One last time about the X9100

Looking to take the plunge and get a X9100, my question is which should I consider.........


1) the X9100 QHBQ EO stepping (these are still ES samples correct)
or
2) the X9100 SLB48 CO stepping (these are OEM samples correct)

 

I have an x9100 CO (I think), I wouldn't recommend getting one without throttle or cpu-genie to volt mod them. You also can't overclock them because the temp is pretty high to start with. But its a great upgrade.

 

I have a ES(E0) from shirlley on ebay which can be overclocked without changing volts and it is very low temp. Idle 23 celcius gaming 60 celcius without cooler.

 

you idle at 23C on SLFM 6.0x or 11.5x multiplier? Also what voltages please.

in response to the OP: go with the E0. it's a QS (not ES). the difference being that it's essentially the last revision of an ES CPU before it goes retail so all the (major) kinks would have been worked out of it.

 

My idle temps are like 44C im not sure which stepping i have. 11.5x266 = 3058mhz I use a coolermaster notebook cooler.

 

if you bought your X9100 from shirelyfu on ebay, chances are you opted for a QHQB which is a QS E0 X9100.

 

Yes it is a E0, and idle at 11.5x at 23 celcius. i am really impressed. Might make a thread to post my results.

 

whoa that's insane lol. Share your secret please!!!!!!!! A screenshot would be nice too

 

I have a C0 sample according to cpu-z and i still cant get throttle stop to overclock. when i right click i do not have the option to unlock fid/vid

ok im just stupid. i was right clicking on wrong area, i got it now. 3.4ghz here i come.

 

i got mine to 3.7GHz on 1.363GHz. Stable for long encoding/gaming sessions (no BSODs) but severe stress testing induced by the likes of Prime95 small FFTs or OCCT linpack will cause the X9100 to exceed its TJmax in less than 60seconds and cause auto-shutdown (at that OC).

with the cooling mods i'm currently doing, i'm gonna try for a crazy 3.9GHz lol.

 

These are after running 3dMark06 4 times for benchmarking. No secret just put it in and applied some ICD thermal compound. I am impressed too. Actually i lifted the back of the lappy only.

I am posting my bench and fps results on this thread. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gateway-emachines/505982-x9100-results-7815u.html

 

i'm surprised that you arent BSODing @ 3.6GHz on 1.250v!

 

you guys should post your results on hwbot.org its mostly a desktop overclockers forums, but the more the merrier.

 

I haven't stress tested it but I did run many benchs (win, 3DMArk06, 3DMark Vantage, GTA IV) and played some games without BSOD. I just had one with 3.7

 

That is my CPU at idle. Intel's temps sensors at idle are weird. My core1 temp never goes under 35c but core0 gets very low sometimes.

 

Maybe its in the "low power" sleep mode, or whatever Intel calls it.

 

nothing beats this:-

86C on Core1
-20C on Core 2....yeah i know?!

 

HAHA now that is crazy.

 

I think that the software trying to monitor the temp is just using an incorrect algorithum. Try a different application to monitor temps like OCCT or something, occt is an app i use for stability temps and its temps seem very realistic on my machine... or the temp sensor is just screwed ? lol

 

Thanks for the replies folks. I was looking at the ones from shirley, just could not remember which was the better choice and from what is being mentioned the QHBQ EO would be the better choice if I want to OC with Throttlestop.

 

Hey whats that desktop gadget called that monitors the temps and clocks? The bottom one.

 

That one shows it is from Everest Ultimate edition.

Don't blame software too much for incorrect temperatures. The sensors Intel uses are crap and were never designed for accurate temperature monitoring, especially at idle.

Some of the problems include slope error which means the sensor moves at a different rate than the actual temperature changes and some sensors get completely stuck. Intel says that any temperature less than 50C should not be depended on to be accurate.

Another problem is some programs use the wrong TJMax value. I think HWMonitor defaults to 100 for a lot of CPUs even though most of the 45nm Core 2 mobile CPUs like the X9100 are actually set to 105 by Intel.

Intel® Core?2 Extreme Processor X9100 (6M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) with SPEC Code(s) SLB48, SLGE7

You need to check that in the hwmonitorw.ini configuration file and adjust it if necessary.

 

Unclewebb, your thoughts on the 2 different X9100's I mentioned???????????

 

Everest allows for the TJMax offset to be user-defined, if necessary.

 

Most of the OEM X9100 CPUs on ebay are SLB48 which is the early C0 stepping. I'm not usually a fan of ES processors but the QHBQ seems to be very close to a retail E0 stepping. When overclocking, there are never any guarantees but the E0 stepping CPUs are usually better overclockers than the C0 steppings.

A retail X9100 E0 stepping and the QHBQ both have the same CPUID 0x1067A which is usually a good sign that they are almost identical. I also think a few NBR members have had good success with Shirley's CPUs.

 

Again thanks everyone for the help. I'll stick with the E0 QHBQ from Shirley's. Would like to play some with oc'ing just to learn.

Edit the deed is done, really never thought I would fork out 300 for a processor, but I (sob, sob, sob) did. I think that is the most I have emptied my wallet for one so far, usually I stay 1 or 2 steps behind the bleeding edge.

 

I just ordered my QHBQ and now eagerly await its arival to join the x9100 club. There are only rare occasions the system right now will peg the CPU but it will be great insurance for a good functioning laptop with my use for at least the next four or more years.

 

I was wondering who it was that bought one not to long after I did.

When prices drop more on ram I'll do the 8gb route. Prices are sitting in the 200 range now when not to long ago they were double/triple that. Lastly I'll do the SSD thing as prices keep dropping on them.

I'm looking at it like you do Tanware. "it will be great insurance for a good functioning laptop with my use for at least the next four or more years". Oddly my first laptop an old Toshiba P25, at approx 6yrs old still gets heavy use to this day. Upgraded it little by little.

 

I had to do it, I would have loved a Qx9300 at 3.0 GHz but life be as it is this will most likely be the highest we will ever see. I already now had the SSD and like you 8GB is about the last upgrade step.

I see the memory has come down quite a bit in price too. I can do the 200 or so just trying to justify it............

 

Well that was quick, ordered the processor on the 5th and it arrived today the 9th, and from China none the less. Hopefully I will put it in tonight and see how it is.

 

Wow, that was fast, 3.450 GHz........................

 

How are your temps Tan??

 

Sorry, Playing around a bit. Temps Idles so far..........

 

It sounds like you got a good one TANWare.

When using CPUID Hardware Monitor, you need to go into the hwmonitorw.ini file and make sure that it is using the correct TJMax value for your CPU which is 105. It should look like this:

CPU_0_TJMAX=105.0

That will help improve the accuracy of your reported core temperatures. These sensors aren't very accurate at idle but are pretty good at full load if you have TJMax set correctly.

Intel® Core?2 Extreme Processor X9100 (6M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) with SPEC Code(s) SLB48, SLGE7

Post some CPU-Z screen shots so we can see the voltage and MHz and drool a little.

 

Well 3.6 GHz @1.275 so I'm pretty happy, Thanks to You UW. Now 3DMark06 is 12,308 so I can not complain too loudly. Ran CoresMark at 10x for about 9 minutes 100% stable only 78C...............

At 1920x1200 3DMark06 gives 8853 3DMarks, not all too shabby either

Edit; Added attached Full Screen. Since I have 1920x1200 I did want to just paste it for those without................

 

Ordered X9100 for my P-7811FX as well, seems like the best way to get the most out of the machine...

 

So far all okay, temps looking good. Not much to post have not played much.

 

Good temps, of course good luck with it. All I wanted was 3.6 and now I'm there but some observations.

I can run the video card at 700/900/1750 with the 3.6 GHz at 1.275 all day. Once I go to 700/900/1800 I have to bump the CPU voltage up. To me this means I am reaching the limit of the power board. I would wonder too then if this is true of the Quad variations or if they get a different power board.

Since I really don't care about gaming I will run the video at stock speeds and 1.275 for my 3.6 core. I could do the 700/900/1750 but I'm afraid this is pushing it. If I ever need though it easy enough to bump'm up........

I thought it would be only a minimal difference between this and the P9600 but all I can say is WOW! M$ Expression Web, Canon DPP, Live Mail, Visual Studio and a host of other things are just so much better now. This CPU seems to make that SSD upgrade really shine too. It feels like way more of a bump than the P8400 to the P9600 it is replacing now................