 59-63c

That was a crazy change, very impressed so far!

My 4870 still idles relatively the same, stress test will be done soon though and we can see what will happen there, it is such a hot card I hope it helps.

 

everybody doing before/after tests should state what the "before" was.

as in stock TIM, or did you already upgrade to something else (like AS5) im seeing these huge changes and it makes me think most are upgrading from stock TIM, but what we really need to look for are the tests that are moving from one high end TIM to this to see if the performance has increased or is the same.

 

I have AS5 on my CPU right now, but stock pads on my chipset/GPU. I've already paid for an order of ICD7, so I haven't bothered to email the company. But I'll report my results here after I've applied it on my HP dv5z. If I have enough I may try it on my Asus M6Ne as well, even though that's less of a heat problem.

 

Sending an email now. Are those that live out of the USA like myself still eligible?

 

I live in Estonia, and i got one

 

I sent an email to Andrew yesterday, and I believe he's still giving free samples. Just make sure to include your forum name and address so he can look you up and verify that you won't disappear after getting the sample.

With that said, I'm still interested .

Those tests are very impressive narsnail! 30 degree drop on the CPU is crazy talk.

 

Wow a 20C drop! That is what I need on my GPU right now. Hitting the threshold at 110C with a new 9600M GT currently This could be the magic compound needed to lower those temps!

edit: thanks d.rivera08 I just sent a PM to ICDiamond who I believe is Andrew.

 

Paste may improve a lot, but i think there is much dust blocking your outlet fanhole. At least i had similar problem. Couldn't see the dust, untill i opened the laptop. And oh my, it was like a woolen carpet blocking the cooler fins from inside

 

Definitely going to look into IDC7 after looking at all of your results. My problem is that my brothersuse the laptop a lot, and often forget to close out games or leave something behind one of the vents. Plus, they don't like to use my "block-of-wood-under-the-laptop" mod to keep temps down. And I'm looking into a Core i7 build sometime this summer...

 

You might want to invest in a notebook cooler as well. I don't think I'd have the courage and trust to let my family avidly use my laptop. If I want it to explode, it better be by my hand .

I do believe Andrew(ICDiamond) is giving out samples... you just have to provide the before and after temps. You should be able to find his post a few pages back

 

The problem with getting a notebook cooler is that I don't know if they would use it. My block-of-wood-under-the-laptop mod helped with airflow, and thats sitting right next to the laptop where it shouldn't be. If I applied ICD7 they couldn't really do anything about that

I just e-mailed Andrew and I'll try my luck. If I don't get a testing sample then I'm still going to order some.

 

ok iam very intertested in trying this therrmal paste in a variety of applications like desktop pc laptop and xbox 360 i will post results from all with screen shots but probally not 360 no way to tell what kind of difference just fans wont run as long and hard

 

I also wanted to try lapping my CPU. I've heard very good things about it, and it seems easy enough to do. Best Buy's warranty would cover me if anything went wrong. It seems like a pretty straight-forward process though.

 

How about you just put the laptop under lock and key until they sumbit . Also have you underclocked your CPU as well?
Check these vids out:

<object width='480' height='385'><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sVXuZTuoEuE&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sVXuZTuoEuE&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='480' height='385'></embed></object>

<object width='480' height='385'><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5L1s1-nXj0o&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5L1s1-nXj0o&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='480' height='385'></embed></object>

 

That's the guide I watched, and it seems really straightforward. It would void my warranty, but if something ever happened I doubt Best Buy would care. I was going to purchase a T9800 but all my moneys going into my desktop build now.

I undervolted my CPU but I went back to stock after I stopped gaming and my brothers starting using it more. They find ways to screw up everything, so I need permenent solutions like ICD7 and lapping to keep it cool even when they don't want to prop up the back.

 

I really, really recommend against lapping a CPUs IHS (Integrated Heat Spreader)!!!!

I understand people want the best possible temps, but to be perfectly honest, as long as your CPU operates within the safe operating ranges there is no reason to go to this extreme....you void the warranty, you take the chance of screwing the CPU up permanently (and it does happen)....and for what? 5-7C in most cases?

Invest in some good thermal compound, invest in a good HSF, and if need be, look into exotic cooling (water, etc).

 

I lapped my old Q6600 (B3 revision) and it improved my temps around 7 C + i used IC7 also after lapping. before i had AS5. And together those 2 things helped me gaine -10C @ load. And that helped me to OC first release of Q6600 to 3.9GHz (superPI stable) with only air cooling . Which even new G0 releases had hard to reach. If you knew what you are doing and dont care about warranty, then go ahead and lap the CPU. But if you FU that CPU then you better have enough money to buy new one But i would say that getting the perfect lap, you have to put lot of effort into it. It isnt an hour or two job ... oh, and i forgot to say that i lapped my TRUE-120 Extreme cooler also So that helped me too with those temps

 

How about lapping a GPU core